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I know the Lakers were looking at Randle, but I'm not sure how much they wanted him. Wasn't Smart high up on the list. Celtics did them dirty by taking him right before them.
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I think I'm the only laker fan on the planet happier about the Clarkson steal over drafting Randle... I'm in tears over here fellas. The joy is real
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whats good with clarkson?
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whats good with clarkson?
A big PG, nice first step, can get into the lane and prefers contact at the rim (will help us get to the FT line). Good P&R scorer too
Scores well in transition... Very fluid end to end game
Negatives... Inconsistent jumper, plays a bit out of control, over dribbles. (Sounds a lot like Westbrook)...
He's def not D Moe... I felt D Moe tried to play waaaayy to flashy for his skillset at times. This kid just gets the job done
Add Patric in the mix and u got 3 of some of the top players from the SEC on your roster, two basically for nothing.
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Notes from Mitch:
- Mitch Kupchak said that the Lakers won't have a coach by the start of FA Monday, but will sometime "probably in the beginning of July"
- Kupchak reiterated that Randle does not require surgery at the present time, but if they opt for a procedure, he isn't fretting it
- on Pau Gasol being a priority (vs. other free agents): “It’s going to depend.”
- Clarkson cost $1.8mil in cash considerations.
- Not naming names, but, "If any of those players want to make a move, we're prepared"
- "As long as Kobe’s on this team we have to believe that we can contend for a championship.”
- Mitch Kupchak said that the Lakers won't have a coach by the start of FA Monday, but will sometime "probably in the beginning of July"
- Kupchak reiterated that Randle does not require surgery at the present time, but if they opt for a procedure, he isn't fretting it
- on Pau Gasol being a priority (vs. other free agents): “It’s going to depend.”
- Clarkson cost $1.8mil in cash considerations.
- Not naming names, but, "If any of those players want to make a move, we're prepared"
- "As long as Kobe’s on this team we have to believe that we can contend for a championship.”
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#teammitch
#ivegotfaith
#ratherstankthantank
#ivegotfaith
#ratherstankthantank
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I'm wit it
Saver, you really have no idea how off base you are, do you?
Like, totally oblivious, aren't you?
Why did we get 7? Tell me.
Because pro tankers were pro tankers before the year even began. The actual team didn't grasp it til January, and then when they were 1 game outta the 3rd spot, they started stealing games for no reason.
Had they got 3rd, Cavs jump us, we get the 4th pick. Could have chosen whoever from Exum, Smart, Randle, Vonleh, Gordon.
Did they tank well enough? No, they did not.
They finished at 6, bumped to 7.
Guess what Saver, by YOUR dumb *** logic, we try to steal more wins, and end up at 10, or 11, or 13-14 with Minnesota/Suns.
Still no playoffs, still no title, but who would you rather draft, Randle, or LaVine/whoever the Suns grabbed? (I already forgot
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We all had diff ideas. Some wanted Randle. Some, Gordon. I wanted Vonleh. Some, Smart. Bottom line, any of these 4 become our best player, tonight.
And they cost 2 million a year. 21 million less than our former best player.
And as for tanking next year, we have no choice. If we don't, we give our pick to the Suns. Do you comprehend that? Because that is not a helpful option.
Retaining a top 5 pick, does in fact help our franchise, and not the Suns franchise.
So stop complaining about the ones who look ahead and see what's what versus the ones suddenly cheering for Jordan Clarkson, knowing damn well they never even heard that name til he became a Laker and now they love him.
You can be anti tank, that's your right. You'll just be wrong is all.
Like, totally oblivious, aren't you?
Why did we get 7? Tell me.
Because pro tankers were pro tankers before the year even began. The actual team didn't grasp it til January, and then when they were 1 game outta the 3rd spot, they started stealing games for no reason.
Had they got 3rd, Cavs jump us, we get the 4th pick. Could have chosen whoever from Exum, Smart, Randle, Vonleh, Gordon.
Did they tank well enough? No, they did not.
They finished at 6, bumped to 7.
Guess what Saver, by YOUR dumb *** logic, we try to steal more wins, and end up at 10, or 11, or 13-14 with Minnesota/Suns.
Still no playoffs, still no title, but who would you rather draft, Randle, or LaVine/whoever the Suns grabbed? (I already forgot
)We all had diff ideas. Some wanted Randle. Some, Gordon. I wanted Vonleh. Some, Smart. Bottom line, any of these 4 become our best player, tonight.
And they cost 2 million a year. 21 million less than our former best player.
And as for tanking next year, we have no choice. If we don't, we give our pick to the Suns. Do you comprehend that? Because that is not a helpful option.
Retaining a top 5 pick, does in fact help our franchise, and not the Suns franchise.
So stop complaining about the ones who look ahead and see what's what versus the ones suddenly cheering for Jordan Clarkson, knowing damn well they never even heard that name til he became a Laker and now they love him.
You can be anti tank, that's your right. You'll just be wrong is all.
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So, so glad the Lakers got Randle man.
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im all for tanking next year but I don't think we're going to be bad enough for top 5.
we really have to be worse than we were this year...
we really have to be worse than we were this year...
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Oh look it's Mr whoever disagrees with me is dumb
That's what we resort to in a team thread calling people who firmly disagree dumb ?
For some odd reason you have majority of these dudes in here thinking you're some type of authority on laker basketball but you're nothing but a fan wishing and talking **** just like the rest of us so save your rants for someone who thinks you're somebody important because I don't.
They didnt tank well enough , sound ridiculous
we could've lost 10 more games still doesn't mean the ping ping balls bounce in our favor what part of that don't you understand....tanking guarantees nothing....nothing.
Ole I'm smarter than Mitch type of dude meanwhile you on a sectional sofa drinking Mountain Dew looking thru boxes of BS notes you keep , get off that high horse sir you've done nothing that allows you to be so arrogant and judgmental.
BTW that overpaid player is still our best player , I know u mad he took the bread too bad get over it.
That's what we resort to in a team thread calling people who firmly disagree dumb ?
For some odd reason you have majority of these dudes in here thinking you're some type of authority on laker basketball but you're nothing but a fan wishing and talking **** just like the rest of us so save your rants for someone who thinks you're somebody important because I don't.
They didnt tank well enough , sound ridiculous
we could've lost 10 more games still doesn't mean the ping ping balls bounce in our favor what part of that don't you understand....tanking guarantees nothing....nothing. Ole I'm smarter than Mitch type of dude meanwhile you on a sectional sofa drinking Mountain Dew looking thru boxes of BS notes you keep
, get off that high horse sir you've done nothing that allows you to be so arrogant and judgmental. BTW that overpaid player is still our best player , I know u mad he took the bread too bad get over it.
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we could have lost 3 more games and been able to pick smart if thats who we wanted, and that has nothing to do with luck or ping pong ballsThey didnt tank well enough , sound ridiculouswe could've lost 10 more games still doesn't mean the ping ping balls bounce in our favor what part of that don't you understand....tanking guarantees nothing....nothing.
the more games you lose the better pick you get, its not luck its how things work
next year its tank to get a top 5 pick (lottery is luck being a bottom 5 team is not luck), and we get a top 5 pick
get a record between the 6-30 worst teams and we get nothing
so yes, if (we wont) we were to talk to a bottom 5 record we would have a high chance of getting something. if not we get nothing
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we could have lost 3 more games and been able to pick smart if thats who we wanted, and that has nothing to do with luck or ping pong ballsThey didnt tank well enough , sound ridiculous
the more games you lose the better pick you get, its not luck its how things work
Not true each team gets more ping pong balls the more games they lose but they still have to get picked, see how the Cavs got the first pick but they didnt have the worst record ?
You could have plenty ping pong balls but it might not be your luck and u end up with the tenth pick, that's the way the tank crumbles sometimes.
See what I'm saying CP you're not even educating your pro tank members, they don't even know how the system works
I didn't call you dumb, and I'm not ranting, I'm talkin to you, trying to show you your error in thought process.
You just said 10 more losses wouldn't matter..........dude, what?
Look, look at this example. Your original complaint was some pro tanker(s) wanted Smart. Where he go? 6. To who? Boston.
How we do this year, vs Boston? We beat them, twice. We were losing both times, and came back to beat them. Look how that affected our chance at Smart. We got 7, they got 6. How do you not see that?
Did you find it interesting that Simmons, huge Celtic homer, was all excited and wanted Randle? Then he was bummed Randle went to LA. But that doesn't mean he won't like Smart in time.
Tanking guarantees lowest possible pick we can get. The Bucks tanked, they didn't get 1, they got 2. Still a great pick, no?
6ers tanked to 2nd. They got 3rd.
So on and so on. It's not like 8 teams can get ahead of you, its one, maybe. On a blind miracle, two teams can jump. (Very rare).
The point is, if we aren't winning anyways, why try to WORSEN your odds? Why TRY to get the 10th pick, over trying to get the 4th, but falling to 5th? It's still better odds at talent you want falling to you at 5, than 10. Why aren't you getting that?
You just said 10 more losses wouldn't matter..........dude, what?
Look, look at this example. Your original complaint was some pro tanker(s) wanted Smart. Where he go? 6. To who? Boston.
How we do this year, vs Boston? We beat them, twice. We were losing both times, and came back to beat them. Look how that affected our chance at Smart. We got 7, they got 6. How do you not see that?
Did you find it interesting that Simmons, huge Celtic homer, was all excited and wanted Randle? Then he was bummed Randle went to LA. But that doesn't mean he won't like Smart in time.
Tanking guarantees lowest possible pick we can get. The Bucks tanked, they didn't get 1, they got 2. Still a great pick, no?
6ers tanked to 2nd. They got 3rd.
So on and so on. It's not like 8 teams can get ahead of you, its one, maybe. On a blind miracle, two teams can jump. (Very rare).
The point is, if we aren't winning anyways, why try to WORSEN your odds? Why TRY to get the 10th pick, over trying to get the 4th, but falling to 5th? It's still better odds at talent you want falling to you at 5, than 10. Why aren't you getting that?
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how the hell do you end up with the 10th pick when you have a top 5 worst record in the league?Not true each team gets more ping pong balls the more games they lose but they still have to get picked, see how the Cavs got the first pick but they didnt have the worst record ?we could have lost 3 more games and been able to pick smart if thats who we wanted, and that has nothing to do with luck or ping pong ballsThey didnt tank well enough , sound ridiculouswe could've lost 10 more games still doesn't mean the ping ping balls bounce in our favor what part of that don't you understand....tanking guarantees nothing....nothing.
the more games you lose the better pick you get, its not luck its how things work
You could have plenty ping pong balls but it might not be your luck and u end up with the tenth pick, that's the way the tank crumbles sometimes.
See what I'm saying CP you're not even educating your pro tank members, they don't even know how the system works
orlando and utah had a very high chance of getting a lottery pick but they were unlucky, they still got to pick 4th and 5th because of their records thats better than us who didnt tank as well so we were left with the 7th pick
literally every team that tanked better than us had a better pick than we did, so ignoring ping pong balls and luck it is not hard to see why if we did have a worse record (tanked better) we would have had a better pick today
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5 teams had worse records than the Lakers. All 5 of them got higher or better picks than the Lakers. 100%.
8 of the lottery teams had better records than the Lakers. One of them got a higher or better pick than the Lakers. 12.5%.
8 of the lottery teams had better records than the Lakers. One of them got a higher or better pick than the Lakers. 12.5%.
Saver, you are wrong dude.
How do you drop all the way to 10th, tanking??????
Are you just exaggerating? If so, let me in on it, cuz otherwise I feel like you just completely don't get it.
We "tanked" this year, but not good enough. We finished at 6. We dropped 1 spot dude.
Had we tanked better, we could have jumped Boston and Utah, finished 4th, and dropped to 5.
You can't fall from 3rd-4th to 10th man, what are you talking about? Ping pong balls absolutely can not drop you that damn far.
How do you drop all the way to 10th, tanking??????
Are you just exaggerating? If so, let me in on it, cuz otherwise I feel like you just completely don't get it.
We "tanked" this year, but not good enough. We finished at 6. We dropped 1 spot dude.
Had we tanked better, we could have jumped Boston and Utah, finished 4th, and dropped to 5.
You can't fall from 3rd-4th to 10th man, what are you talking about? Ping pong balls absolutely can not drop you that damn far.
Bingo.
Saver, please read this. I think you have a different idea how the lottery works man.
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Can I ask are you guys interested in a high pick for talent, because it's a cheap, tradeable asset, or some combination of all those factors? And yes that is a loaded question
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just figured out what you're saying (sorry, i forgot how to read
obviously those are all positive factors when taking someone in the draft, not just a high pick but any pick
but if i were to rank them it would go 1. talent 2. cheap 3. tradeable asset
ideally you want your pick to be so good that you dont even consider trading him
the idea of the nba draft is that you have a shot at your next franchise player so talent is going to always be the most important thing, being low cost is just an added benefit
and of course theres the youth factor, this kid (if he turns out good) will give you at least a decade of solid production which cant be said about getting a 28 year old in free agency
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Because it's a cheap asset (that also allows space for other contracts to be signed - an important factor in our situation) AND it can possibly grow into a talented player.
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I didn't call you dumb, and I'm not ranting, I'm talkin to you, trying to show you your error in thought process.
You just said 10 more losses wouldn't matter..........dude, what?
Look, look at this example. Your original complaint was some pro tanker(s) wanted Smart. Where he go? 6. To who? Boston.
How we do this year, vs Boston? We beat them, twice. We were losing both times, and came back to beat them. Look how that affected our chance at Smart. We got 7, they got 6. How do you not see that?
Did you find it interesting that Simmons, huge Celtic homer, was all excited and wanted Randle? Then he was bummed Randle went to LA. But that doesn't mean he won't like Smart in time.
Tanking guarantees lowest possible pick we can get. The Bucks tanked, they didn't get 1, they got 2. Still a great pick, no?
6ers tanked to 2nd. They got 3rd.
So on and so on. It's not like 8 teams can get ahead of you, its one, maybe. On a blind miracle, two teams can jump. (Very rare).
The point is, if we aren't winning anyways, why try to WORSEN your odds? Why TRY to get the 10th pick, over trying to get the 4th, but falling to 5th? It's still better odds at talent you want falling to you at 5, than 10. Why aren't you getting that?
Hindsight is 20/20 isn't it ?
Losing more games guarantees nothing if the ping pong balls don't come up luck has a helluva lot to do with who gets the top pick.
We could put 5 more ping pong balls in there but will that guarantee a higher pick ? No it doesn't why aren't u getting that
, we could've even dropped a few picks do you understand that ? Again the Cavs were in the playoff hunt at the end of the season and they still got the top pick but I'm sure you'll never ever mention that because it goes against that tank message you've been preaching all year
. Oh yeah you ain't call me dumb, you just said I had dumb *** logic
another guy splitting hairs I see See, Kawhi Leonard at 1.9 million winning Finals MVP, but like 8th biggest contract.
Cheap, high young talent gives room under the cap for more assets.
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