2016 MLB thread. THE CUBS HAVE BROKEN THE CURSE! Chicago Cubs are your 2016 World Series champions

[CP1708]

Where do we count his high school hits?

I played in a pretty good Babe Ruth league, wonder if I can claim those towards my 4,000.

 

[certifiedflyboi23]

If they count Japan League stats, they should consider counting minor league stats as well

 

[a55a5in11]

SMH you sound stupid. your going to compare a high school league or babe ruth league too a professional league

 

[mr marcus]

smh @ comparing the aba and nba.....those leagues combined in the end

better example would the nba count players stats who played in the spanish professional league (considered the 2nd best league in the world)? NO NO NO

 

[a55a5in11]

If they count Japan League stats, they should consider counting minor league stats as well

once again you guys are being slow. nobody is adding his japan career hits to his MLB hits in the record books! all people are saying is he has 4,000 hits combined from both leagues.

 

[certifiedflyboi23]

once again you guys are being slow. nobody is adding his japan career hits to his MLB hits in the record books! all people are saying is he has 4,000 hits combined from both leagues.

But ESPN will still show a chart with him and Pete Rose's hits?

 

[CP1708]

Ima start counting touchdowns Julio Jones scored in the SEC with his NFL TD's.

 

[ii flash ii]

But ESPN will still show a chart with him and Pete Rose's hits?

The chart was comparing their first 13 years in the MLB... I didnt see the Japan hits included

 

[a55a5in11]

once again you guys are being slow. nobody is adding his japan career hits to his MLB hits in the record books! all people are saying is he has 4,000 hits combined from both leagues.

But ESPN will still show a chart with him and Pete Rose's hits?

because espn is the record keepers? espn does stupid **** all the time

 

[certifiedflyboi23]

Man I can see right thru David Ortiz.

 

[a55a5in11]

Ima start counting touchdowns Julio Jones scored in the SEC with his NFL TD's.

because college is a pro league? I bet you think you could play pro japan baseball too. your that dude that thinks you could play pro ball because what you do at the YMCA

 

[certifiedflyboi23]

because college is a pro league? I bet you think you could play pro japan baseball too. your that dude that thinks you could play pro ball because what you do at the YMCA

Man shut up.

The way you're responding, one would think you're Ichiro..

 

[Johnny_Cakes]

Ichiro does not have 4,000 MLB hits, and that's all that matters.

 

[a55a5in11]

because college is a pro league? I bet you think you could play pro japan baseball too. your that dude that thinks you could play pro ball because what you do at the YMCA

Man shut up.

The way you're responding, one would think you're Ichiro..

LMAO!! the way you argue one would think you have autism

 

[certifiedflyboi23]

 

[BtownKj]

because college is a pro league? I bet you think you could play pro japan baseball too. your that dude that thinks you could play pro ball because what you do at the YMCA

aint no point in continuing it fam. some people will acknowledge it and some arnt. those that do understand its career hits, not MLB hits. those that done will just keep coming back with stupid responses as have been seen in here already.

 

[mfreshm]

If they count Ichiro japan hits then they should count Hank Aaron negro league stats...

 

[lb510]

Pete Rose just go away

 

[mez 0ne]

But ESPN will still show a chart with him and Pete Rose's hits?

and baseball/media is making this out to be a huge milestone celebration, guy already had 1500 hits his rookie season.

Not an MLB milestone at all, good for him though.

 

[ooiron manoo]

This whole Ichiro thing,

For the record Japanese leagues are equivalent to triple A baseball with less young talent, so more like a place for 4-A players. Players too good for triple A, but too long in the tooth to develop and not quite good enough to hold on to a roster spot on the 25 man.

So counting his hits from Japan and treating it like a milestone,

 

[651akathepaul]

This thread shows me who watches too much ESPN. 4,000 hits...Good for Ichiro. Really. But the only ones really glorifying this from I've seen is ESPN. Expounding this fact is because he's with the Yankees. If he were with the Mariners still then they would only give it a small segment and move on.

 

[lb510]

Braun's apology

Now that the initial MLB investigation is over, I want to apologize for my actions and provide a more specific account of what I did and why I deserved to be suspended. I have no one to blame but myself. I know that over the last year and a half I made some serious mistakes, both in the information I failed to share during my arbitration hearing and the comments I made to the press afterwards.

NIGHTENGALE: Will apology help Braun?

I have disappointed the people closest to me -- the ones who fought for me because they truly believed me all along. I kept the truth from everyone. For a long time, I was in denial and convinced myself that I had not done anything wrong.

It is important that people understand that I did not share details of what happened with anyone until recently. My family, my teammates, the Brewers organization, my friends, agents and advisors had no knowledge of these facts, and no one should be blamed but me. Those who put their necks out for me have been embarrassed by my behavior. I don't have the words to express how sorry I am for that.

Here is what happened. During the latter part of the 2011 season, I was dealing with a nagging injury and I turned to products for a short period of time that I shouldn't have used. The products were a cream and a lozenge which I was told could help expedite my rehabilitation. It was a huge mistake for which I am deeply ashamed and I compounded the situation by not admitting my mistakes immediately.

I deeply regret many of the things I said at the press conference after the arbitrator's decision in February 2012. At that time, I still didn't want to believe that I had used a banned substance. I think a combination of feeling self righteous and having a lot of unjustified anger led me to react the way I did. I felt wronged and attacked, but looking back now, I was the one who was wrong. I am beyond embarrassed that I said what I thought I needed to say to defend my clouded vision of reality. I am just starting the process of trying to understand why I responded the way I did, which I continue to regret. There is no excuse for any of this.

For too long during this process, I convinced myself that I had not done anything wrong. After my interview with MLB in late June of this year, I came to the realization that it was time to come to grips with the truth. I was never presented with baseball's evidence against me, but I didn't need to be, because I knew what I had done. I realized the magnitude of my poor decisions and finally focused on dealing with the realities of-and the punishment for-my actions.

I requested a second meeting with (MLB) to acknowledge my violation of the drug policy and to engage in discussions about appropriate punishment for my actions. By coming forward when I did and waiving my right to appeal any sanctions that were going to be imposed, I knew I was making the correct decision and taking the first step in the right direction. It was important to me to begin my suspension immediately to minimize the burden on everyone I had so negatively affected -- my teammates, the entire Brewers organization, the fans and all of MLB. There has been plenty of rumor and speculation about my situation, and I am aware that my admission may result in additional attacks and accusations from others.

I love the great game of baseball and I am very sorry for any damage done to the game. I have privately expressed my apologies to Commissioner Selig and Rob Manfred of MLB and to Michael Weiner and his staff at the Players' Association. I'm very grateful for the support I've received from them. I sincerely apologize to everybody involved in the arbitration process, including the collector, Dino Laurenzi, Jr. I feel terrible that I put my teammates in a position where they were asked some very difficult and uncomfortable questions. One of my primary goals is to make amends with them.

I understand it's a blessing and a tremendous honor to play this game at the major league level. I also understand the intensity of the disappointment from teammates, fans, and other players. When it comes to both my actions and my words, I made some very serious mistakes and I can only ask for the forgiveness of everyone I let down. I will never make the same errors again and I intend to share the lessons I learned with others so they don't repeat my mistakes. Moving forward, I want to be part of the solution and no longer part of the problem.

I support baseball's Joint Drug Treatment and Prevention Program and the importance of cleaning up the game. What I did goes against everything I have always valued -- achieving through hard work and dedication, and being honest both on and off the field. I also understand that I will now have to work very, very hard to begin to earn back people's trust and support. I am dedicated to making amends and to earning back the trust of my teammates, the fans, the entire Brewers' organization, my sponsors, advisors and from MLB. I am hopeful that I can earn back the trust from those who I have disappointed and those who are willing to give me the opportunity. I am deeply sorry for my actions, and I apologize to everyone who has been adversely affected by them.

 

[denni5themenace]

Braun's apology

Now that the initial MLB investigation is over, I want to apologize for my actions and provide a more specific account of what I did and why I deserved to be suspended. I have no one to blame but myself. I know that over the last year and a half I made some serious mistakes, both in the information I failed to share during my arbitration hearing and the comments I made to the press afterwards.

NIGHTENGALE: Will apology help Braun?

I have disappointed the people closest to me -- the ones who fought for me because they truly believed me all along. I kept the truth from everyone. For a long time, I was in denial and convinced myself that I had not done anything wrong.

It is important that people understand that I did not share details of what happened with anyone until recently. My family, my teammates, the Brewers organization, my friends, agents and advisors had no knowledge of these facts, and no one should be blamed but me. Those who put their necks out for me have been embarrassed by my behavior. I don't have the words to express how sorry I am for that.

Here is what happened. During the latter part of the 2011 season, I was dealing with a nagging injury and I turned to products for a short period of time that I shouldn't have used. The products were a cream and a lozenge which I was told could help expedite my rehabilitation. It was a huge mistake for which I am deeply ashamed and I compounded the situation by not admitting my mistakes immediately.

I deeply regret many of the things I said at the press conference after the arbitrator's decision in February 2012. At that time, I still didn't want to believe that I had used a banned substance. I think a combination of feeling self righteous and having a lot of unjustified anger led me to react the way I did. I felt wronged and attacked, but looking back now, I was the one who was wrong. I am beyond embarrassed that I said what I thought I needed to say to defend my clouded vision of reality. I am just starting the process of trying to understand why I responded the way I did, which I continue to regret. There is no excuse for any of this.

For too long during this process, I convinced myself that I had not done anything wrong. After my interview with MLB in late June of this year, I came to the realization that it was time to come to grips with the truth. I was never presented with baseball's evidence against me, but I didn't need to be, because I knew what I had done. I realized the magnitude of my poor decisions and finally focused on dealing with the realities of-and the punishment for-my actions.

I requested a second meeting with (MLB) to acknowledge my violation of the drug policy and to engage in discussions about appropriate punishment for my actions. By coming forward when I did and waiving my right to appeal any sanctions that were going to be imposed, I knew I was making the correct decision and taking the first step in the right direction. It was important to me to begin my suspension immediately to minimize the burden on everyone I had so negatively affected -- my teammates, the entire Brewers organization, the fans and all of MLB. There has been plenty of rumor and speculation about my situation, and I am aware that my admission may result in additional attacks and accusations from others.

I love the great game of baseball and I am very sorry for any damage done to the game. I have privately expressed my apologies to Commissioner Selig and Rob Manfred of MLB and to Michael Weiner and his staff at the Players' Association. I'm very grateful for the support I've received from them. I sincerely apologize to everybody involved in the arbitration process, including the collector, Dino Laurenzi, Jr. I feel terrible that I put my teammates in a position where they were asked some very difficult and uncomfortable questions. One of my primary goals is to make amends with them.

I understand it's a blessing and a tremendous honor to play this game at the major league level. I also understand the intensity of the disappointment from teammates, fans, and other players. When it comes to both my actions and my words, I made some very serious mistakes and I can only ask for the forgiveness of everyone I let down. I will never make the same errors again and I intend to share the lessons I learned with others so they don't repeat my mistakes. Moving forward, I want to be part of the solution and no longer part of the problem.

I support baseball's Joint Drug Treatment and Prevention Program and the importance of cleaning up the game. What I did goes against everything I have always valued -- achieving through hard work and dedication, and being honest both on and off the field. I also understand that I will now have to work very, very hard to begin to earn back people's trust and support. I am dedicated to making amends and to earning back the trust of my teammates, the fans, the entire Brewers' organization, my sponsors, advisors and from MLB. I am hopeful that I can earn back the trust from those who I have disappointed and those who are willing to give me the opportunity. I am deeply sorry for my actions, and I apologize to everyone who has been adversely affected by them.

fraud

 

[RyGuy45]

Here is what happened. During the latter part of the 2011 season, I was dealing with a nagging injury and I turned to products for a short period of time that I shouldn't have used. The products were a cream and a lozenge which I was told could help expedite my rehabilitation. It was a huge mistake for which I am deeply ashamed

Ahh the infamous, "I only used once and it was to come back sooner from an injury" line.

These knuckleheads all have the same PR people, handlers, and fairy tales, it's like it's a form piece of paper and "fill in your name in the blanks and read."

 

[lb510]

That " lozenge" gets em every time.