Moheezy
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2022 NBA Offseason Thread: Preseason kicks off; Things are fine in Los Angeles, Draymond beats the charges
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damn knicks really going down that road again huh?
how many years til they trade brunson after they sign him?
how many years til they trade brunson after they sign him?
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KD should go back to OKC
Right the ship
Right the ship
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KD, Sha, Chet, etc
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I see this narrative going around and I’m not buying it.
I think it says more about people that so many are used to “from the trenches, single mom, no dad, had to eat sugar sandwiches” narrative that’s been spammed to death. as if that was ever the dominant stereotypical background of an NBA player.
We see a few drafts highlighting parents, particularly the presence of black fathers and suddenly the kid from the trenches is in trouble
Definitely a lot of truth to the narrative from seeing the change through the yrs, back then it was way more hood cats that made it from your Iversons, D. Miles, Sheed, Z-bo, Marbury, Eddie Griffin, Rodney White, DerMarr Johnson, Artest, Dajuan Wagner, D Rose, John Wall, Tyreke Evans, Stephen Jackson, Caron Butler etc. Can go on and on, either that or they were country/rural areas like Michael Jordan, Karl Malone. A lot closer to NFL non QB demo. It's been trending to 2nd gen NBA players, or their parents played pro basketball in some overseas league. Or their dad played pro sport in something else like Shane Larkin, Vernon Carey Jr. etc. One or both parents played a pro sport at some level basically. This is for the American landscape, now the rest are coming from Canada, France, the former Yugoslavia nations etc.
Just look at how these recent yrs Ballislife and those other platforms do those videos visiting their cribs and you see how they living in gated communities and nice houses and all that, Mikey Williams, Amari Bailey etc. They wouldn't be doing visits to the projects and section 8 apt complexes that the players from the past lived in. Basketball is no longer a lower income sport in America, its been gentrified. I think the John Wall draft might've been the last yr before the shift really became noticeable
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He averaged 20-5-5 as a rookie. He had an amazing year then fell off because the Kings misused him
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Yeah no. For every player you just named, I can name another for each in the same era that came from the opposite circumstance. Some of your favorite all time players come from "good" backgrounds. Did you skip over this post?
I think people exaggerate the degree this stereotype was ever true.
i don't think this has been the case since basically the 90's
the real change is urban to suburban kids.
There are PLENTY of current young players that are from the "trenches. Go google "character concerns nba draft" and see what you get back.
And Michael Jordan grew up in a nuclear family in Wilmington. ***** ain't from no rural area
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Yeah no. For every player you just named, I can name another for each in the same era that came from the opposite circumstance. Some of your favorite all time players come from "good" backgrounds.
There are PLENTY of current young players that are from the "trenches. Go google "character concerns nba draft" and see what you get back.
And Michael Jordan grew up in a nuclear family in Wilmington. ***** ain't from no rural area
Who from recent yrs? Hamidou Diallo, Ant Edwards, Miles Bridges, Dejounte Murray are all I think of off top of my head. Seems like less than a handful in the 1st rd usually per yr now drastic decrease from the past.
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need it
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Gentrified? We are still 70% of the NBA. now everyone isn’t coming from tough backgrounds. And that’s a good thing.
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I find this to be absurd for a number of reasons. For one, we tend to talk about the higher profile players whose stories have been shared or highlighted for some reason. Most knew nothing about Dejounte Murray's background until recently. So to pretend like we can just go look at a NBA Draftee list by year and say "this guy from the trenches, this guy from a good home" as if that level of intel can be easily accessible for everyone at quick glance
Ya'll see parents coming out on stage with draft picks and suddenly the "good kid" is taking over. This is really weird to me for some reason.
And it's also telling how people instantly associate the "trenches" with african-americans. You should go look at some of the circumstances some international players are coming from (especially the Eastern Europeans).
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Now I'm starting to see why 2K and Spike Lee thought it was ok to make a MyPlayer mode based on coming out of the projects, with a best friend still in the street
Even if you created a chinese character from Palo Alto...that was still the story. With the same black family.
I think in this weird *** space the world is in, ****** think they be frontlining a noble social cause and don't know they're exposing their own programming.
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Now I'm starting to see why 2K and Spike Lee thought it was ok to make a MyPlayer mode based on coming out of the projects, with a best friend still in the street
Even if you created a chinese character from Palo Alto...that was still the story. With the same black family.
I think in this weird *** space the world is in, ****** think they be frontlining a noble social cause and don't know they're exposing their own programming.
Him saying basketball is being gentrified by black people not coming from poverty gotta be the wildest thing I’ve read on NT this year.
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Was that really a 2k story mode? Wtf
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I just read his post over and missed the Amari Bailey thing.
Amari Bailey is from the West side of Chicago who was raised by his single mother
Him having the ability to move to California and attend a high profile school and have certain access is because of his basketball ability (and other things we don't need to speak on
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I just read his post over and missed the Amari Bailey thing.
Amari Bailey is from the West side of Chicago who was raised by his single mother
Him having the ability to move to California and attend a high profile school and have certain access is because of his basketball ability (and other things we don't need to speak on
Yeah I wasn’t even going to bring up how many step daddies done emerged from basketball talent. And the moms out here doing what they gotta do.
Momma got needs too, Jodie
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Xennial
has BEEN a strange dude. Remember, he always talks about measurements and size, like a slave owner on an auction or something Buddy super strange
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Couple more days until the offseason gets cooking.
Still think Kyrie and KD stay.
Still think Kyrie and KD stay.
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I find this to be absurd for a number of reasons. For one, we tend to talk about the higher profile players whose stories have been shared or highlighted for some reason. Most knew nothing about Dejounte Murray's background until recently. So to pretend like we can just go look at a NBA Draftee list by year and say "this guy from the trenches, this guy from a good home" as if that level of intel can be easily accessible for everyone at quick glance
Ya'll see parents coming out on stage with draft picks and suddenly the "good kid" is taking over. This is really weird to me for some reason.
And it's also telling how people instantly associate the "trenches" with african-americans. You should go look at some of the circumstances some international players are coming from (especially the Eastern Europeans).
I've specifically said this is for the American landscape, not applying this to the canadians or europeans or other foreign prospects
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That 2K story was terrible Me and my friend still joke about it today
Few things have given me as much joy as finding out that your friend dies in the end
Me and my friend still joke about it todayFew things have given me as much joy as finding out that your friend dies in the end
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The Thunder got JWill out here in a womens polo at the introductory press conference
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I can't lie, I used to laugh at his antics. Very suspect but still ridiculous
Buddy super strange
I remember when he was acting like Ninja's publicist in the Political Thread
Say anything about Ninja and he would come running. I think I remember him posting dude's inseam one time.
Then
aepps20
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