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Originally Posted by Proshares

Orlando has a bunch of people who already need the ball in their hands to operate and SVG struggles to give out minutes properly as it is. That team would get worse with him. Vince, T-Mac and Jameer are likely to go down at any time.
He's not going to start so does it matter that much? He would be fine off the bench for them playing very limited minutes.
 
It would matter, they have two solid rotations going. Throw McGrady and his necessity to have the ball in his hands into either the starting lineup or the bench lineup and that team will be thrown out of proportion. And he's not going to be playing limited minutes like he should be, he'll be tossed out there to play. Even if he does get limited minutes, he'd be saying he deserves or needs more time. I dunno, I think he'd be really bad for the Magic. They have a good thing going, don't mess it up with this dude.
 
Yeah, maybe you're right. I just feel like they have bigger problems than he would be for them. This would be his last year and I feel like throwing him out there a few minutes a night could help them but there really isn't much he brings to the table anymore.
I would like to give the Magic a serious talking to.
 
SVG is a horrible coach, even if T-Mac puts in work and lights it up he'd still bury him on the bench. Look at Gortat and Bass. Made the offseason hell for the Mavs to keep Gortat and then sign Bass away and they're both rotting on the bench. Ryan Anderson would give them the ability to stretch the floor even more and he's buried. Their problem starts with Ron Jeremy on the bench.
 
Thats what you get for having a team so stacked.



I honestly dont know why they dont use the "twin tower" lineup more often. Works really well imo.
 
The Magic do make sense for Tracy McGrady. I don't think it matters. Tracy McGrady isn't the same player as before anyways. I'd definitely love to see him advancing to the second round in the playoffs someday or getting a ring.
 
Originally Posted by Proshares

SVG is a horrible coach, even if T-Mac puts in work and lights it up he'd still bury him on the bench. Look at Gortat and Bass. Made the offseason hell for the Mavs to keep Gortat and then sign Bass away and they're both rotting on the bench. Ryan Anderson would give them the ability to stretch the floor even more and he's buried. Their problem starts with Ron Jeremy on the bench.
Could they use their players better and have better matchups? Sure.  Should Dwight be getting more touches in the offense? Definitely.  Can SVG sometimes be a bonehead coach?  Yep.

Are they still the 2nd best team in the East with a 52-22 record even with their problems and SVG as the coach?
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I get what you're saying and I watch the Magic as much as the Knicks, it's frustrating to see SVG and his lineups sometimes.  But the team is obviously doing something right and it works for them.

McGrady would be awful for Orlando, though.  They don't need another shooter/scorer.  They need Dwight to become a dominant offensive force and that's when they become the favorites to win.
 
Yea, not enough touches for McGrady in Orlando for him to be a productive asset & not hurt the team. I'd still like to see him here, after an off season to get as healthy as he can, along with superstar A & B.
 
Originally Posted by THE GR8

. The Knicks got NY on lock, and NY is a basketball city before anything, AND the Knicks have NEVER had a player considered the best in the league. Lebrons marketability will unlike any athlete ever seen ever IMO (yes, more than MJ or Tiger) if he came to NY. If he stayed in Cleveland, his marketability would never reach as high as Jordans was. If he wants to surpass a guy like MJ as the most marketable player in sports history, hed have to be in NY. Not to say he wouldnt sell in Cleveland, he already does, but not like MJ.

thats not 100% true. Believe it or not, Lebron is on pace to surpass MJ's sales with Nike at this time in his career. Lebron knows he doesn't need NY. NY needs him - no matter how much we wanted to believe otherwise.
We all know NY is the biggest city but to be quite honest with everybody, Lebrons Nike shoes are the best selling basketball shoe model right now.

something tells me I want Lebron in NY so bad but hey, lets be honest. Basketball is good for him where he is right now. I'd the rather Knicks make something out of nothin and make it w/o lebron.

  
 
just want to say this ladies and gentlemen

"eff lebron"

that is all.











I'm seriously tired of this dude like im not even hype anymore of the possibility of lebron coming to NY. Im more hype signing joe johnson, chris bosh or even marcus camby and tmac. Tmac i def want to have on the knicks, joe would look lovely wit a knicks jersey
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Honestly, if we can resign lee, get bosh, and camby, ill actually call that a success.



Lee as that spark off the bench, Camby with the veteran leadership, hollaaaaaaa.
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Originally Posted by Fatherless Child

Originally Posted by THE GR8

. The Knicks got NY on lock, and NY is a basketball city before anything, AND the Knicks have NEVER had a player considered the best in the league. Lebrons marketability will unlike any athlete ever seen ever IMO (yes, more than MJ or Tiger) if he came to NY. If he stayed in Cleveland, his marketability would never reach as high as Jordans was. If he wants to surpass a guy like MJ as the most marketable player in sports history, hed have to be in NY. Not to say he wouldnt sell in Cleveland, he already does, but not like MJ.
thats not 100% true. Believe it or not, Lebron is on pace to surpass MJ's sales with Nike at this time in his career. Lebron knows he doesn't need NY. NY needs him - no matter how much we wanted to believe otherwise.
We all know NY is the biggest city but to be quite honest with everybody, Lebrons Nike shoes are the best selling basketball shoe model right now.

something tells me I want Lebron in NY so bad but hey, lets be honest. Basketball is good for him where he is right now. I'd the rather Knicks make something out of nothin and make it w/o lebron.

  

that can NOT be true in any in any way

kids were literally MURDERING and robbing each other over jordans. to this day kids are getting stabbed over jordans shoes. there are people actually rocking concords and space jams to their wedding. i can count the amount of lebron sneakers i've seen worn in new york on one hand, nike is full of crap with whatever numbers you are seeing.

the color scheme alone doesn't work as good as black.red/white from a fahsion sense. i call %%*@*!+$
 
I dont think sneakers are going to reach its peak like it did 3 years ago. Maybe in another generation when the old fads become the new thing again.
 
[h3]Donnie Walsh on state of Knicks[/h3]
April, 1, 2010

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By Chris Sheridan
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The following is a partial transcript of my interview with New York Knicks president Donnie Walsh on the state of the franchise.

For more, see my column on how Walsh plans to approach the summer of 2010 and the next five years.

Sheridan: It was said you’d have a two-year honeymoon when you got here. But the critics are beginning to chirp, and the pressure to make this work is rising. Does it feel to you like the honeymoon is over?

Walsh: I never expected a honeymoon the minute I decided to go the way we’re going I knew the first two years were going to be really rough. I was asked: Do you think New York can rebuild, and I said we’re going to find out because of what we’re going to do. There might not be the appetite for it, we’ll see.

You have to go through pain to rebuild a team, and we’re going through pain. It takes time. If you look at some of these teams that are up at the top, look back 4-5 years and see where they were. They had to go through the same kind of period. I had always been told that New York didn’t want to go through that, so we’ll find out. I’m not sure.

Sheridan: Speaking to folks on the street, which way do those comments run?

Walsh: I haven’t had any really bad experiences. I’m not saying everybody who walks into me agrees with what I’m doing, but they all give me “good luck
 
Anyone have a feelign Walsh is just trying to calm us down and #!!#%@+* us?





We know damn well we werent making the playoffs
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Hes right about one thing though, NYers are one of the smartest, and loyalest fans out there.
 
You guys are kidding me right? Just because people were killig each other for jordans doesn't mean they were selling more than lebrons. That just means people couldn't afford them back than. I don't hear or see people stickin anybody for kicks anymore. Ever since the fakes came on the scene. And if it is happening, well never hear about it. You didn't see 10 or 11 Jordan colorways of a single model ever until jordans 13th or 14th year. Not to mention so many exclusive pairs and unreleased pairs.



Bottom line, us NYers need to let go of this Lebron thing. We all like it's a failure if we don't get him. It could be a disaster in disguise if we land him. Dude is fine in Cleveland. I think he'll create a legacy if he stays where he's at. The last thing we need is the NYK being known as the big jinx, or career ending paradise. I want to see the Knicks make nothing from something again.
 
lebrons sneakers will never be bigger sellers than jordans. i just don't believe that would ever happen.
 
A dozen days will pass before the Knicks go underground, before they leave LeBron James and his playoff-worthy peers with a wink and a tweak of a smoky Sinatra line -- excuse us while we disappear.

Another grim Garden season will be complete, and then a city of 8 million point guards will fast-forward past the Finals and the draft and stop dead on the stroke of midnight, July 1, when Knicks president Donnie Walsh makes what could be the biggest phone call in the history of New York sports.

LeBron, this is Donnie. Will you stay or will you go?

Actually, that first call will go to James' agent, Leon Rose. But no rep is making this decision. Only an athlete with a "Chosen 1" tattoo racing across his comic-book back can decide what, exactly, he was chosen to do.

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To lead the hometown Cavaliers to a title or three? To save the big-market Knicks from themselves?

James should pick Door No. 2. Win, lose or draw in the playoffs, he should honor the magnitude of his game, his persona and his appeal and do a summer deal with the Knicks that would reduce the sale of Babe Ruth to a story the size of a rosin bag.

No, this isn't to say a start-to-finish career in Cleveland amounts to a bad option. The Cavaliers have been good to LeBron. They've built a consistent contender around him, and, of course, they'll pay him the maximum wage to stay, some $30 million more than the Knicks are allowed to bid.

And let's face it: If Cleveland was good enough for Jim Brown, it should be good enough for LeBron James.

Only it's not quite good enough when measured against New York. This isn't about the pizza, or the weather, or the nightlife, or whatever default positions writers often embrace when elevating one market at the expense of another.

This is about legacy, and one too important to be left in the hands of a New York columnist with an agenda.

Yes, I want to cover the world's best player. Yes, I want the Garden to be the Garden again. Yes, I needed to run into Pat Riley at last month's Big East tournament -- the two of us talking about '93 and '94 and '95 -- to remember what the city was like when the Knicks were playing for a title, even if they didn't win one.

So the pitch to LeBron belongs to more prominent voices, to past and present combatants in the New York arena, to five men from other corners of America and one plucked right off the asphalt of Rucker Park.

They all believe the Chosen One would benefit from choosing the Knicks. Only the former baller from Rucker Park, Donnie Walsh, was prohibited under David Stern's law from saying so.


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LeBron James will have the basketball world at his feet when July 1 rolls around.
The captain

Back in the day, Willis Reed never saw anything like LeBron James.

"Guys like him hadn't been invented yet," Reed said.

Reed grew up on a farm in Bernice, La. He didn't want to be drafted by the Knicks, if only because that meant he wouldn't be drafted in a first round that included seven picks.

He was angry when taken at No. 8 and stayed angry until his heart set a blind pick on his brain. Reed loved New York, and New York loved him right back.

So he had no choice but to shoot up his injured leg with carbocaine, hobble down the Garden tunnel for Game 7 in 1970 and score those four forever points over Wilt the Stilt.

The adrenaline was far more powerful than the carbocaine, or Chamberlain's Lakers, and Reed wants LeBron to feel the orgasmic rush he felt during that only-in-New York night.

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Willis Reed, a self-proclaimed 'country boy,' embraced the Big Apple during his time with the Knicks.
"I was a country boy in the city; I didn't even know what a point spread was when I arrived," said Reed. "And New York turned out to be the greatest thing that ever happened to me.

"I don't know LeBron well enough to say he'd be comfortable in the city, but I do know this: There's no place like New York. It's just the way it is.

"So if you're asking me as a Knicks fan, I really hope when all is said and done that LeBron's wearing a New York Knickerbocker uniform. That's my wish.

"I mean, do you want to win a championship in New York or Sacramento?"

The captain II

In 1991, Mark Messier didn't need New York half as much as New York needed him. Messier had won five Stanley Cups with the Oilers in his native Edmonton, Alberta, or five more than the Rangers had won since 1940.

Little did Messier know that No. 6 would define him in ways that one through five never could.

Messier guaranteed a Game 6 victory over the Devils in the '94 conference finals, delivered a hat trick and finally grabbed the Stanley Cup on Garden ice before letting loose his MGM lion's roar.

"Because it was New York and we hadn't won in so long," Messier said, "even if you weren't a hockey fan you were tuning in. It became bigger than hockey and bigger than the Stanley Cup."


He would find it very appealing to be on the New York stage.
 
Camby Could Be Set for MSG Return

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Posted: 4/2/2010 4:26:00 AM
Source: Marc Berman of the New York Post


As he left Portland's Rose Garden late Wednesday, Marcus Camby carried a plastic bag with some Knicks jerseys and warm-ups inside. Gifts from old friends on the Knicks' support staff.

Camby realizes it's possible he will be wearing the Knicks jersey again for real next season and couldn't hide that old grin when discussing that scenario.

At age 36, the 6-foot-11 Blazers center will be a free agent July 1, available for a mid-range salary the Knicks will try to fit under the salary cap.

They have no center or shot-blocker. Although the Knicks first want to bring in star power, Camby, who played for the Knicks from 1999-2002, fulfills a grave need, and coach Mike D'Antoni and team president Donnie Walsh know it.

"It's a feeling of going back home and going back to a city where I have a lot of great memories and a lot of great friends," Camby said. "Definitely July 1, I'll give New York a look if they're interested."

Camby, a Hartford product, said even his family is excited about recent reports about the Knicks' interest. However, Walsh has so much to juggle. If they get two stars, or one star and re-sign David Lee, there may be no room for Camby or a mid-range free agent. Raja Bell and Kyle Korver also are on their list.

"You always want to be where you're wanted," said Camby. "I know how it feels like to play for the Knicks. I know what it feels like to wear that jersey and represent that city. All the great players we had. All the great times we had on that team."
 
I always thought Bron wouldn't come anyway, He's home, top 2 teams in the L.

 i just wanna know how this Bosh and Lee thing will work out, if we can get Bosh.
 
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