$69k for a 2015 Tahoe LTZ... Smh!

[zapatohead408]

Base Tahoe has always been around 50k. I'm confused.

word. Base American SUV have always been expensive.

Not because its a BMW oriented response, because its a "you must be settling if you choose the less expensive option, and cant afford the more expensive one " response.

Just like that last comment



Some people prefer American cars over European... some people like the styling of the Cadillac better. Some people like the fact that the CTS-V can out handle the M5, RS4, AMG63, etc.

You were good til u said that.
You know it cant

Not sure if you're talking about the last statement, but yes. The CTS-V can out handle and out run the car's you mentioned. It's the reason Ferrari bought the patents for the suspension off GM.

 

[paulprince3730]

There's a 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT8 with 8300 miles for $62,900 or best offer right now on Ebay.

I'm about 90% sure if someone searched hard locally with $55k cash in hand then they could get one. I didn't necessarily mean having 0 miles, I was talking about getting a same year model.

Btw, wth does what someone actually drive have to do with their car knowledge? That #NT logic...

im sayin

zyzz seem like he dont know much more about cars than the avg nter he tryna **** on

 

[paulprince3730]

 

 

Not because its a BMW oriented response, because its a "you must be settling if you choose the less expensive option, and cant afford the more expensive one " response.

Just like that last comment

Some people prefer American cars over European... some people like the styling of the Cadillac better. Some people like the fact that the CTS-V can out handle the M5, RS4, AMG63, etc.

You were good til u said that.
You know it cant

The Nordschleife Nurburgring begs to differ.

he has an m5..........

 

[zapatohead408]

But seriously, anybody that knows about cars knows that Cadillac has always always been at the top.

Yes American cars depreciate, so does every other car. As of recent however, they've been holding their value better than before.

 

[dankenstien88]

 

 

Not because its a BMW oriented response, because its a "you must be settling if you choose the less expensive option, and cant afford the more expensive one " response.


Just like that last comment




Some people prefer American cars over European... some people like the styling of the Cadillac better. Some people like the fact that the CTS-V can out handle the M5, RS4, AMG63, etc.

You were good til u said that.

You know it cant

The Nordschleife Nurburgring begs to differ.

he has an m5..........

I know

 

[paulprince3730]

 

[degenerate423]

The Nordschleife Nurburgring begs to differ.

What are the times? I'm just seeing an '04 M5 at 8:13 and an '09 CTS-V at 7:59. I'm seeing unofficial times for an '11 F10 M5 at 7:55.0 and a '14 CTS-V at 8:14.1.

 

[BruceUppercut]

Why does every car related post on NT turn into a BMW debate?

 

[ctidda]

No one?

ummm me? ill take a CTSV over a M3/M5

its cheaper and looks plus is 556HP...

cant front the M5 is but whats better bang for your buck?

Just cause its a BMW oriented response? 

I know a lot of car dudes, no one in their mid twenties is checkin for Caddys. Ive seen those CTS-V's with older white dudes driving them.

Of course theres going to be those who genuinely like the car, im just saying the masses would much prefer a Bimmer/Audi/MB regardless of performance. Their name is just too strong. CTS-V IMO seems to be a car you "settle" for when you cant get the M5, E63, S6 etc etc.

Yeah they settled for a car that tested better than the ones u listed for a number of consecutive years.. BMW, Merc and Audi had to step their game up to compete with the CTS-V on the track. It is a hell of a car fam..
The German performance market is well established over here so of course the average dude with some money will cop it over the CTS-V.. Cadillac only has one performance vehicle so it needs more time to prove itself to the masses. But with the way GM is engineering the Vette and new Camaro its only a matter of time before badge flossers get their a's handed to em again by that Lac..

 

[MPLS612]

For the record... The Toyota Landcruiser starts at 80K...

Wow

Who are these people paying 80k for a base Toyota suv?

 

[furiousstylez23]

You fools drive civics and accords and in here arguing about cars you never even driven let alone can't afford....

For what its worth I'd take the CTS V over any car in its class. That monster is a Luxury Corvette with a back seat.

 

[fade on you]

$95k for an Escalade?
$69k for a Tahoe?
$80k for a Toyota?

Dudes could be driving around in a Maserati, hell even a Bentley a few years old with about 30k miles for that price. Yeah i get it, some dudes aren't all about the name, but anyone picking a Toyota/Tahoe over a Bentley with 26k miles for the same price is laughable IMO.

 

[eiddyfouw]

You should never ever drop more than 40k on an American car, never, eva. :x

you sound silly, famb.

oh.. them new fusions are

i'd rather cop a base maserati ghibili doe...

woadie, you should never be riding base on anything in the upper luxury echelon.

 

[fontaine]

woadie, you should never be riding base on anything in the upper luxury echelon.

i want to stunt on people...

whatcanisay... i'm a badge flosser.



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[solecity]

Il stick to my 8th Gen Honda Civic..Maintenance is cheap and fills up with $45 bucks

 

[mangudai954]

Your the one critiquing cars on nothing but the badge and Im coming off as the elitist ? Ironic.



BMW wasn't always a luxury company, they used to make sporty cars for average people. It wasn't until the late 80s early 90s that they started increasing their prices and changing the brand image to that of a "luxury car". Cadillac had some weak years in the 80s but they have " been up" on BMW since the earliest years of the automobile.



Cadillac has long been the leader in luxury and technological innovations that soon become the the standard for the rest of the world. Its legitimately scary to think what the automotive industry would be like without Cadillac taking the chances they do and leading the way time and time again year, after year.




1907: Voted car of the year by Royal Automobile Club. Cadillac won the Dewar trophy for creating an easily serviceable vehicle with interchangeable parts that could be started with a single pull of the crank. At the time most other cars were a nuisance to turn on and broke many peoples arms in the process.


1910: Cadillac introduced the first enclosed body. Prior to this all vehicles were open chariot style like a motorized horses carriage.


1913: First car with a modern ignition self starter. Royal Automobile Club awarded Cadillac its second Dewar trophy this year.

1915: Cadillac introduced the worlds first production V-8 engine.

1916: The Cadillac Model 53 created the modern layout of an automobile that is still used today. This was the first car to use center mounted gear lever and hand brake with three pedals (clutch, brake and throttle) in the familiar order still used to this day. This vehicle also featured a key start ignition and a modern center mounted E-brake. I made sure to bold this for emphasis, because without Cadillacs Model 53, lord knows what kind of nonsensical contraptions we would be driving today.

1922: The addition of thermostatic mixture control relieved Cadillac drivers of all carburetor adjustments except for cold-start choking.

1924: First motor with a flat-plane crankshaft with a fully counter-weighted two-plane crank gave Cadillacs a major advantage in smoothness over competitive engines.

1926: Cadillac introduced crankcase ventilation into their second-generation V-8. This was also the first vehicle to see an Oil Filter.

1929: A new Synchro-Mesh Silent-Shift transmission took the clash out of gear changing.

1930: The world's first passenger-car V-16 engine was introduced by Cadillac, with overhead valves, hydraulic lash adjustment, twin carburetors and dual exhausts. The smooth-running 452-cubic-inch engine produced 160 hp at 3,400 rpm and provided a top speed of 100 mph.

1938:Cadillac is responsible for the first modern sunroof, and a column-mounted gearshift lever.

1949: Cadillac's Coupe DeVille earned the first ever Motor Trend Car of the Year award.

1954: Cadillac introduced one-touch windshield washing and wiping, and an automatic headlamp dimmer.

1957: The Eldorado Brougham introduced the world to power seats with memory, automatic door locks, low-profile tires, forged-aluminum wheels, air suspension and an automatic parking-brake release.

1964: Cadillac's Comfort Control was the industry's first thermostatically regulated heating, ventilation and air conditioning system.

1965: Cadillac introduced the first automatic load leveling suspension in an option called "Delco Superlift"

1966: Electric seat warmers and a stereo AM-FM radio became options. Prior to this radios were rare and always AM only.

1969: Cadillac introduced a modern coolant-recovery system captured boiled coolant for return to the radiator to prevent damage when momentary engine overheating occurred.

1971: What we now know as Antilock Brakes was first seen as an option on a Cadillac under the name of "Trackmaster Brakes". These non locking brakes only effected the rear wheels but the system was implemented a full 7 years before Mercedes adopted the technology in 1978.

1973: Cadillac's new theft-deterrent system honked the horn and flashed the headlamps. AKA Alarm system.

1975: The "Delco Freedom battery" option featured in the Cadillac Sevilles was the first to offer a built-in charge indicator.

1979: On board diagnostics and Digital electronics managed Cadillac's fuel injection, ignition and other vehicle systems.

1981: Cadillac introduced their Variable Displacement 4-6-8 system that allowed the motor to run on 4, 6, or 8 cylinders depending on the conditions. It was not until 20 years later in 2001 that Mercedes utilized a similar technology in their v12 vehicles and 2005 when the Chrysler Corporation incorporated a similar technology into some of their models.

1992: Cadillac STS is the first car to utilize LEDs

1993: The 32valve dual overhead cam Northstar engine is made available to the public. This engine was a technological marvel winning numerous awards;beating out its European competition in HP per liter, fuel economy and required maintenance. One of the revolutionary features of the Northstar was called a "limp home" mode which would allow the engine to continue running even in situations where all of the coolant was lost. When the computer senses dangerous overheating conditions it disables selective cylinders and begins pumping air through the banks and automatically changes over to the coolest bank to allow the motor to run without getting hot enough to cause damage.

1995: The Eldorado ETC and Seville STS debuts Cadillacs "Road Sensing Suspension" and chassis control system 4 years before Mercedes introduces their comparable "active body control"


1996:Cadillac introduced the addition of Stabilitrak systems to their already technologically advanced suspensions. This year also marked the first use of Telematics assistance through their global positioning system known as OnStar.

1999: Cadillac introduced the Escalade to compete with Lincolns Navigator SUV forever changing the sport utility market.

2000: The world's first night vision system for automotive use was introduced on the 2000 Cadillac DeVille. This was the first ever infrared-light-based driving aid.

2002: MagneRide variable shock absorbers supplied by Delphi improved the Seville's ride and handling. This technology was so revolutionary that it has now been purchased by Ferrari, Audi, Range Rover and other luxury auto manufacturers.

2008: The Cadillac CTS-V breaks Nurburgring Nordschleife record for a production sedan timing in at under 8 minutes.





Mercedes Benz is often touted with the creation of innovations that were actually used by other manufacturers years before they ever appeared on a Benz. Mercedes has a history of applying for patents on technology's of non existing products (ie Microsoft). Thereby often crediting them for systems that were implemented by other manufacturers decades prior. Active steering systems are a prime example. Mercedes is credited with this system although it was not seen on a Benz before 1991 in their w140 S-class under the patented name of "parameter steering". Large trucks and Studebakers had actually used this same adjustable ratio servo steering technology dating back to the 1940s to make the big vehicles easier to drive at variable speeds.

Great post.

 

[eiddyfouw]

woadie, you should never be riding base on anything in the upper luxury echelon.

i want to stunt on people...

whatcanisay... i'm a badge flosser.



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[Original Playa Records]

American made cars are the best though. You get what you pay for these days. Why do you think foreign cars are getting cheaper?

 

[picasso swerve]

Yeah they settled for a car that tested better than the ones u listed for a number of consecutive years.. BMW, Merc and Audi had to step their game up to compete with the CTS-V on the track. It is a hell of a car fam..
The German performance market is well established over here so of course the average dude with some money will cop it over the CTS-V.. Cadillac only has one performance vehicle so it needs more time to prove itself to the masses. But with the way GM is engineering the Vette and new Camaro its only a matter of time before badge flossers get their a's handed to em again by that Lac..

Again, im not talking about performance settling.

 

[fourtyeight48]

$95k for an Escalade?
$69k for a Tahoe?
$80k for a Toyota?

Dudes could be driving around in a Maserati, hell even a Bentley a few years old with about 30k miles for that price. Yeah i get it, some dudes aren't all about the name, but anyone picking a Toyota/Tahoe over a Bentley with 26k miles for the same price is laughable IMO.

Ever heard of maintence?

It's expensive maintaining those cars.

There's a reason they buy those suv's. It's fits their family needs. Or they want an SUV.

Smh. This guy......

 

[atlien seeko]

Base Tahoe has always been around 50k. I'm confused.

/thread

 

[fade on you]

Ever heard of maintence?

It's expensive maintaining those cars.

There's a reason they buy those suv's. It's fits their family needs. Or they want an SUV.

Smh. This guy......

My post said IMO....no **** maintenance is expensive, i have a foreign car i know all about it. If you got $90k to drop on an SUV, im sure you can afford maintenance on a different car. Thats my OPINION. Im also speaking on my age group, 21-30. I just used those cars as examples of what you could get instead of dropping $80k on a Toyota, why are your feelings hurt.

 

[tero]

Tahoes are for the feds cuh

 

[supermanblue79]

Auto price points across the board are sickening.

50 grand for an average auto is ridiculous. But people are so comfortable financing for 8 years, or leasing for 3 years that the industry can raise prices as they see fit. This is a generation of spenders and maxed out credit.

Its going to take another collapse for the auto industry to get the message.

 

[JayDean03]

Da CTS V is a beast
But the masses are gravitating towards 'high end' badges (Benz, BMW, Audi, etc..)

I think that's what 10pc is trying to say.

If you're a car nut, you're gonna know off top that da V is an awesome machine.

The average person is gonna choose a foreign over a caddy.