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valley of death is cooooooold as hell
-_- Fat Joe's The Darkside Vol. 1 -_-
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Listening...
I'll TRY to give an unbiased review...
I'll TRY to give an unbiased review...
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Waste of a Wayne feature..
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Normally when I do one of these, I'll give an album a good 2 or 3 burns before forming ANY REAL opinion... Due to the fact that I don't like and barley respect Fat Joe (from a music standpoint), I more or less gonna give this ONE burn and just try to be as fair as possible...
Lil background, I enjoyed Jelous Ones Envy as a kid, I thought (and STILL think) Don Carategena is a SOLID effort... Other than that, I don't really care for much of ANYthing he has done... For whatever reason I have his entire catalog on my ipod (don't ask me why)... Except Me, Myself & I which is suppose to be some gem according to the good brotha NinjaHood (and a few others I guess)...
Well here goes nothing... (I mean that literally)...
Intro
Fat Joe sounds pretty angry on this one, I guess we were supposed to have bought his last album... I guess sellin 8K in a week hurts pretty bad. I can't even front, this $##% is actually pretty DOPE... The rapping is above average to Fat Joe standards... The Curtis line @ the end was
... The production was GREAT... All in all, this is good.
4/5
Valley Of Death
Didn't Rick Ross have a song on his last album with this name??... Didn't Prodigy & Alchemist use this sample on Return Of The Mack??... Nothing new here, Fat Joe (er Cool & Dre) eatin off another Ns plate... He even throws a "#kanyeshrug" line, which could mean one of 2 things, he's active on Twitter, or he's on NT... If its the ladder of the 2, I'm gonna make sure to NEVER call him "Fat Joke" again, cause he was on my block before, and he'd prolly have no problem comin again. Back to the song, this is a DOPE #** track, the hook needed a lil more thought, but EVERYthing else is good. His verses are good too... I don't know about the Jadakiss like scream after the 2nd verse... This song has a redemption feel, I guess he fulfilled that to an extent. Even tho the sample has been used before, it was flipped different, and even BETTER in some aspects here
4.25/5
I Am CRACK
I think Juelz had a song named this on his sophmore album that went Gold, but no one seems to own or has even heard it... #kanyeshrug. I guess Fat Joe has some sort of ownership of the name cause after all... He IS Crack...
... Good GOD... This $##% is DANGEROUS... I don't know who wrote that FIRST verse, but he better keep him close by... This $##% is AMAZING... Fire the guy that wrote the 2nd verse...
4.75/5
Kilo
This one leaked a few days ago... Once again he's using ANOTHER sample that a N used a few years ago... But back to the song, The Clipse are on this joint doin a Run DMC styled back and fourth (ala thre $##% they did on the LAST CNN album that NOone bought)... Pusha begins the song with a story about his friend in jail and an old Spanish man seeing Fat Joe on TV... Sure. The beat on this joint is pretty dangerous, Fat Joe, usually a liability on ANY song, doesn't dissapoint... Cam's verse starts off pretty ******ed, gets stronger towards the end but its nothing to write home about... They should've just had Pusha & Malice spit their own verses...
4/5
Rappers Are In Danger
Remember when rappers used to make statements like this, but it was cause dudes thought they were lyrically superior to the point where they would end a dudes career... Fat Joe on the other hand sounds as if he's threatening the saftey of guys. Always good to hear a song with some scratches on it, the beat is pretty DOPE... This sounds like Fat Joe tried to write this himself, I guess that E1 budget can only get you ghostwriters for HALF the album...
3.5/5
Ha Ha (Slow Down)
The 1st single... the song I HATED... Then LOVED. Not much to say about this joint, its pretty much as good as it gets when it comes to Fat Joe... Production is EPIC... Fat Joe's ghostwriter was having a good day, and Young Jeezy was Young Jeezy... There\s really nothin more to say, if you don't feel this song you don't have a pulse.
4.75/5
If It Ain't About Money
The 2nd single?? I guess... I think an NTer (not named NinjaHood) predicted this would be a HIT, not sure if he was joking or not. Trey Songz is on this joint... First song that doesn't have that "Darkside" feel, sounds like a mix between "A Milli" and some $##% off Graduation... & I don't know HOW so I won't try to explain... But it works. This is actually a GOOD song, Trey Songz chorus is coo except for the Miami Heat-Lakers line... That was geh. I doubt it WILL be a HIT, but much like "Ha Ha" (Slow Down), it deffinetly deserves to be
: Goes to check out the video:
4.25/5
No Problems
I think I heard this beat before... Except Snoop Dogg was on it. Flava Flav sample @ the beggining... Public Enemy shout out in the 1st verse... This beat is DOPE... Fat Joe's ghostwriter deffinetly did his thing... Rico Love (who's obviously writing for Joe these days) shows up on the hook here, I guess he's not allowed to rap on tracks anymore after that "Aloha" joint went absolutely NOWHERE... As much as this sounds like "I Wanna Rock", its DOPE in its own right... I actually like this better.
4.5/5
How Did We Get Here
I guess he wants lightening to strike in the SAME place twice... R Kelly's on this joint. The production is DOPE... Kinda reminds me of "Pain" from the Above The Rim soundtrack... This is genuinly a REALLY good song. the rapping is good, the chorus is nice and the production is just flat out EPIC... I can't believe I like this album, I HATE myself.
. This should be a single.
4.75/5
Money Over *#+#+$*
How the hell is Fat Joe gettin all these DOPE beats?? Is he paying double what good rappers pay?? I couldn't imagine a producer that takes his career serious selling a beat to Joe opposed to a... Juelz Santana or someone like that. This $##% is smoother than some homeade pudding... Whoever TA is (prolly the other guy writing for him), he's pretty dope on here... Too Short comes through and does his thing.
4.25/5
Heavenly Father
Now for 11 tracks I've waited for a song to SUCK BALLS and it hasn't come up... Now here's a Lil Wayne feature... Fat Joe spits an introspective verse, and that IS one of his strong points, quiet as its kept... The hook is one of those cheesy prayers that you say so you don't go to hell if you die in your sleep... The production here, while NOT as good as the other $##% on here is still GOOD... The piano more or less makes the beat... I thought Wayne was gonna rap on here?? I guess E1 could ONLY afford him for the hook... Overall its a good introspective song, Joe spits some of his most persnal rhymes on the album on here... Its pretty heartfelt.
4/5
I'm Gone
Now how could I hate on a Preemo track?? I don't think I can... But once again I must say, how in the WORLD does Fat Joe have Preemo's number but Steadman & Nasir don't?? I commend Joe cause he ALWAYS jumps on a Preme track, he's NEVER been the best lyricist, but I've yet to hear him be his normnal wack self on a Preme track, he steps it up, this track is no different. Sounds like it could've been a bonus track on Jealous Ones Envy. GREAT track... He talks for about 4 minutes, about how he REALLY was a criminal before he started rapping... Carrying a gun to the ever so dangerous Grammy's...The type of stuff mothers are proud to hear about their sons... Goes on to shout out everyone he EVER met
5/5
At Last Supremecy
What happens when you put 2 WASHED up 90s rapper on the SAME track?? Well if you have a beat as good as this one, you get a DOPE song... I just knew there would be a GARBAGE song on here... A Busta Rhymes feature hightened the chances of this being the record, but this song is pretty good... The chorus is pretty bad tho. Busta just sounds WAAAAY too angry... His music SUCKING is no ones fault other than his old... I don't wanna here you yelling and soundin all violent.
4/5
Verdict:
Maybe my expectations were just SOO low for this joint, but this is a damn good album... As he says on "Last Supremecy" this is the "biggest comeback in rap" I wouldn't go this far, but from his last album to NOW, he (or his ghostwriters) deffinetly made a HUGE come up... I went into this album thinkin I wouldn't be able to make it through a full listen... No Lie... I brought back like 8 or 9 of the tracks ATLEAST once...
Lyrics have NEVER really been Fat Joe's strongest feat, I don't think theres anyone that can dispute that, but where he lacks lyrically he makes it up with a great choice of production, and knowing when and where to say what... That alone can go a long way. As I ALWAYS say, the difference between making a CLASSIC, a good album or a bad one is simply ones ability to tell a GOOD idea from a BAD one... & I must say, theres NO bad songs on this album. There's not even ANYthing close to being bad, every song is well worth ATLEAST one listen. I've made my thoughts on Fat Joe and his music quite clear, and to be honest I was more excited to hear this album because I KNEW it was gonna completely SUCK BALLS... Boy was I wrong.
So for the Fab's, Jadakiss's of the world, ONE more reason to be ashamed of yourself, Fat Joe has 1/5 the talent of these guys but this album is BETTER than their ENTIRE catalogs... Not only is this EASILY top 5 this year, I might even like this more than TML (for the moment ATLEAST)... This album is DOPE as hell... It's prolly not gonna change the world or ANYthing, but as I'm a STRONG believer of, "you're ONLY as good as your last album... " It almost pains me to think I have to judge Fat Joe by this album until his NEXT garbage album drops... But it is what it is, the man made a SOLID album...
Standout Tracks:
Vally Of Death
I Am CRACK
Ha Ha (Slow Down)
No Problems
How Did We Get Here
I'm Gone
Overall:
4.33/5
Lil background, I enjoyed Jelous Ones Envy as a kid, I thought (and STILL think) Don Carategena is a SOLID effort... Other than that, I don't really care for much of ANYthing he has done... For whatever reason I have his entire catalog on my ipod (don't ask me why)... Except Me, Myself & I which is suppose to be some gem according to the good brotha NinjaHood (and a few others I guess)...
Well here goes nothing... (I mean that literally)...
Spoiler [+]
Intro
Fat Joe sounds pretty angry on this one, I guess we were supposed to have bought his last album... I guess sellin 8K in a week hurts pretty bad. I can't even front, this $##% is actually pretty DOPE... The rapping is above average to Fat Joe standards... The Curtis line @ the end was
4/5
Valley Of Death
Didn't Rick Ross have a song on his last album with this name??... Didn't Prodigy & Alchemist use this sample on Return Of The Mack??... Nothing new here, Fat Joe (er Cool & Dre) eatin off another Ns plate... He even throws a "#kanyeshrug" line, which could mean one of 2 things, he's active on Twitter, or he's on NT... If its the ladder of the 2, I'm gonna make sure to NEVER call him "Fat Joke" again, cause he was on my block before, and he'd prolly have no problem comin again. Back to the song, this is a DOPE #** track, the hook needed a lil more thought, but EVERYthing else is good. His verses are good too... I don't know about the Jadakiss like scream after the 2nd verse... This song has a redemption feel, I guess he fulfilled that to an extent. Even tho the sample has been used before, it was flipped different, and even BETTER in some aspects here
4.25/5
I Am CRACK
I think Juelz had a song named this on his sophmore album that went Gold, but no one seems to own or has even heard it... #kanyeshrug. I guess Fat Joe has some sort of ownership of the name cause after all... He IS Crack...
4.75/5
Kilo
This one leaked a few days ago... Once again he's using ANOTHER sample that a N used a few years ago... But back to the song, The Clipse are on this joint doin a Run DMC styled back and fourth (ala thre $##% they did on the LAST CNN album that NOone bought)... Pusha begins the song with a story about his friend in jail and an old Spanish man seeing Fat Joe on TV... Sure. The beat on this joint is pretty dangerous, Fat Joe, usually a liability on ANY song, doesn't dissapoint... Cam's verse starts off pretty ******ed, gets stronger towards the end but its nothing to write home about... They should've just had Pusha & Malice spit their own verses...
4/5
Rappers Are In Danger
Remember when rappers used to make statements like this, but it was cause dudes thought they were lyrically superior to the point where they would end a dudes career... Fat Joe on the other hand sounds as if he's threatening the saftey of guys. Always good to hear a song with some scratches on it, the beat is pretty DOPE... This sounds like Fat Joe tried to write this himself, I guess that E1 budget can only get you ghostwriters for HALF the album...
3.5/5
Ha Ha (Slow Down)
The 1st single... the song I HATED... Then LOVED. Not much to say about this joint, its pretty much as good as it gets when it comes to Fat Joe... Production is EPIC... Fat Joe's ghostwriter was having a good day, and Young Jeezy was Young Jeezy... There\s really nothin more to say, if you don't feel this song you don't have a pulse.
4.75/5
If It Ain't About Money
The 2nd single?? I guess... I think an NTer (not named NinjaHood) predicted this would be a HIT, not sure if he was joking or not. Trey Songz is on this joint... First song that doesn't have that "Darkside" feel, sounds like a mix between "A Milli" and some $##% off Graduation... & I don't know HOW so I won't try to explain... But it works. This is actually a GOOD song, Trey Songz chorus is coo except for the Miami Heat-Lakers line... That was geh. I doubt it WILL be a HIT, but much like "Ha Ha" (Slow Down), it deffinetly deserves to be
: Goes to check out the video:
4.25/5
No Problems
I think I heard this beat before... Except Snoop Dogg was on it. Flava Flav sample @ the beggining... Public Enemy shout out in the 1st verse... This beat is DOPE... Fat Joe's ghostwriter deffinetly did his thing... Rico Love (who's obviously writing for Joe these days) shows up on the hook here, I guess he's not allowed to rap on tracks anymore after that "Aloha" joint went absolutely NOWHERE... As much as this sounds like "I Wanna Rock", its DOPE in its own right... I actually like this better.
4.5/5
How Did We Get Here
I guess he wants lightening to strike in the SAME place twice... R Kelly's on this joint. The production is DOPE... Kinda reminds me of "Pain" from the Above The Rim soundtrack... This is genuinly a REALLY good song. the rapping is good, the chorus is nice and the production is just flat out EPIC... I can't believe I like this album, I HATE myself.
4.75/5
Money Over *#+#+$*
How the hell is Fat Joe gettin all these DOPE beats?? Is he paying double what good rappers pay?? I couldn't imagine a producer that takes his career serious selling a beat to Joe opposed to a... Juelz Santana or someone like that. This $##% is smoother than some homeade pudding... Whoever TA is (prolly the other guy writing for him), he's pretty dope on here... Too Short comes through and does his thing.
4.25/5
Heavenly Father
Now for 11 tracks I've waited for a song to SUCK BALLS and it hasn't come up... Now here's a Lil Wayne feature... Fat Joe spits an introspective verse, and that IS one of his strong points, quiet as its kept... The hook is one of those cheesy prayers that you say so you don't go to hell if you die in your sleep... The production here, while NOT as good as the other $##% on here is still GOOD... The piano more or less makes the beat... I thought Wayne was gonna rap on here?? I guess E1 could ONLY afford him for the hook... Overall its a good introspective song, Joe spits some of his most persnal rhymes on the album on here... Its pretty heartfelt.
4/5
I'm Gone
Now how could I hate on a Preemo track?? I don't think I can... But once again I must say, how in the WORLD does Fat Joe have Preemo's number but Steadman & Nasir don't?? I commend Joe cause he ALWAYS jumps on a Preme track, he's NEVER been the best lyricist, but I've yet to hear him be his normnal wack self on a Preme track, he steps it up, this track is no different. Sounds like it could've been a bonus track on Jealous Ones Envy. GREAT track... He talks for about 4 minutes, about how he REALLY was a criminal before he started rapping... Carrying a gun to the ever so dangerous Grammy's...The type of stuff mothers are proud to hear about their sons... Goes on to shout out everyone he EVER met
5/5
At Last Supremecy
What happens when you put 2 WASHED up 90s rapper on the SAME track?? Well if you have a beat as good as this one, you get a DOPE song... I just knew there would be a GARBAGE song on here... A Busta Rhymes feature hightened the chances of this being the record, but this song is pretty good... The chorus is pretty bad tho. Busta just sounds WAAAAY too angry... His music SUCKING is no ones fault other than his old... I don't wanna here you yelling and soundin all violent.
4/5
Verdict:
Maybe my expectations were just SOO low for this joint, but this is a damn good album... As he says on "Last Supremecy" this is the "biggest comeback in rap" I wouldn't go this far, but from his last album to NOW, he (or his ghostwriters) deffinetly made a HUGE come up... I went into this album thinkin I wouldn't be able to make it through a full listen... No Lie... I brought back like 8 or 9 of the tracks ATLEAST once...
Lyrics have NEVER really been Fat Joe's strongest feat, I don't think theres anyone that can dispute that, but where he lacks lyrically he makes it up with a great choice of production, and knowing when and where to say what... That alone can go a long way. As I ALWAYS say, the difference between making a CLASSIC, a good album or a bad one is simply ones ability to tell a GOOD idea from a BAD one... & I must say, theres NO bad songs on this album. There's not even ANYthing close to being bad, every song is well worth ATLEAST one listen. I've made my thoughts on Fat Joe and his music quite clear, and to be honest I was more excited to hear this album because I KNEW it was gonna completely SUCK BALLS... Boy was I wrong.
So for the Fab's, Jadakiss's of the world, ONE more reason to be ashamed of yourself, Fat Joe has 1/5 the talent of these guys but this album is BETTER than their ENTIRE catalogs... Not only is this EASILY top 5 this year, I might even like this more than TML (for the moment ATLEAST)... This album is DOPE as hell... It's prolly not gonna change the world or ANYthing, but as I'm a STRONG believer of, "you're ONLY as good as your last album... " It almost pains me to think I have to judge Fat Joe by this album until his NEXT garbage album drops... But it is what it is, the man made a SOLID album...
Standout Tracks:
Vally Of Death
I Am CRACK
Ha Ha (Slow Down)
No Problems
How Did We Get Here
I'm Gone
Overall:
4.33/5
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Guess i got to cop, internet so damns low overseas here to download.
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Album is definitely better then teflon don.
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CRACK!
He REALLY kept up his end of the deal. Dude wasn't lying at ALL.
He REALLY kept up his end of the deal. Dude wasn't lying at ALL.
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info on the fitted
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Definitely didn't expect that. I was wondering when I'd hear a beat like that again. One of those beats that that make me reminisce.
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shouts to nay being an objective dude..i havent been a joey fan since don cartegena and im def impressed..
but to say it better than teflon don is farce..sorry lol
but to say it better than teflon don is farce..sorry lol
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put it track for track..its definitely better.
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this BETTER be good after all this hype from yall.
D/Ling now...
D/Ling now...
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Nay liked it
I better listen to this ASAP.
I better listen to this ASAP.
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of course it is
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*came to listen to Fat Joes interviews, not his music*
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Its alright. Worth the buy.
Slow Down > *
Slow Down > *
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Fat Joe usually annoys the hell outta me but this $#@! is hard.
my fav album of 2010 so far
my fav album of 2010 so far
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Fat Joe is WACK, he's been wack ever since Pun left. I haven't messed with his music since Pun passed. Me, Myself & I had some dope beats but still couldn't get into it. The way y'all are hyping this I'm a download it right now, if it's trash I'm a be tight
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Holllld up. Yall saying this is better than Me Myself and I?
if so
Sidenote Fat Joe's Production is like top 3 in the game. Hands Down.
if so
Sidenote Fat Joe's Production is like top 3 in the game. Hands Down.
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could very well be...matta fact imma just go ahead and say this better then me, myself, and I....its up there with jealous ones envy.Originally Posted by FinesseSosa
Holllld up. Yall saying this is better than Me Myself and I?
if so