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Marvin Bracy likely will never lace up football cleats for FSU. Looking like he's gonna go pro in track
2013 College Football Thread (Realer than Real Deal Holyfield -->S/O Craftsy)
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That's good news.
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#DAWGSONTOP
#DAVIDRICHTSABOTTOM
#DAVIDRICHTSABOTTOM
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I wanted to see that 10.05 100 speed on the field. Guess it's not set in stone yet but that's the latest word. Good think FSU landed Kermit Whitfield
Also, Cardo hope those #Dawgs are ready in 2015 or 2016
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Detric Dukes committed to Louisville. #Chollie
and Bryce Allen Williams committed to South carolina #OBC
and Bryce Allen Williams committed to South carolina #OBC
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I thought Bryce denied it
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??? #DawgDynastyAlso, Cardo hope those #Dawgs are ready in 2015 or 2016
Bryson denied he committed, but his mom isn't...
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nope it is confirmed
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what happened with Rushel shell at pitt? I know he had all that hype coming into pitt and people calling him a future 1st round pick. well he transfered to UCLA today
Bryan harper CB from arizona may also come to UCLA
Bryan harper CB from arizona may also come to UCLA
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My little cousin Tyrell Gilbert was one of your visitors for the spring game WildKY. Sounds like he loved it. Visited the Ville too.
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He thinks he can grab a starting spot with us now that Tevin McDonald left?
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receiver, right?
I bet he did love it, I know I did... what I remember of it anyway.
Lexington was turnt up on saturday... second largest spring game attendance in the country behind Nebraska.
we don't care about football, tho.
yes, I know we'll still suck...go **** yourself, Mike.
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and the SEC will be familiar with Za'Darius Smith.
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http://www.katu.com/sports/ducks/NC...bout-UO-football-investigation-203135931.html
Ducks, NCAA agree on many 'major' violations
By John Tierney, KATU.com
EUGENE, Ore. – New documents from the University of Oregon give the best view to date of the recruiting violations the football program faces from the NCAA.
The documents, which were provided on Monday to KATU after we filed a records request in September, are a draft of the “summary disposition” report. In the documents, the school and NCAA enforcement staff agree that the UO committed several "major" violations.
We received five drafts of the report and the reporting below is based on the most recent draft provided to us.
The summary disposition process was essentially the plea bargain process the school was going through with the NCAA after being accused of recruiting violations.
“There were underlying major violations coupled with failure to monitor violations involving the head coach (2009 through 2011) and the athletics department (2008-2011),” NCAA enforcement staff wrote in the report. “While the violations were not intentional in nature, coaches and administrators of a sports program at an NCAA member institution have an obligation to ensure that the activities being engaged in comply with NCAA legislation.”
The report also outlines two crucial points for the Ducks. First, NCAA enforcement staff said they had “no finding of lack of institutional control and no finding of unethical conduct.” That could prove critical when it comes time to dish out punishment.
Second, the report says the school could face penalties under the “repeat violator” clause of the NCAA rules. The UO last had a major infraction in 2004; since some of the alleged violations happened within five years of that date, the NCAA could impose stiffer penalties.
The report also focuses heavily on Will Lyles. Lyles ran a recruiting service and has widely been reported to be at the center of the football scandal.
“At the center of many of the violations is Will Lyles, a recruiting/scouting service provider who became a representative of the institution’s athletic interests in May 2008,” the summary disposition draft says. Lyles has been widely reported to be involved with the violations, but this report goes into detail about his involvement.
The report also shows the NCAA and Oregon agree this is a “major infractions case.”
“Due to the nature, scope and duration of the time over which the violations occurred, the violations were not isolated in nature,” the report says. “Further, while the violations were not intentional in nature, many are significant and should not be considered inadvertent.”
The report details seven key findings:
Finding 1 – Will Lyles had impermissible contact with prospective student athletes
The university and the NCAA agree that Lyles was working as an agent of the school in 2008-2010 when he had a series of “impermissible telephone and off-campus contacts” with prospective student athletes. The report lists contact with several students who ultimately did not play for the Ducks, but also has several redacted names, which are likely people who went on to become UO students.
“From the spring of 2008 onward, Lyles quickly evolved into an important part of the football program’s recruiting efforts in the state of Texas,” the report says. It says if a coach was recruiting in the Houston-area, it was common for them to reach out to Lyles.
It also details how Lyles established close ties to many Texas recruits.
“Through the relationships he cultivated, Lyles provided the football staff with valuable information that would not typically be included in the recruiting/scouting service’s written reports,” the report says.
The report says Lyles did not coerce any player to choose Oregon, although he did “provide a meaningful recruiting advantage” by providing background info on players and helping coordinate talks with players.
The school and NCAA said they agreed the phone calls were a “major violation” of NCAA rules, according to the report.
Finding 2 – The school paid for recruiting services that violated NCAA rules
The NCAA and school agree that from 2008-2011 the Ducks paid at least around $35,000 for three improper recruiting services, including $25,000 to Lyles’s company Complete Scouting Services.
“CSS (Lyles’s company) did not disseminate to the football program recruiting or scouting information at least four times per calendar year, as required by NCAA legislation,” the report says.
While they agree the violations happened, the school and the NCAA disagree about the severity of the charges, according to the report. The school argues the rules violated were obscure and that the violation should be considered “secondary.”
The NCAA argues that taken collectively all three instances show a pattern and should be considered “major violations.”
Finding 3 – Heavily redacted
This section of the report is heavily redacted, likely because it names players and coaches who were at one point part of the football program.
In one of the only non-redacted parts of this section, the UO and NCAA agree a violation happened and that it is a “major violation.”
Finding 4 – The school made 730 impermissible phone calls
The NCAA and UO agreed in the report that somebody made 730 impermissible phone calls between 2007 and early 2011. The names of whoever made those calls are blacked out in the version of the report we received.
“While the number of calls and the time period over which they occurred is significant, it should be noted that there was no direct intent to gain a recruiting advantage,” the report says.
Rather, the report says most of the 730 calls were “administrative” and did not directly involved recruiting.
“Nonetheless, the calls provided an indirect recruiting advantage in the form of freeing up the valuable resource of time for the coaching staff to focus its time and substantive recruiting endeavors,” the report says.
The calls were made to prospective players, their coaches or their high school coaches.
Finding 5 – Too many coaches were involved in recruiting
The school and NCAA agree that between 2009 and 2011 the Ducks had one too many coaches working on recruiting activities, according to the report.
The name of the extra coach has been redacted.
Finding 6 – Did the school promote an atmosphere of compliance?
This section is difficult to decipher because of redactions, but centers on an NCAA bylaw that says the head coach much promote an “atmosphere of compliance.”
In the report, the school and NCAA agree a violation happened, although the NCAA cautions that the report does not include a finding that [redacted] failed “to promote an atmosphere of compliance.” It does not state if that person is Chip Kelly.
Finding 7 – The school failed to properly monitor recruiting practices
According to the report, the university and NCAA both agreed that the UO failed to properly monitor the use of recruiting and scouting services, giving out school apparel and telephone calls between high school athletes and coaches.
The NCAA report outlines how UO staff would put information gathered from the scouting service into a database. They would then discard the original.
“It was simply to make the wealth of information received by the football offices more user-friendly,” the report says. “However, because there are specific NCAA bylaws relevant to information received from a recruiting/scouting service, there needed to be a mechanism for tracking the information received from these sources.”
Next steps
The school and NCAA tried to work out a plea deal with the summary disposition process, but it apparently fell through, according to a report from Yahoo Sports in December.
That means the findings discussed in this draft document will not necessarily be binding.
Instead, the school will argue its case to the NCAA Committee on Infractions. That hearing is expected to take place this spring.
Ducks, NCAA agree on many 'major' violations
By John Tierney, KATU.com
EUGENE, Ore. – New documents from the University of Oregon give the best view to date of the recruiting violations the football program faces from the NCAA.
The documents, which were provided on Monday to KATU after we filed a records request in September, are a draft of the “summary disposition” report. In the documents, the school and NCAA enforcement staff agree that the UO committed several "major" violations.
We received five drafts of the report and the reporting below is based on the most recent draft provided to us.
The summary disposition process was essentially the plea bargain process the school was going through with the NCAA after being accused of recruiting violations.
“There were underlying major violations coupled with failure to monitor violations involving the head coach (2009 through 2011) and the athletics department (2008-2011),” NCAA enforcement staff wrote in the report. “While the violations were not intentional in nature, coaches and administrators of a sports program at an NCAA member institution have an obligation to ensure that the activities being engaged in comply with NCAA legislation.”
The report also outlines two crucial points for the Ducks. First, NCAA enforcement staff said they had “no finding of lack of institutional control and no finding of unethical conduct.” That could prove critical when it comes time to dish out punishment.
Second, the report says the school could face penalties under the “repeat violator” clause of the NCAA rules. The UO last had a major infraction in 2004; since some of the alleged violations happened within five years of that date, the NCAA could impose stiffer penalties.
The report also focuses heavily on Will Lyles. Lyles ran a recruiting service and has widely been reported to be at the center of the football scandal.
“At the center of many of the violations is Will Lyles, a recruiting/scouting service provider who became a representative of the institution’s athletic interests in May 2008,” the summary disposition draft says. Lyles has been widely reported to be involved with the violations, but this report goes into detail about his involvement.
The report also shows the NCAA and Oregon agree this is a “major infractions case.”
“Due to the nature, scope and duration of the time over which the violations occurred, the violations were not isolated in nature,” the report says. “Further, while the violations were not intentional in nature, many are significant and should not be considered inadvertent.”
The report details seven key findings:
Finding 1 – Will Lyles had impermissible contact with prospective student athletes
The university and the NCAA agree that Lyles was working as an agent of the school in 2008-2010 when he had a series of “impermissible telephone and off-campus contacts” with prospective student athletes. The report lists contact with several students who ultimately did not play for the Ducks, but also has several redacted names, which are likely people who went on to become UO students.
“From the spring of 2008 onward, Lyles quickly evolved into an important part of the football program’s recruiting efforts in the state of Texas,” the report says. It says if a coach was recruiting in the Houston-area, it was common for them to reach out to Lyles.
It also details how Lyles established close ties to many Texas recruits.
“Through the relationships he cultivated, Lyles provided the football staff with valuable information that would not typically be included in the recruiting/scouting service’s written reports,” the report says.
The report says Lyles did not coerce any player to choose Oregon, although he did “provide a meaningful recruiting advantage” by providing background info on players and helping coordinate talks with players.
The school and NCAA said they agreed the phone calls were a “major violation” of NCAA rules, according to the report.
Finding 2 – The school paid for recruiting services that violated NCAA rules
The NCAA and school agree that from 2008-2011 the Ducks paid at least around $35,000 for three improper recruiting services, including $25,000 to Lyles’s company Complete Scouting Services.
“CSS (Lyles’s company) did not disseminate to the football program recruiting or scouting information at least four times per calendar year, as required by NCAA legislation,” the report says.
While they agree the violations happened, the school and the NCAA disagree about the severity of the charges, according to the report. The school argues the rules violated were obscure and that the violation should be considered “secondary.”
The NCAA argues that taken collectively all three instances show a pattern and should be considered “major violations.”
Finding 3 – Heavily redacted
This section of the report is heavily redacted, likely because it names players and coaches who were at one point part of the football program.
In one of the only non-redacted parts of this section, the UO and NCAA agree a violation happened and that it is a “major violation.”
Finding 4 – The school made 730 impermissible phone calls
The NCAA and UO agreed in the report that somebody made 730 impermissible phone calls between 2007 and early 2011. The names of whoever made those calls are blacked out in the version of the report we received.
“While the number of calls and the time period over which they occurred is significant, it should be noted that there was no direct intent to gain a recruiting advantage,” the report says.
Rather, the report says most of the 730 calls were “administrative” and did not directly involved recruiting.
“Nonetheless, the calls provided an indirect recruiting advantage in the form of freeing up the valuable resource of time for the coaching staff to focus its time and substantive recruiting endeavors,” the report says.
The calls were made to prospective players, their coaches or their high school coaches.
Finding 5 – Too many coaches were involved in recruiting
The school and NCAA agree that between 2009 and 2011 the Ducks had one too many coaches working on recruiting activities, according to the report.
The name of the extra coach has been redacted.
Finding 6 – Did the school promote an atmosphere of compliance?
This section is difficult to decipher because of redactions, but centers on an NCAA bylaw that says the head coach much promote an “atmosphere of compliance.”
In the report, the school and NCAA agree a violation happened, although the NCAA cautions that the report does not include a finding that [redacted] failed “to promote an atmosphere of compliance.” It does not state if that person is Chip Kelly.
Finding 7 – The school failed to properly monitor recruiting practices
According to the report, the university and NCAA both agreed that the UO failed to properly monitor the use of recruiting and scouting services, giving out school apparel and telephone calls between high school athletes and coaches.
The NCAA report outlines how UO staff would put information gathered from the scouting service into a database. They would then discard the original.
“It was simply to make the wealth of information received by the football offices more user-friendly,” the report says. “However, because there are specific NCAA bylaws relevant to information received from a recruiting/scouting service, there needed to be a mechanism for tracking the information received from these sources.”
Next steps
The school and NCAA tried to work out a plea deal with the summary disposition process, but it apparently fell through, according to a report from Yahoo Sports in December.
That means the findings discussed in this draft document will not necessarily be binding.
Instead, the school will argue its case to the NCAA Committee on Infractions. That hearing is expected to take place this spring.
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Stoops & Eliot w/ the SEC move to slow down recruiting him to FSU when they knew they were about to leave only to turn the heat back up on him once the move to UK came to light
Did he show out during the Spring Game?
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Clemson starting tight end Sam Cooper tore his ACL as well
4* RB Mikel Horton may be on the verge of committing to Kentucky. Set to announce next week, fresh off hsi visit to UK for their Spring Game
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Think FSU is trying to set something up w/ you #Dawgs
Home & Home or Kickoff Game or something like that
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He woulda had 10 sacks and probably injured all 3 QB's if he coulda hit them. he'll face double teams and get chipped all the time, tho... not hard to miss (he's the guy who looks like an SEC football player.)
mr marcus
Banned
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fiendin for august
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^ Read that your man Tracy Howard been getting torched all spring
mr marcus
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Miami will prob stay in shootouts this season.....avg game totals will be 60+
