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Originally Posted by swizzc

Originally Posted by 2LipsLegit

Originally Posted by JoseBronx

the government shouldn't have to tell car manufacturers what to do
/thread


The gov had to bail them out though. If you've asked for and accepted bailout loans/funds you kind of forfeit your freedom from government imposed mandates/standards imo. The gov has every right to impose these things. It's probably written out in the bailout documents.

"In September, 2008 the Big Three asked for $50 billion to pay for health care expenses and avoid bankruptcy and ensuing layoffs, and Congress worked out a 25$ billion loan.[83] By December, President Bush had agreed to an emergency bailout of $17.4 billion to be distributed by the next administration in January and February.[84] In early 2009, the prospect of avoiding bankruptcy by General Motors and Chrysler continued to wane as new financial information about the scale of the 2008 losses came in. Ultimately, poor management and business practices forced Chrysler and General Motors into bankruptcy. Chrysler filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy protection on May 1, 2009 [85] followed by General Motors a month later."
 
Originally Posted by swizzc

Originally Posted by 2LipsLegit

Originally Posted by JoseBronx

the government shouldn't have to tell car manufacturers what to do
/thread


The gov had to bail them out though. If you've asked for and accepted bailout loans/funds you kind of forfeit your freedom from government imposed mandates/standards imo. The gov has every right to impose these things. It's probably written out in the bailout documents.

"In September, 2008 the Big Three asked for $50 billion to pay for health care expenses and avoid bankruptcy and ensuing layoffs, and Congress worked out a 25$ billion loan.[83] By December, President Bush had agreed to an emergency bailout of $17.4 billion to be distributed by the next administration in January and February.[84] In early 2009, the prospect of avoiding bankruptcy by General Motors and Chrysler continued to wane as new financial information about the scale of the 2008 losses came in. Ultimately, poor management and business practices forced Chrysler and General Motors into bankruptcy. Chrysler filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy protection on May 1, 2009 [85] followed by General Motors a month later."
 
Originally Posted by So Nyuh Shi Dae

Did you really link us to Fox News and expect us to take you seriously?

I've seen this dude ninjahood cite yahoo answers, craigslist, and urbandictionary for his arguments against gay marriage.
 
Originally Posted by So Nyuh Shi Dae

Did you really link us to Fox News and expect us to take you seriously?

I've seen this dude ninjahood cite yahoo answers, craigslist, and urbandictionary for his arguments against gay marriage.
 
Originally Posted by NikeAirForce1

Originally Posted by So Nyuh Shi Dae

Did you really link us to Fox News and expect us to take you seriously?

I've seen this dude ninjahood cite yahoo answers, craigslist, and urbandictionary for his arguments against gay marriage.
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Originally Posted by NikeAirForce1

Originally Posted by So Nyuh Shi Dae

Did you really link us to Fox News and expect us to take you seriously?

I've seen this dude ninjahood cite yahoo answers, craigslist, and urbandictionary for his arguments against gay marriage.
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Originally Posted by 2SeatPort

Originally Posted by swizzc

Originally Posted by 2LipsLegit

/thread


The gov had to bail them out though. If you've asked for and accepted bailout loans/funds you kind of forfeit your freedom from government imposed mandates/standards imo. The gov has every right to impose these things. It's probably written out in the bailout documents.

"In September, 2008 the Big Three asked for $50 billion to pay for health care expenses and avoid bankruptcy and ensuing layoffs, and Congress worked out a 25$ billion loan.[83] By December, President Bush had agreed to an emergency bailout of $17.4 billion to be distributed by the next administration in January and February.[84] In early 2009, the prospect of avoiding bankruptcy by General Motors and Chrysler continued to wane as new financial information about the scale of the 2008 losses came in. Ultimately, poor management and business practices forced Chrysler and General Motors into bankruptcy. Chrysler filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy protection on May 1, 2009 [85] followed by General Motors a month later."
thats because da unions that da big 3 are at da mercy of crippled em, meanwhile foreign automakers that create and manufacture cars here don't have to abide by those guidelines, so their not even playing on a even field.

Originally Posted by swizzc

Originally Posted by 2LipsLegit

Originally Posted by JoseBronx

the government shouldn't have to tell car manufacturers what to do
/thread
bingo....its da same with da healthcare industry, da government has no business telling you what kinda treatment you should be getting...different toilet, same doo doo
 
Originally Posted by 2SeatPort

Originally Posted by swizzc

Originally Posted by 2LipsLegit

/thread


The gov had to bail them out though. If you've asked for and accepted bailout loans/funds you kind of forfeit your freedom from government imposed mandates/standards imo. The gov has every right to impose these things. It's probably written out in the bailout documents.

"In September, 2008 the Big Three asked for $50 billion to pay for health care expenses and avoid bankruptcy and ensuing layoffs, and Congress worked out a 25$ billion loan.[83] By December, President Bush had agreed to an emergency bailout of $17.4 billion to be distributed by the next administration in January and February.[84] In early 2009, the prospect of avoiding bankruptcy by General Motors and Chrysler continued to wane as new financial information about the scale of the 2008 losses came in. Ultimately, poor management and business practices forced Chrysler and General Motors into bankruptcy. Chrysler filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy protection on May 1, 2009 [85] followed by General Motors a month later."
thats because da unions that da big 3 are at da mercy of crippled em, meanwhile foreign automakers that create and manufacture cars here don't have to abide by those guidelines, so their not even playing on a even field.

Originally Posted by swizzc

Originally Posted by 2LipsLegit

Originally Posted by JoseBronx

the government shouldn't have to tell car manufacturers what to do
/thread
bingo....its da same with da healthcare industry, da government has no business telling you what kinda treatment you should be getting...different toilet, same doo doo
 
Originally Posted by BostonThreeParty

Originally Posted by kix4kix

I'm all for it. You lost the second you posted a fox news video.

you lost for automatically thinking that everything fox news is some horrible, twisted bias, as if no other networks are doing the same. 
QFT

as if you peebrains actually watch da video its actually informative, its not da circus theatrics of bill o' reilly....
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its informative journalism.

you think everyone can afford these expensive new hybrid and electric cars? especially ones that people just dont want? they're gonna be sitting on lots da SECOND opec figures out

da US is trying to pull a fast one and will just lower prices..look what happened to da toyota prius as soon as gas got cheap, it stop selling and started catchin dust.

us americans like big cars, and we love to drive...this country was built on automobile travel.
 
Originally Posted by BostonThreeParty

Originally Posted by kix4kix

I'm all for it. You lost the second you posted a fox news video.

you lost for automatically thinking that everything fox news is some horrible, twisted bias, as if no other networks are doing the same. 
QFT

as if you peebrains actually watch da video its actually informative, its not da circus theatrics of bill o' reilly....
laugh.gif
eyes.gif
its informative journalism.

you think everyone can afford these expensive new hybrid and electric cars? especially ones that people just dont want? they're gonna be sitting on lots da SECOND opec figures out

da US is trying to pull a fast one and will just lower prices..look what happened to da toyota prius as soon as gas got cheap, it stop selling and started catchin dust.

us americans like big cars, and we love to drive...this country was built on automobile travel.
 
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