2014-15 Lakers Season Thread (21-61) KAT

This summer, if the chance comes, Love, Rondo, Neither, or Both?

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Let's all just become Kings fans and enter rck's thread.

I'll inquire about the application process and what requirements they ask for from their fans, besides being content with losing of course.
 
Let's all just become Kings fans and enter rck's thread.

I'll inquire about the application process and what requirements they ask for from their fans, besides being content with losing of course.
can he/they  find me a black jason williams champion jersey in sz 48 at a reasonable cost
 
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Let's all just become Kings fans and enter rck's thread.


I'll inquire about the application process and what requirements they ask for from their fans, besides being content with losing of course.
can he/they  find me a black jason williams champion jersey in sz 48 at a reasonable cost

Probably if you overqualify as a Kings fan candidate. You'd need to really knock their socks off to get jersey buying benefits.

Characteristics such as enjoying a losing culture, cow tipping experience, and embracing dark and gloomy weather all year round would put you ahead of other candidates.
 
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Going after Josh Smith, getting him and then holding onto him would be GREAT business.

Yes, his game is the most frustrating of frustrating. But it's also money driven. At $13.5mil, it seems much more horrible than what it would seem at $4mil, and a couple of years after $6mil. The expectations at $6mil from a player is far different than $13.5mil. It's why Carlos Boozer at $3mil is a god damn steal, and at $13.6mil, he's a black ice hole of just WELP and frustration. Joe Johnson is a prime example of this. He's pretty good still, but at $23mil, he's awful.

What Josh Smith allows us to do....

This season:
We'd have to use the Nash injury exception, so that takes him off the board. But it allows us to be much much more aggressive on the trade front. We could look at trying to get emerging players, or even go big and try to get a star if one enters the market. We have Hill, Lin, the Rockets 1st, our 1st, Clippers 2nd, and even Ryan Kelly who could be a nice bench player in the right system is capable of being moved. That's $18-19mil in pieces.

Maybe that gets us a Lance Stephenson or Harrison Barnes. Or somebody cheap that could make a huge jump in skill level. Who knows. Or maybe it brings us only picks.

Once Hill is gone, we're not any better because we lost a big and replaced him with a big.

The next season:
Kobe / Randle - definite starters
Swaggy / Josh Smith / Ed Davis - bench.
Clarkson / Sacre - 5th guard and 5th big

And maybe it's a Top 5, and 2 later 1sts that we add.
Or maybe a late 1st and player on the rise in the starting lineup.
Or a Top 5 and a rising player
Or a Star and a 2nd Rounder

Any one of those scenarios, and we'd still have cap space to make a run at somebody. Not a Marc Gasol, but the 2nd or 3rd tier guys. And in 2016 have a lot of holes filled, and a bunch of cap space.

It's a pretty safe risk, that allows Mitch to be aggressive. Also Josh Smith would not impact Julius Randle. You play Randle 25-30minutes a game in his rookie season. Keeping Josh Smith at 30mpg, you can get between 60-80% of his minutes at the 4, his natural position, and maybe try to sneak a few minutes at the 5 in a small ball fast pace lineup.
 
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Boozer a steal as in stealing money correct?He sucks no matter what the figure.
 
Boozer a steal as in stealing money correct?He sucks no matter what the figure.

12.8 / 7.3 16.56 PER on $3.2mil is immense value.


The problem is he was starting, when he shouldn't have been. And he's not a guy that should be much of an option on a team. We did both things wrong.


But for what we're paying him..... He's been great value for production.
 
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"Production" on a **** team means nothing to me. Just like Lin who should also be giving his money back as well.
 
Nah you're not going to win.

Okay...


Carlos Boozer 12.8 / 7.3 50.5FG% 16.56 PER, which is above league average. He's getting paid basically the mini-mid-level. The 47th highest paid Power Forward.


He's 106th in Player Efficiency. 201st Highest Paid Player. His 51.6 Value Added is 99th in the NBA.


So if we were doing a hypothetical re-alignment of the NBA for each team based on PER, each team gets a top 30 PER player. Then go back around for a 31-60 player as your 2nd guy, 61-90 as your 3rd guy. Carlos Boozer would be a 4th option just based on Player Efficiency. He's getting paid $3.2mil. Yes there's guys getting paid less that are higher efficiency. But doesn't discount that Boozer at $3.2mil is great value.


Or another scenario. Say Carlos Boozer was a Free Agent instead of amnestied, and a team desperately needed a backup PF. Sign Boozer for the mini-MLE and he gets 12.8 / 7.3 on 16.56 PER.... That's not good?


You think he wouldn't get half of this on a good team? Where guys could actually get him the ball? Where they play a coherent offense? That won't make things even easier, when he's got something left offensively?


At $13.2mil, yes horrible contract... But $3.2? That's VALUE.
 
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