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[BIG LEEMELONE]

Conference strength difference

How does that matter? You can't change the conference you play in so it's irrelevant. At the end of the day do you think the Nuggets feel better because they didn't make the playoffs in the tougher conference? How does that make you a winner in a trade?

Trade really hasn't benefited either team

 

[macncheeese]

How does that matter? You can't change the conference you play in so it's irrelevant. At the end of the day do you think the Nuggets feel better because they didn't make the playoffs in the tougher conference?

Right.

People really hang on this East vs West conference thing a little too much. "West is for the pros, East is like a JV conference". These coaches/players/owners/gms dont care about that. They care only about winning games and like my guy said--Denver & Knicks are about equal, regardless of what conference theyre in

 

[atcatc23]

As a whole, Denver has had more success since the Melo trade in the tougher conference and that matters. If you are playing the teams in the West, I think you can't argue that there are more good teams there.

 

[NickFolarin]

 

Conference strength difference

How does that matter? You can't change the conference you play in so it's irrelevant. At the end of the day do you think the Nuggets feel better because they didn't make the playoffs in the tougher conference? How does that make you a winner in a trade?

Yes, because they got equal value if not more value. Melo could have walked for nothing and the Nuggets not only strengthened the depth of their roster, but you are forgetting the made the playoffs the previous two season before and pushed the series 4-3 & 4-2. If that's not winning a trade after trading you star player, I don't know what is.

 

[lawdog1]

Denver 36-46
New York 37-45

Don't really see how you can say one team got over on the other in that trade

That was last year when Denver wasn't healthy all year. Gallo didn't play at all and he was one of the key guys they got in the Melo trade. The year before that they were 3rd in the West. (Of course, the Knicks had a very good year that year too). Assuming everyone is healthy, I think Denver is a better team than the Knicks. So, I'd say that Denver overall got the better of the trade. But its not by a wide margin.

 

[awwsome]

Yes, because they got equal value if not more value. Melo could have walked for nothing and the Nuggets not only strengthened the depth of their roster, but you are forgetting the made the playoffs the previous two season before and pushed the series 4-3 & 4-2. If that's not winning a trade after trading you star player, I don't know what is.

Not to mention pretty much all of their rotation players were injured last year, Gallo and Javale basically missed the whole season.

 

[do work son]

The trade left the nuggets with more pieces and flexibility. They turned that into a trade for Andre Iguodola and won 57 games. No, they didn't win a championship or even a playoff series, but relative to the Knicks which is what this is all about, I think they ended up getting the better end of the deal.

 

[awwsome]

Damn it lawdog1 .

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

You have to grade a trade by the results. All the arguments you guys are making for Denver you can make for the Knicks (injuries, making the playoffs before etc). The teams have been almost dead even since the trade

 

[awwsome]

You have to grade a trade by the results. All the arguments you guys are making for Denver you can make for the Knicks (injuries, making the playoffs before etc). The teams have been almost dead even since the trade

sure.

 

[shoeking2101]

You have to grade a trade by the results. All the arguments you guys are making for Denver you can make for the Knicks (injuries, making the playoffs before etc). The teams have been almost dead even since the trade

Pretty much. Knicks even got to the 2nd round while Denver can't make that claim.

 

[NickFolarin]

You have to grade a trade by the results. All the arguments you guys are making for Denver you can make for the Knicks (injuries, making the playoffs before etc). The teams have been almost dead even since the trade

If you can trade, arguably a Top 5 player, and you don't have a setback, in terms of wins or playoff position.... The Nuggets clearly won

 

[shoeking2101]

If you can trade, arguably a Top 5 player, and you don't have a setback, in terms of wins or playoff position.... The Nuggets clearly won

No It's about a draw. If anything, the Knicks have been better because of what they did 2 years ago. Both teams were injury riddled last year.

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

sure.

Bruh said losing in the playoffs 4-3 and 4-2 is why denver won that trade but you're laughing at me. Jerk

 

[awwsome]

If you can trade, arguably a Top 5 player, and you don't have a setback, in terms of wins or playoff position.... The Nuggets clearly won

I don't get what's so hard to understand about this.

 

[hometownhero]

warriors not giving up klay because they have some sense

cavs gonna cave i think, they're too scared if they don't do exactly what Bron wants he's gone

i say wait the wolves out worst case scenario they trade him somewhere else and you still have all those young pieces you can move if need be

don't know if bron will actually leave again. when i read that letter i said he shouldve gotten someone else to word it 'cause he kinda locked himself in cleveland for the rest of his career, which was ridiculously stupid of him and his team

 

[NickFolarin]

 

If you can trade, arguably a Top 5 player, and you don't have a setback, in terms of wins or playoff position.... The Nuggets clearly won

No

It's about a draw. If anything, the Knicks have been better because of what they did 2 years ago. Both teams were injury riddled last year.

So getting equal value for a Top 5 player, makes the trade even? When has that ever be done? In my book, that would be a win for the Nuggets.

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

I don't get what's so hard to understand about this.

So getting eequalvalue for a Top 5 player, makes the trade even? When has that ever be done? In my book, that would be a win for the Nuggets.

Does equal mean the same thing as even? You tell me.

If staying in the same position and eventually falling backwards while never going further than the team you traded with is winning, then yea crown the Denver Nuggets if you want

 

[offset pow clow]

Denver "won" the trade because of amares decline, had he not fallen off, this wouldnt even be a debate

 

[merowavy]

Does equal mean the same thing as even? You tell me.

If staying in the same position and eventually falling backwards while never going further than the tram you traded with is winning, then yea crown the Denver Nuggets if you want

bro i think you trying too hard not to understand
they got rid of their star player who wanted out and in return got players that allowed their team to still compete

and as i typed that out i don't see how the nuggets got a better deal either lol

 

[do work son]

The fact that the nuggets won 57 games one season removed from the Melo deal tells me a lot. And y'all need to stop with the "east west makes no difference"

A sub 500 team made the playoffs on the east, a 48 win team got snubbed in the west. It's not the same.

 

[RyGuy45]

Throw in the fact the Nuggets only were basically allowed to send Anthony to one team and yeah they overachieved big time IMO.

Knicks got Carmelo out of the deal (when superstars are scarce) so they won out too.

But you have to give the Nuggets their props when their hands were tied with almost no leverage and they got that group back and since then have gone .580 in the West while NYK have gone .549. Injuries have been no joke to both sides though for sure.

 

[senorroboto2k5]

The Knicks and Nuggets were trying to accomplish different things with the trade. I don't see how one can "win" if they're going for different things.

 

[julius wrek]

Carmelo playin' futbol,

Interesting choice in footwear...

Julius Wrek

 

[do work son]

The nuggets have won more games than the Knicks each season since the deal if I'm not mistaken as well.