2017 NBA FINALS THREAD. PART III

[a-friend]

Really questionable in the beginning. I didn't think so at first but i'm rewatching the game now.

I mean every damn warrior player getting hit with 2 quickies which completely took the dubs physicality on that side of the ball away meanwhile the Cavs are getting away with murder as far as holding  and riding KD, Steph, and Klay out on their pindowns.

oh NOW you see it [emoji]129300[/emoji]

He wasn't trying to hear it before or after last game, but then again GSW won and he hit his bets.

Today though, today he got ears cuz

 

[leavemeglazzies]

LeBron is trash. He couldn't even make this list. FRAUD.

Fake news.

Because according to one of NT Kobe stans' shots at LeBron prior to game 4, Kobe never even got swept twice doe. 

 

 

[noblekane]

man aint nothing like a good workout at the gym

these women tho like damn dont they know the **** they wearing is distracting like **** come on now im tryna lift and you got your *** in my face with the tightest leggins in the world got me on that weight bench like drake in that one degrassi episode

 

[SadBoi]

We just need the same great officiating in the next game and we Gucci.

Need the Larriors to blow a 3-0 lead for the culture. They just need to win this away game and it'll go to 7.

 

[freeze]

2 of those kobe sweeps should have an asterisk doh.

1st was spurs in like 99. bruh was what, 19 and not even playing?

2nd was legit, 2011 to mavs.

3rd was 2013, spurs, he ruptured the achilles like a week prior and never played a single game in that series.

 

[P C H]

oh NOW you see it [emoji]129300[/emoji]

if you look at scoring by quarters the refs robbed us of a good close game because of that first quarter. the nba was so scared the cavs were gonna get swept but it tirns out the cavs had heart and didnt need help. cavs still would have probably come out on top but who knows. the refs decided to give the cavs the d wade treatment in the first quarter lol

Not really, I saw some funny business last game. But if we're keeping it a buck, like I said before Human Error vs Crooked Ref'ing is a real debate and bias is apparent. I'm not excluded to that. Tonight COULD BE me just being biased because I thought the warriors weren't getting the right calls.

When I said that last  game, I was being facetious because people weren't just claiming the games would be rigged, but they were claiming that the rigging would be so much that the Cavs were GUARANTEED a victory in game 3. You predicted it along with several others that they would not just be the beneficiary of calls, but that they would WIN, which they didn't. I found that hilarious because I specifically said that rigging won't help the cavs because they're so far away from GSW.

Keeping it a buck, if im being totally honest, even if the game was rigged for the Cavs, that's not what lost the cavs the game and refs don't decide the game. The Cavs having a game for the ages shooting wise far outweighed the "bad calls"

 

[noblekane]

i would not be surprised if the cavs came back to bring it to game 7

curry klay and dray had their heads up their *** last night

shot horribly

even kd shot abismal but atleast he dropped 35

 

[P C H]

This is why I thought shoeking was being a little over zealous after last game when he kept saying "rigged huh" or "refs will keep it close huh" and stuff like that.

I mean, shoeking, you seem to bet often enough that I would think you'd understand what we were trying to say by 'the refs would keep it close or make sure Cavs won' etc.

They followed the script last game, but you can only direct, you can't actually give the game to a team that just won't win.

I can't believe how you're being on this tbh

Over Zealous? So I was the over zealous one, not the ppl claiming that the Cavs would win game 3 because the Fix was in, only for them to lose. But I was the over zealous one

Y'all said the game would be rigged and that that would be the reason the cavs won. People were GUARANTEEING cavs game 3 win on this line of thinking, and they lost. That was funny.

And I don't ever believe the refs have THAT MUCH influence to decide the outcome of a game. Or as you put it "Make sure the cavs won." Thats ridiculous because the Cavs aren't even good enough for rigging to matter that much.

Tonight is a prime example. I was doing the caps lock **** because I was joking and had money on GSW, but at the end of the day were they bad calls sure? Were they the product of Human Error or Crooked Refs? We DONT know. None of us do. And at the end of the day, the Cavs making 30 3's and going crazy FAR OUTWEIGHS whatever tiny advantage the cavs got from calls going their way.

 

[leavemeglazzies]

2 of those kobe sweeps should have an asterisk doh.

1st was spurs in like 99. bruh was what, 19 and not even playing?

2nd was legit, 2011 to mavs.

3rd was 2013, spurs, he ruptured the achilles like a week prior and never played a single game in that series.

1st one was vs Jazz in 1998.

2nd one was vs Spurs in 1999, a season where he played 37.9 minutes per game. He played 41.8 minutes per game that series.

3rd one was vs Mavericks in 2011.

4th one was vs Spurs in 2013 when he lucky enough to be injured not to technically be a part of the sweep.

 

[P C H]

i would not be surprised if the cavs came back to bring it to game 7
 

You WOULDNT be surprised if a team down 3-0 right now pushes a series to a game 7?

I don't believe you for a second.

 

[Lovetohate3000]

 
I'm not.

Y'all said the game would be rigged and that that would be the reason the cavs won. People were GUARANTEEING cavs game 3 win on this line of thinking, and they lost. That was funny.

And I don't ever believe the refs have THAT MUCH influence to decide the outcome of a game. Or as you put it "Make sure the cavs won." Thats ridiculous because the Cavs aren't even good enough for rigging to matter that much.

Tonight is a prime example. I was doing the caps lock **** because I was joking and had money on GSW, but at the end of the day were they bad calls sure? Were they the product of Human Error or Crooked Refs? We DONT know. None of us do. And at the end of the day, the Cavs making 30 3's and going crazy FAR OUTWEIGHS whatever tiny advantage the cavs got from calls going their way.

as a friend said. you cant give them the win. 

and yes cavs went crazy but how much of that was the warriors being passive on defense because of the how the game was called and how they were handing out fouls . i think it wouldve been much closer without the funny business, cavs couldve won either way but to say that games cant be effected by refs. nba refs have influence on games as much if not more then any other sport .

 i cant believe that. the teams were held to different standards on foul calls. it was obvious. 

 

[P C H]

I am not saying rigging does or doesn't happen.

What i'm saying is that Human Error happens as well. Fine line between human error and rigging. I personally thought some calls were really bad and that the refs were being partial to the cavs, but I recognize that I have a bias. If you're looking for the refs to be biased, then a slew of calls going one way is only going to confirm what you think. That doesn't mean they're actually rigging the game.

For the record, I do think think rigging has happened before. The NBA is way too big of an entity for it not to happen and Tim Dohnahy had a lot a merit to his claims.

But, does that mean that because calls were going the cavs way early that they were rigging it in favor of the cavs? Come on man, you don't know that. I don't know that. And ultimately, No amount of rigging can change the course of a game when one team is vastly superior than the other and tonight, The cavs were vastly superior than Golden State.

 

[purpnyellow]

Dubs need to put kyrie in the post and it's game over

 

[freeze]

2 of those kobe sweeps should have an asterisk doh.


1st was spurs in like 99. bruh was what, 19 and not even playing?


2nd was legit, 2011 to mavs.


3rd was 2013, spurs, he ruptured the achilles like a week prior and never played a single game in that series.

1st one was vs Jazz in 1998.
2nd one was vs Spurs in 1999, a season where he played 37.9 minutes per game. He played 41.8 minutes per game that series.
3rd one was vs Mavericks in 2011.
4th one was vs Spurs in 2013 when he lucky enough to be injured not to technically be a part of the sweep.

Ahh you're right about #2. My mistake. That's legit too then. That was a Del Harris yr yea?

Chill on 3.

 

[Hank Scorpio]

Really poor officiating, but the Warriors didn't do much by taking awful shots in the first half. I don't think the Warriors ever went on the runs they usually go on. The whole game I was waiting for a run to start, but it never did.

Kyrie went God mode again and the rest of the Cavs played well. JR and Jefferson really gave them solid minutes. I feel the Cavs will win game 5 as well. Especially if they let the Cavs play physical again and throw the Warriors off from the beginning. Tough indeed.

 

[P C H]

Really poor officiating, but the Warriors didn't do much by taking awful shots in the first half. I don't think the Warriors ever went on the runs they usually go on. The whole game I was waiting for a run to start, but it never did.

Kyrie went God mode again and the rest of the Cavs played well. JR and Jefferson really gave them solid minutes. I feel the Cavs will win game 5 as well. Especially if they let the Cavs play physical again and throw the Warriors off from the beginning. Tough indeed.

You were right about JR Smith finally coming through for them.

 

[freeze]

if i cant defend without getting called and you can defend without being called, of course I'm going to look bad. You will get a lot of easier looks because I can't be physical while you can.


All the best defenders on gsw had 2 fouls in the 1st . They all grabbing b?

 

[Hank Scorpio]

You were right about JR Smith finally coming through for them.

In a 7 game series, you have to expect someone from the bench will come through, usually that happens at home.

Cavs tried to get him going as well. Both games 3 and 4, he took the first shot as well.

I will say this though. The officiating in the beginning was VERY questionable. But that was no excuse for the GSW not being able to at least try to go into their offense. They panicked and tried to get quick shots up. They never seemed poised. The closets they got was within 6 and never came close again.

I was even holding out the GSW to cut the lead down to 10 at some point and that didn't happen as well. Tough loss for the Warriors.

IDK what Kerr is going to do about Zaza either. The Cavs obviously attacked him on the PnR for a good chunk of the 2nd half and took advantage.

 

[Lovetohate3000]

if i cant defend without getting called and you can defend without being called, of course I'm going to look bad. You will get a lot of easier looks because I can't be physical while you can.


All the best defenders on gsw had 2 fouls in the 1st

. They all grabbing b?

no brainer. 

 

[noblekane]

warriors were so close to making history

that chance will never happen again

 

[freeze]

warriors were so close to making history

that chance will never happen again

until next june lmaoo.

warriors will still be in prime

cavs will be another yr older.

ay dios mio.

 

[P C H]

if i cant defend without getting called and you can defend without being called, of course I'm going to look bad. You will get a lot of easier looks because I can't be physical while you can.


All the best defenders on gsw had 2 fouls in the 1st

. They all grabbing b?

They probably were, but those types of calls are on plays that happen literally every single time down the court. The Cavs and The Warriors could both be called for holding EVERY single time down the court.

Tonight it appeared that they chose to be extra critical of GSW, which was weird af to me. Klay and Steph get held literally every time they're off the ball and yet they make those calls for the cavs tonight. Wild.

 

[freeze]

i dont like bron

but i really hate tristan thompson. like personally. i would mush his face b

 

[a-friend]

The refs did their part in trying to get the Cavs to an advantage point.

GSW still won.
It didn't mean the people (me included) who said Cavs would win and the refs would help, were wrong in acknowledging that the refs would help them win, and you acted like that was the case.

All talking about "what about rigging" yada yada, point is, you weren't recognizing it then, but now you are, how odd is all.

 

[a-friend]

You just acted all funny like we made the stuff up like a bunch of conspiracy theorist tinfoil heads or soemthing

Side note same note: even now you are saying "y'all were just acting like the game is rigged" when that isn't the case now and wasn't the case then.

We just recognize how refs operate, and you're now joining that group and acknowledging it, why trying not to put yourself in agreemace with folks who do recognize it.

Cake and eat it all or something. Weird stuff man.