2020-21 NBA Offseason thread: Officially a wrap

Lamelo would be the worst shooting non-big to ever go #1 in the modern era. Paired with average at best athleticism.

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cedric ceballos cedric ceballos you deserve royalties for the phrase “funemployment” and when you shook down a bulk buyer who bought up all the Columbia Blue 11’s by the way. :lol:.


To me, the one guy that’s finessed the system and realized what he was is Evan Turner. Drafted #2. Landed a few near max contracts and he’s chillin’. He’ll be the first to tell you “I’m rich either way”. On IG if you mock him for his draft selection and production not aligning. :lol:
 
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Lamelo understands passing better than most people to ever touch a basketball. He has the physical frame to easily be one of the better rebounders at his position. He has a good handle that generally allows him to get to where he wants on the court even without the strength or speed you'd prefer to see at the highest level. As a role player he'd excel.

The problem is he and everyone else are convinced he's already a superstar. So he chucks up long distance 3s with his ****** shot mechanics, wastes seconds on the clock dancing in place in front of defenders, falls into the trap of hero ball isoing instead of abusing pick and rolls and plays some lazy *** defense. The good news is these are mostly mental problems which can be fixed with proper coaching holding him accountable.
 
I read Anthony Edwards was raised by his siblings too.

Kudos to them. But God I hope they and his circle doesnt aggravate this kid once he secures his rookie bag(s).
 
Lamelo understands passing better than most people to ever touch a basketball. He has the physical frame to easily be one of the better rebounders at his position. He has a good handle that generally allows him to get to where he wants on the court even without the strength or speed you'd prefer to see at the highest level. As a role player he'd excel.

The problem is he and everyone else are convinced he's already a superstar. So he chucks up long distance 3s with his ****ty shot mechanics, wastes seconds on the clock dancing in place in front of defenders, falls into the trap of hero ball isoing instead of abusing pick and rolls and plays some lazy *** defense. The good news is these are mostly mental problems which can be fixed with proper coaching holding him accountable.

So essentially he's a less "athletic" and flashier Russell Westbrook? interesting.
 
Remember when Vince Carter wanted to get traded from the raptors and they wouldn't oblige him? He averaged 15 points, tanked his value and they ended up getting garbage back from the nets while Vince went on to average 27 a night. Holding onto disgruntled stars is just stupid

I’m sure a player trying to strong arm their way out is going to piss of that team. Ultimately it’s a business and they’ll trade them to their preferred destination if they get the right offer.

But I got no issue with them holding on to said player even if said player becomes a disruption until they get a deal they deem acceptable. Said team likely wasn’t winning a title with their star player to begin with and is more likely going to rebuild once they trade them. So if said player half asses it, all that’s doing is helping your draft status.

If the deals out there are trash, it’s not worth moving them if letting walk for nothing is a better option than taking on a less than ideal deal.

If a disgruntled player acts up and is disruptive with their current team, it may end up potentially costing them money too. If they act that way with one team who is to say they won’t do it when things don’t go their way elsewhere. Gm’s might put conduct or behavioral clauses in their deal or be hesitant to give them them the Max deal they may have considered giving them prior.
 
The nba is just like any other job without the bells and whistles.

you’ll have that group that loves the job like it truly loves them back, the group that works said Job because it simply pays the bills and funds their other interest etc, and some that just do it because they’re good at it.
Historically pro players that aren’t in love with the game, and put in the work needed to be great are the 7 foot centers who are bums. It’s so competitive for guards, if you don’t have a passion for the game and you’re like 6’4” you won’t make it. It’s real unusual for a guard to be a great player and not have the love.
 
cedric ceballos cedric ceballos you deserve royalties for the phrase “funemployment” and when you shook down a bulk buyer who bought up all the Columbia Blue 11’s by the way. :lol:.


To me, the one guy that’s finessed the system and realized what he was is Evan Turner. Drafted #2. Andes a few near max contracts and he’s chillin’. He’ll be the first to tell you “I’m rich either way”. On IG if you mock him for his draft selection and production not aligning. :lol:

lol. I got my pair of Columbia’s that day too. 15 year old me wasn’t playing that game.

and a dude like Evan Turner telling people like that on ig is comical. But if a player can keep landing contracts just off skill alone and kick back once they land them. More power to them.

These gm’s need to get better at evaluating players, reading them better and seeing through things that are said. They talk to and interview numerous players every year. If they fall for it and constantly sign guys who half *** it and don’t put in the maximum effort, thats on them.

If you’re fortunate to be very good at basketball but it’s not your passion, you should still get your money. You have the natural god given talent to do something that only a few hundred people are capable of doing. Even if it’s not your passion, you’re still one of the best in the world at it and should get paid as such.
 
Jaylen Browns IQ would refuse to allow him to be just another mediore inefficient defensive wing. Being on a franchise that played in meaningful games helped too.
 
I’m sure a player trying to strong arm their way out is going to piss of that team. Ultimately it’s a business and they’ll trade them to their preferred destination if they get the right offer.

But I got no issue with them holding on to said player even if said player becomes a disruption until they get a deal they deem acceptable. Said team likely wasn’t winning a title with their star player to begin with and is more likely going to rebuild once they trade them. So if said player half asses it, all that’s doing is helping your draft status.

If the deals out there are trash, it’s not worth moving them if letting walk for nothing is a better option than taking on a less than ideal deal.

If a disgruntled player acts up and is disruptive with their current team, it may end up potentially costing them money too. If they act that way with one team who is to say they won’t do it when things don’t go their way elsewhere. Gm’s might put conduct or behavioral clauses in their deal or be hesitant to give them them the Max deal they may have considered giving them prior.
Yea that sounds cool and all but it doesn't work like that. And in this specific example with Houston it's definitely not happening like that
 
Yea that sounds cool and all but it doesn't work like that. And in this specific example with Houston it's definitely not happening like that

How so?

Harden has no leverage in this situation. He’s under contract two more seasons and has a no trade clause. They’re well within reason to hold out and not move him unless they get a return close to what New Orleans (who had no leverage whatsoever) got in the AD trade.
 
How so?

Harden has no leverage in this situation. He’s under contract two more seasons and has a no trade clause. They’re well within reason to hold out and not move him unless they get a return close to what New Orleans (who had no leverage whatsoever) got in the AD trade.
When has it ever happened like that? Look at what the wolves got for butler after saying they weren't gonna honor his trade request. They didn't get a better deal out of it because that's not how it works. Even with Nola they got a lesser package for AD than they would've got if they just traded him before the deadline. And with Houston, tilman is broke. Every move he's ever made has been to avoid the tax. The rockets are in the tax with only 10 guys on the roster. So now all of a sudden he's gonna go deep into the tax for THIS version of the rockets? He's bluffing and everyone should be able to see that. And even without the financial implications it does him no good to hold off well after the season is underway looking for a better deal because nothing about that will improve the offers he gets and only creates a hostile environment for everyone involved
 
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