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Makes no sense. Ortiz before Bonds? System is broken.
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Thrilled Miñoso made it! Long overdue
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Big Papi going in 1st ballot 
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Sucks that those sanctimonious old farts are still disrespecting Bonds though 
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Papi was/is more likeable than Bonds ever will be. I'm sure that played a huge factor in voting.
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What a joke. It’s been a joke. We all know who the goat is
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Apparently they'll still have a shot on the 'today's game era' ballots in December but not the writers anymore
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Ortiz skates a bit because his steroid issue has a gray area.
SI.com:
David Ortiz could be elected Tuesday but falls into a category of lesser evidence. Ortiz’s name, according to The New York Times, appeared on a list of positive tests in 2003 as part of anonymous survey testing with no penalties. But no substance was identified, and commissioner Rob Manfred and late union chief Michael Weiner, in unprecedented public defenses, both cited scientific questions as reasons not to consider it a positive test.
Steroid users likely have been voted in already, but again, not with a preponderance of evidence.
SI.com:
David Ortiz could be elected Tuesday but falls into a category of lesser evidence. Ortiz’s name, according to The New York Times, appeared on a list of positive tests in 2003 as part of anonymous survey testing with no penalties. But no substance was identified, and commissioner Rob Manfred and late union chief Michael Weiner, in unprecedented public defenses, both cited scientific questions as reasons not to consider it a positive test.
Steroid users likely have been voted in already, but again, not with a preponderance of evidence.
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Likable or not, Bonds had the numbers to make pre steroid suspicion.
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Ortiz is smart. He works with the MLB after retirement. Doing commentary. Befriending writers
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Scientific questions were cited because baseball didn’t need another black eye after all the other steroid stuff.
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It's gotten to that point where these baseball writers are just too stubborn to do what's right and send Bonds to Cooperstown. It's a shame.
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Used Ortiz to spite the king one last time.
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GreenNGold89
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at Ortiz being in and not Bonds. What a joke, but can’t be surprised.
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Likability has nothing to do with on-field performance. Bonds was going to be great with or without PEDs
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The writers hated BB even before the steroid stuff became public, the witch hunt after definitely became personal imo.
It's a damn shame and an injustice to the game when he literally had 2 HOF worthy careers in one. It's a joke how they've gone about the whole thing and doesn't do the game any justice at all with generations under the age of 50-60
It's a damn shame and an injustice to the game when he literally had 2 HOF worthy careers in one. It's a joke how they've gone about the whole thing and doesn't do the game any justice at all with generations under the age of 50-60
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These voters just need to die out. Enough of these boomers.
Ortiz juiced as well this makes absolutely no sense.
Ortiz juiced as well this makes absolutely no sense.
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Pedro was on deck with his fam when he got the call 
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Yeah. What a joke. Keep these juiceheads out of the HOF or put them in with an asterisk on their name plate
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Same with Tony Oliva.
Happy for Twins and Mariners great David Ortiz, but otherwise, we already know what it is. Bonds, Clemens, Schilling, Arod...it's not a HOF without them. What can ya do?
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darthska
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A Hall of Fame without Bonds is simply unacceptable.
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aepps20
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Ortiz juiced too but because he smiles and befriends the writers so it's all good? What a joke.
