2017 NBA FINALS THREAD. PART III

Who Will Win the 2017 NBA Finals?

  • Cleveland Cavaliers

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The refs did their part in trying to get the Cavs to an advantage point.

GSW still won.
It didn't mean the people (me included) who said Cavs would win and the refs would help, were wrong in acknowledging that the refs would help them win, and you acted like that was the case.

All talking about "what about rigging" yada yada, point is, you weren't recognizing it then, but now you are, how odd is all.

You missed my point, and I may have not said this. (Although I'm pretty sure I did)

I personally DO AGREE with you that fixing a game to some degree happens. I was poking fun at the wrong predictions for game 3 dude. It was in jest.

I've said in this thread that fixing does happen. Did I or do I believe it matters in this series (or most other series for that matter?) No.

But what you don't recognize is that confirmation bias is real. If you or I go into a game thinking that the refs are trying to fix it, then we'll be far more likely to attribute what we believe to be wrong calls, as such rather than it simply being human error or the product of Cleveland playing with more force.

I was joking in the thread tonight. The calls looked shaky to me but that doesn't mean they were rigged. Shaky calls happen in EVERY SINGLE NBA GAME
 
You just acted all funny like we made the stuff up like a bunch of conspiracy theorist tinfoil heads or soemthing :rollin

Side note same note: even now you are saying "y'all were just acting like the game is rigged" when that isn't the case now and wasn't the case then.

We just recognize how refs operate, and you're now joining that group and acknowledging it, why trying not to put yourself in agreemace with folks who do recognize it.

Cake and eat it all or something. Weird stuff man.

Man this isn't the first time that I've acknowledged that rigging could and does happen in the NBA. I've said that Tim Dohnahy was right multiple times on here. Keep glossing over that.

I simply was poking fun tonight and Wednesday because of NTs infatuation with the rigging narrative. Do I believe the game was rigged for The cavs in games 3 and 4? You possibly but the main point is I HAVE A BIAS and YOU DO TOO so neither of us can unequivocally say that what we felt were bad calls were the products of crooked refs and not human error.
 
Agree.
Confirmation bias is def real.
I'm just giving you a hard time either way.
 
Agree.
Confirmation bias is def real.
I'm just giving you a hard time either way.

If two dudes on NT can manage to have a civil disagreement and come to terms with it without passive aggressiveness, then i have faith in humanity after all

Unfortunately i dont have this kind of confidence in refereees
 
This is my ending piece on it a-friend a-friend then I'm out. Got the surgery in the AM.

1) ppl predicting the cavs would win based on crooked refs and ended up losing wouldn't be funny to some ppl. That **** was hilarious. Dudes GUARANTEED the W based on that.

2) that if someone believes that prior to a game that it's going to be rigged, then they already are admitting bias so you or I aren't even judging the validity of these calls with unbiased lenses. If I want gsw to win, of course I'm going to feel like **** is shady :lol if you believe pregame that the refs would favor the cavs OF COURSE you're going to automatically think the favorable whistles are due largely to fixing. How do we really know that the refs are just messing up instead of trying to fix a game?

Like I said I 110% believe that fixing happens but I'm 2017 idk if that's true. By believing that it does happen though, I'm admitting bias that forgoes the human error element of refereeing an extremely tough sport
 
Agree.
Confirmation bias is def real.
I'm just giving you a hard time either way.

If two dudes on NT can manage to have a civil disagreement and come to terms with it without passive aggressiveness, then i have faith in humanity after all

Unfortunately i dont have this kind of confidence in refereees
:rollin

I have faith in the refs, faith that they will continue the shady biz [emoji]128556[/emoji]
 
They weren't that cold. They were really within the game the whole way through. Klay steph and Dray were making big shots. They still scored like 120 lol

Cavs were just shooting lights out. Almost 140 in a Finals game bruh
 
:rollin

I have faith in the refs, faith that they will continue the shady biz [emoji]128556[/emoji]
Not a viable excuse to me, the Dubs were cold and it showed.

I think it was more Cavs was just on fire more than Dubs being cold (only Curry was no show imo)

At the end of the night, Dubs still scored 116 with Curry being cold.

That's a pretty high score. It's just that Cavs were hot from everywhere (reason why they broke the record in 3s and points in quarter)

If it weren't for that 1st quarter. Outcome would be different imo
 
I think it was more Cavs was just on fire more than Dubs being cold (only Curry was no show imo)

At the end of the night, Dubs still scored 116 with Curry being cold.

That's a pretty high score. It's just that Cavs were hot from everywhere (reason why they broke the record in 3s and points in quarter)

If it weren't for that 1st quarter. Outcome would be different imo
True, Cavs showed their offensive prowess tonight and left the Warrior in the dust.
 
I guess when I said the Warriors were cold, what I meant was Klay and Curry being cold. I think in night when they don't have anything going, they should take it to the house and take fouls, easy buckets for them.
 
finallyfamous finallyfamous we should do a new MSPaint contest volume:2017 Finals Moments.

Deadline game 5 tipoff.
Winner picks any participants avy until the NBA Awards.
 
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The thing with the refs was a huge black eye for the NBA but wasn't evidence of 'rigged'.

It was evidence that NBA refs are completely out of control sometimes; clueless.

I've said for the longest that the 2 most difficult things in sports are hitting a baseball and reffing an NBA game. Making the decisions they make at a million miles an hour, it's tough.

And they are terrible at it far too often. Preferential treatment, superstar calls, being wrong on blocking/charging so often, dudes taking 4/5/6/23 steps across the court without dribbling and nothing is called, not knowing who the hell a technical foul was given to... it's ridiculous, man.

But that's what it is: ridiculous.

Not rigged.

Ridiculous.
100% this, but people just want there to be a conspiracy.

Outside of all of this the Cavs just played an offensive game that's hard to match. Their offensive rating was 148 with LeBron on the floor. That's why this game went the way it did. A crazy offensive output that likely can't be replicated.
 
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100% this, but people just want there to be a conspiracy.

Outside of all of this the Cavs just played an offensive game that's hard to match. Their offensive rating was 148 with LeBron on the floor. That's why this game went the way it did. A crazy offensive output that likely can't be replicated.

148 damn lol

And whenever he sat for 1-2 min the warriors went on a 10-0 run :lol
 
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Soon.
 
The more physical team and the home team usually gets more calls. This isn't anything new, it was a couple here and there that could've not been called but they were fouls. The refs didn't decide this game, Cleveland shooting out of their mind did. If you told me GS would have 68 at half and 120 at the end of the game before it started 9 times outta 10 that's a Warriors win. The refs weren't out there shooting those 3s for Cleveland.
 
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