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can we confirm who sold fakes and who didn't?
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can we confirm who sold fakes and who didn't?
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Originally Posted by riddla713
thats my pair, came from champs at burlington mall in mass. my friend copped a pair from vmvinc so we compared the 2 and the vmvinc pair is way off compared to my champs pair. the pods on the vmvinc pair are off white instead of the bright bold white on my pair. the overall color of the green nubuck is way off compared to my pair. also the stiching and the grooves on the bottom of the shoes do not match my pair from champs. on my champs pair, every groove on the bottom is either stright or comes to a perfect 90 degree angle, on the vmvinc pair the grooves at the top and bottom of each herringbone section do not make the 90 degree angle, they are curved, definite sign of variants or fakes. all my other recent retro 13's purchased from finishline have the same 90 degree angle im talking about. anybody with vmvinc pairs compare the grooves on the bottom with your recent retro 13's and you will easily see what im talking about, its the last groove before the white herringbone section meets the green sole. i mean if you guys are happy with your pairs from vmvinc thats all that matters, i will be sticking to only copping legitimate retail release pairs cause i just dont feel right rocking anything other than 100% authentic nike/jb product. and i agree with memphis, if nike didnt authorize it or sanction it, then its fake or variant imo. there are many other details of the vmvinc pair that are off or different compared to my champs pair, just to many differences for me to even consider then being authentic. maybe a couple of people got authentic rays from vmvinc, my friend on the other hand def received fakes or variants.
Originally Posted by sthebest
I dont know why people are in denial about their purchases from VMV INC. They did in fact sell a BUNCH of fake Freddy Kruger SB Dunks last year. Since it was done before, it can happen again. I'm quite certain the RA 13s on there were fake as well.
I hate to say it 160, but you probably got got.
Originally Posted by memphissfinest
Originally Posted by riddla713
thats my pair, came from champs at burlington mall in mass. my friend copped a pair from vmvinc so we compared the 2 and the vmvinc pair is way off compared to my champs pair. the pods on the vmvinc pair are off white instead of the bright bold white on my pair. the overall color of the green nubuck is way off compared to my pair. also the stiching and the grooves on the bottom of the shoes do not match my pair from champs. on my champs pair, every groove on the bottom is either stright or comes to a perfect 90 degree angle, on the vmvinc pair the grooves at the top and bottom of each herringbone section do not make the 90 degree angle, they are curved, definite sign of variants or fakes. all my other recent retro 13's purchased from finishline have the same 90 degree angle im talking about. anybody with vmvinc pairs compare the grooves on the bottom with your recent retro 13's and you will easily see what im talking about, its the last groove before the white herringbone section meets the green sole. i mean if you guys are happy with your pairs from vmvinc thats all that matters, i will be sticking to only copping legitimate retail release pairs cause i just dont feel right rocking anything other than 100% authentic nike/jb product. and i agree with memphis, if nike didnt authorize it or sanction it, then its fake or variant imo. there are many other details of the vmvinc pair that are off or different compared to my champs pair, just to many differences for me to even consider then being authentic. maybe a couple of people got authentic rays from vmvinc, my friend on the other hand def received fakes or variants.
AUTHENTIC RAY ALLEN 13'S WITH LEGIT RETAILER RECEIPT TO BACK IT UP. PROPS MAN.
NICE TO SEE THAT DUDES IN HERE ARE STARTING TO SEE THE LIGHT. CAN'T SAY THE SAME ABOUT CATS IN THE CONCORD THREAD. I GUESS IT'S BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T RECIEVED THEIR SHOES YET.
THEY GOING HARD IN THE CONCORD 11 THREAD DEFENDING THESE SITES. I DON'T KNOW WHY. PROBABLY BECAUSE ADMITTING TO THEMSELVES THAT THEY HAVE BEEN SPENDING HUNDREDS OR EVEN THOUSANDS IN SOME CASES ON B-GRADES/FAKES IS A TOUGH PILL TO SWALLOW. IT WAS FOR ME.
KINDA REMINDS ME OF THAT LINE MORPHEUS SAYS IN THE FIRST MATRIX, "PEOPLE ARE SO DEPENDENT ON THE SYSTEM, THAT THEY WILL FIGHT TO PROTECT IT"
I'M ALMOST 100% SURE WHY DUDES IN THERE HAVEN'T RECEIVED THEIR SHOES IS BECAUSE THESE SITES HAVE BEEN READING WHAT WE ARE SAYING ON HERE AND DELAYED SHIPMENT UNTIL A NEW BATCH WAS MADE (PROBABLY A LITTLE BETTER LOOKING THAN THE HORRIBLE ONES WE SAW POSTED) CUZ THEY KNOW PICS OF THAT FIRST SHIPMENT IS GONNA BE ALL OVER THIS SITE.
IF YOU ARE FINE WITH YOUR PAIRS GREAT BUT WHAT IRKS ME IS THAT THEY CHARGE OVER RETAIL FOR THESE BGRADES/SUPERFAKES WHEN IN FACT THEY AREN'T EVEN WORTH 50% OF RETAIL PRICE IMO. THESE SITES AREN'T NIKE, WHAT WE SAY ON HERE GREATLY AFFECTS THEIR OPERATION. THEY ARE COMPLETELY DEPENDENT ON THE FOOLS WHO THINK, "I GOTTA HAVE THESE EARLY TO STUNT"
Originally Posted by MR nike authentic
Originally Posted by sthebest
I dont know why people are in denial about their purchases from VMV INC. They did in fact sell a BUNCH of fake Freddy Kruger SB Dunks last year. Since it was done before, it can happen again. I'm quite certain the RA 13s on there were fake as well.
I hate to say it 160, but you probably got got.
Wish I had known about this before I made the wrong decision to order off them. It's also entirely possible that SOME forum members (prob not 160) who have been posting that these fake Rays "look good or are legit" are affiliated with or actually are the same companies VMVinc, Sneakerape etc...I'm sure they lurk and post here when needed. As for member 160, after Riddla713's post, the chances your pair or any pairs are actually real is highly unlikely and the fact he's still supportive of VMVinc is what keeps these shady companies alive. No hate intended 160 but sneakerheads need to know VMVinc sells fakes period.
VMV did send out some official pairs that are identical to the Boston pairs down to the white stitching under the insole. Im pretty sure The Surgeon got his from VMV too and he posted a pic of the white stitching. Another dude on ISS also got his pair from VMV and they also seem "official". But on the other hand there are some ppl who are complaining about their VMV pairs and have filed a dispute with paypal.Originally Posted by ohdannyboy
Originally Posted by MR nike authentic
Originally Posted by sthebest
I dont know why people are in denial about their purchases from VMV INC. They did in fact sell a BUNCH of fake Freddy Kruger SB Dunks last year. Since it was done before, it can happen again. I'm quite certain the RA 13s on there were fake as well.
I hate to say it 160, but you probably got got.
Wish I had known about this before I made the wrong decision to order off them. It's also entirely possible that SOME forum members (prob not 160) who have been posting that these fake Rays "look good or are legit" are affiliated with or actually are the same companies VMVinc, Sneakerape etc...I'm sure they lurk and post here when needed. As for member 160, after Riddla713's post, the chances your pair or any pairs are actually real is highly unlikely and the fact he's still supportive of VMVinc is what keeps these shady companies alive. No hate intended 160 but sneakerheads need to know VMVinc sells fakes period.
Sad thing is, 160 started vouching for these dudes in the quai 54 v thread. Talking about "tell them I sent you"like he has any type of influence with what they do.
IMO, these look like they originally started off as fake sneakers then added with real cf and the hologram on the sole.Originally Posted by MR nike authentic
Here is my contribution for all those that are on the fence aboutVMVinc. NT member 160.. congrats if youactually got a decent pair and if your happy then all the power to you and yesthe box did come with code # and sticker but that has minimal bearing if any onwhether I believe these VMVinc pairs are 100% authentic.
As more pictures surface of these variants or fakes and thegiven time I have, I only provided images from my actual VMVinc pairs that showwhat I think is significantly different than authentic pairs from HOH, NiketownBoston, and Solefly. Even on ebay thereare listings of the authentic Rays which are supported by receipts from thestore mentioned above if you are searching out difference in comparison to yourpair.
Sure Jordan Brand has poor quality control as demonstratedby the poor production of most retros since 1999-2000. But these VMVinc shoes I received are beyondjust the now familiar glue stains or minor creases here and there which we haveseen on the playoff XIIIs, so no I am not being picky. Please look carefully at the jumpman circlewhich is below the pod, on all four shoes, it looks as if some child tried tomake surgical incisions within the circle and messed up. It’s also supposed to be all green with nohints of white nevermind circular. Youcan judge for yourself and again I can’t speak for everyone who ordered fromVMVinc but more and more upset customers are sharing new images on the internetforums.
I rarely post but I had to come out of the woods to not justvent but more importantly warn other collectors that VMVinc has sold me fakeRays. For those in denial or disagree ormay have a better pair, congrats. I mademy purchase based on VMVinc’s statement that they sell 100% authentic shoes andthe images that were shown. I did notbase my purchase in that I may be expecting B grades or variants made with thesame materials stolen from an employee at the real factory, which by the waydoes not make them acceptable on my feet. *Bottom line is I’m not paying for shoes that come close to the originaland neither should you*
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mines arrived similar to yours and VMVinc is !***%*%%%#$+ and doesn't wanna give me my refundOriginally Posted by GreyFoxx
IMO, these look like they originally started off as fake sneakers then added with real cf and the hologram on the sole.Originally Posted by MR nike authentic
Here is my contribution for all those that are on the fence aboutVMVinc. NT member 160.. congrats if youactually got a decent pair and if your happy then all the power to you and yesthe box did come with code # and sticker but that has minimal bearing if any onwhether I believe these VMVinc pairs are 100% authentic.
As more pictures surface of these variants or fakes and thegiven time I have, I only provided images from my actual VMVinc pairs that showwhat I think is significantly different than authentic pairs from HOH, NiketownBoston, and Solefly. Even on ebay thereare listings of the authentic Rays which are supported by receipts from thestore mentioned above if you are searching out difference in comparison to yourpair.
Sure Jordan Brand has poor quality control as demonstratedby the poor production of most retros since 1999-2000. But these VMVinc shoes I received are beyondjust the now familiar glue stains or minor creases here and there which we haveseen on the playoff XIIIs, so no I am not being picky. Please look carefully at the jumpman circlewhich is below the pod, on all four shoes, it looks as if some child tried tomake surgical incisions within the circle and messed up. It’s also supposed to be all green with nohints of white nevermind circular. Youcan judge for yourself and again I can’t speak for everyone who ordered fromVMVinc but more and more upset customers are sharing new images on the internetforums.
I rarely post but I had to come out of the woods to not justvent but more importantly warn other collectors that VMVinc has sold me fakeRays. For those in denial or disagree ormay have a better pair, congrats. I mademy purchase based on VMVinc’s statement that they sell 100% authentic shoes andthe images that were shown. I did notbase my purchase in that I may be expecting B grades or variants made with thesame materials stolen from an employee at the real factory, which by the waydoes not make them acceptable on my feet. *Bottom line is I’m not paying for shoes that come close to the originaland neither should you*
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Originally Posted by memphissfinest
Originally Posted by riddla713
thats my pair, came from champs at burlington mall in mass. my friend copped a pair from vmvinc so we compared the 2 and the vmvinc pair is way off compared to my champs pair. the pods on the vmvinc pair are off white instead of the bright bold white on my pair. the overall color of the green nubuck is way off compared to my pair. also the stiching and the grooves on the bottom of the shoes do not match my pair from champs. on my champs pair, every groove on the bottom is either stright or comes to a perfect 90 degree angle, on the vmvinc pair the grooves at the top and bottom of each herringbone section do not make the 90 degree angle, they are curved, definite sign of variants or fakes. all my other recent retro 13's purchased from finishline have the same 90 degree angle im talking about. anybody with vmvinc pairs compare the grooves on the bottom with your recent retro 13's and you will easily see what im talking about, its the last groove before the white herringbone section meets the green sole. i mean if you guys are happy with your pairs from vmvinc thats all that matters, i will be sticking to only copping legitimate retail release pairs cause i just dont feel right rocking anything other than 100% authentic nike/jb product. and i agree with memphis, if nike didnt authorize it or sanction it, then its fake or variant imo. there are many other details of the vmvinc pair that are off or different compared to my champs pair, just to many differences for me to even consider then being authentic. maybe a couple of people got authentic rays from vmvinc, my friend on the other hand def received fakes or variants.
AUTHENTIC RAY ALLEN 13'S WITH LEGIT RETAILER RECEIPT TO BACK IT UP. PROPS MAN.
NICE TO SEE THAT DUDES IN HERE ARE STARTING TO SEE THE LIGHT. CAN'T SAY THE SAME ABOUT CATS IN THE CONCORD THREAD. I GUESS IT'S BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T RECIEVED THEIR SHOES YET.
THEY GOING HARD IN THE CONCORD 11 THREAD DEFENDING THESE SITES. I DON'T KNOW WHY. PROBABLY BECAUSE ADMITTING TO THEMSELVES THAT THEY HAVE BEEN SPENDING HUNDREDS OR EVEN THOUSANDS IN SOME CASES ON B-GRADES/FAKES IS A TOUGH PILL TO SWALLOW. IT WAS FOR ME.
KINDA REMINDS ME OF THAT LINE MORPHEUS SAYS IN THE FIRST MATRIX, "PEOPLE ARE SO DEPENDENT ON THE SYSTEM, THAT THEY WILL FIGHT TO PROTECT IT"
I'M ALMOST 100% SURE WHY DUDES IN THERE HAVEN'T RECEIVED THEIR SHOES IS BECAUSE THESE SITES HAVE BEEN READING WHAT WE ARE SAYING ON HERE AND DELAYED SHIPMENT UNTIL A NEW BATCH WAS MADE (PROBABLY A LITTLE BETTER LOOKING THAN THE HORRIBLE ONES WE SAW POSTED) CUZ THEY KNOW PICS OF THAT FIRST SHIPMENT IS GONNA BE ALL OVER THIS SITE.
IF YOU ARE FINE WITH YOUR PAIRS GREAT BUT WHAT IRKS ME IS THAT THEY CHARGE OVER RETAIL FOR THESE BGRADES/SUPERFAKES WHEN IN FACT THEY AREN'T EVEN WORTH 50% OF RETAIL PRICE IMO. THESE SITES AREN'T NIKE, WHAT WE SAY ON HERE GREATLY AFFECTS THEIR OPERATION. THEY ARE COMPLETELY DEPENDENT ON THE FOOLS WHO THINK, "I GOTTA HAVE THESE EARLY TO STUNT"
Originally Posted by FrenchBlue23
I have never bought and have never trusted these sites like VMV, SDS, and Air-Randy, and this thread as well as the Concord XI thread just solidifies that I will never ever buy from them.
Still hoping they re-release these at Niketown or HOH so I can be able to wear a pair.
good looks my dudeOriginally Posted by CAnthony15
It's unbelievable that so many ppl are on your nads 160. I've been just reading this thread since the release to see if any new news will surface about a re-release and all i see is people going in on this dude. Who cares if he got fakes or not he spent his own money not yours. If he's happy he's happy. Homie doesn't have to post pictures get off his Weinber. Bunch of people who have nothing more productive to do then worry about other ppl. Lock this damn thread up
Originally Posted by 160jordansdeep
Originally Posted by CAnthony15
It's unbelievable that so many ppl are on your nads 160. I've been just reading this thread since the release to see if any new news will surface about a re-release and all i see is people going in on this dude. Who cares if he got fakes or not he spent his own money not yours. If he's happy he's happy. Homie doesn't have to post pictures get off his Weinber. Bunch of people who have nothing more productive to do then worry about other ppl. Lock this damn thread up
i stand by what i saidOriginally Posted by akuratl02
Originally Posted by 160jordansdeep
Originally Posted by CAnthony15
It's unbelievable that so many ppl are on your nads 160. I've been just reading this thread since the release to see if any new news will surface about a re-release and all i see is people going in on this dude. Who cares if he got fakes or not he spent his own money not yours. If he's happy he's happy. Homie doesn't have to post pictures get off his Weinber. Bunch of people who have nothing more productive to do then worry about other ppl. Lock this damn thread up
Not exactly ... While, yes, some people are just coming @ you indirectly, there happen to be a few of us that do not have near the experience that you have in making judgement calls like this, when it comes to calling out fakes. Some of these pics show obvious flaws that even I know would notice, but in the big picture, if you keep claiming that your pair is real it gives these sites some legitimacy, that just might be unearned.
Regardless of the people coming @ your head .... We've all managed to at least put the information out there, so that people become aware of sites like these.
This is Nike/JB's fault if you ask me. This release had trouble written all over it, but nobody deserves to be scammed!