Air Jordan 6 retro “Carmine” - Nike Air - February 13, 2021

I had most of these before "The Last Dance" last year, so didn't pay the high prices after the show premiered.

You just have to rub it in, don't you 😄 I'm too embarrassed to say what I paid for the AJ4 Playoffs.

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Are these comfortable? They look great. So ahead of it's time for 1991.

I could totally see someone getting jacked for these back in the day. Without question. People would get killed or robbed for Starter caps. OG's remember.

A lot of it has to do with clothing and sneakers being a lot more expensive and less produced before the creation of NAFTA in 1993.
 
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Right....I call NT the 1% because the stakeholders are way more important than a bunch of people who are gonna buy the shoes no matter what...complain about them and still keep them.

Look at the Red Cement 3s for example. Im sure the Blk Cement and Red Cement were in the same room on the same table at Nike one point in time, they decided to give the non-OG colorway the correct elephant print because the Blk Cement will eventually return within the next few years "in true og form" , and that gives us a reason to buy them again. I guess its a good feeling to think your opinion matters, but honestly your $ matters more, so that's how you invoke change.


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Oh Leanord!

Right... how does a company keep stakeholders happy? By raising the stock price no.

How does the stock price go up > said company performs well by selling its product.

Who buys the product? Us, the consumers.

If the consumer isn't happy with a product they will not buy. Look at Coke when they changed their formula, consumers weren't happy with the product, company couldn't sell the product causing stock prices to drop. Coke quickly reversed course and went back to the OG formula.

Without us (the 1% as you say) the stakeholders wouldn't be happy because the retro line wouldn't be popular and less revenue for Nike causing a lower stock price.

Yes I realize Nike makes a ton of money selling other products besides retros, but most of their footwear sales comes from the retro Jordan line.

Look at the thriving sneaker threads on here Niketalk... Jordan's, Dunks, Air Max, Foamposite, NSW. Those all sell out instantly for the most part or not go on sale because there are enthusiasts that keep up with them and collectors buy them for the hobby I suppose.

I'm not complaining about the Carmines or any sneaker because I hardly keep up with them and only come around when OG's I want are releasing so I don't know about all that other retro plus BS.

I simply said they still haven't fixed the Nike Air sign on the back... which they haven't. It doesn't look as bad as the 4's last year but it's still noticeable.

I don't nitpick at all the other stuff guys do on here (specle density, etc.) because I don't see it as a big issue but I would never fault them for speaking their grievances about them.

Edit - those Maroon 6's above my post is how the Nike Air is supposed to be aligned on the back of 6's.

If you compare it to these Carmines releasing you can easily see the AIR is not aligned with the Nike above it on the Carmines. It's a small gripe but still noticeable.

I'm not sure which retro it was that started the alignment issue but I wish they would get it right.
 
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Oh Leanord!

Right... how does a company keep stakeholders happy? By raising the stock price no.

How does the stock price go up > said company performs well by selling its product.

Who buys the product? Us, the consumers.

If the consumer isn't happy with a product they will not buy. Look at Coke when they changed their formula, consumers weren't happy with the product, company couldn't sell the product causing stock prices to drop. Coke quickly reversed course and went back to the OG formula.

Without us (the 1% as you say) the stakeholders wouldn't be happy because the retro line wouldn't be popular and less revenue for Nike causing a lower stock price.

Yes I realize Nike makes a ton of money selling other products besides retros, but most of their footwear sales comes from the retro Jordan line.

Look at the thriving sneaker threads on here Niketalk... Jordan's, Dunks, Air Max, Foamposite, NSW. Those all sell out instantly for the most part or not go on sale because there are enthusiasts that keep up with them and collectors buy them for the hobby I suppose.

I'm not complaining about the Carmines or any sneaker because I hardly keep up with them and only come around when OG's I want are releasing so I don't know about all that other retro plus BS.

I simply said they still haven't fixed the Nike Air sign on the back... which they haven't. It doesn't look as bad as the 4's last year but it's still noticeable.

I don't nitpick at all the other stuff guys do on here (specle density, etc.) because I don't see it as a big issue but I would never fault them for speaking their grievances about them.

Edit - those Maroon 6's above my post is how the Nike Air is supposed to be aligned on the back of 6's.

If you compare it to these Carmines releasing you can easily see the AIR is not aligned with the Nike above it on the Carmines. It's a small gripe but still noticeable.

I'm not sure which retro it was that started the alignment issue but I wish they would get it right.

You make stakeholders happy by making them more money, making their stock value appreciat. They increased production numbers not because NT complained about not getting specific releases, they needed to increase market share. Period. They keep releasing the same shoes over and over with slight differences. You missing all the facts.
 
You make stakeholders happy by making them more money, making their stock value appreciat. They increased production numbers not because NT complained about not getting specific releases, they needed to increase market share. Period. They keep releasing the same shoes over and over with slight differences. You missing all the facts.


I'm not missing any facts I agree with some of what you're saying. I just explained how to make stakeholders happy and you're just repeating what I stated.

How do they sell those increased production numbers? Consumers have to buy the product no.

The product has to be popular to sell in the case of clothing and shoes.

Who makes the sneakers popular Leanord huh... who? We do Leanord, Niketalk and other enthusiasts alike spread out over social media and other boards. Look at stuff that sits and goes on sale or to outlets there is no thread on here for them and if there is its not that active or popular. How are those Jordan 1 mids Royal colorway selling, they're not because they're not popular so there is no demand for them.

Why are Jordan's still so popular today after all these years to these kids nowadays? They have no connection to Mike or anything they just know the newest Jordan releases are what's popular and will get them cool points in their high school hallways with their peers.

If places like Niketalk didn't exist the popularity of Jordan retros would drastically decline thus the demand for them would decline also resulting in low sales which in turn leads to less revenue which will then cause the stock price to fall.

And yes I do agree with them rehashing the same thing over and over again I don't know why you keep repeating it. If you owned a company with a product that sold well and was popular I would keep selling it too.

Clothing and shoes are different because it's about what's popular and trendy for the youth. When you're older it's what will last and affordable I suppose.

Look at all the many companies that came and went with style. Echo, Nautica, Hilfiger, phat farm, their sales are a fraction of what it used to be because they're not popular and trendy anymore. Only longevity had been Ralph Lauren, Jordan, and I suppose Supreme and North Face.

Nike is really good at running their business I don't know why you keep mentioning it. This whole back and forth is about changes to popular releases to make them better. If people didn't speak up we'd still have Jumpman Air, Jordan 11 mids, and all the other stuff we complained about on here.
 
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Such a legendary sneaker. Extremely underrated as it vaulted the Bulls into Dynasty status. Also one of the best AJ outsoles ever and the best interior lining, design-pattern of any Air Jordan sneaker.

We definitely need to drop a pair with the red tabs, I had some dye the tabs red but I think I’m gonna have it re-done.
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From this bunch, the white/cement 3 need a GR release before anything else, otherwise I choose white/infrared 6s.

BUT NO OG JORDAN NEEDS A RETRO BEFORE THESE!

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I would love nothing better than for Jordan Brand to drop a Nike Air White Infrared for this summer. It's the 30th Anniversary. The pattern is already cut and it's colorway is simple.
It may be too late now, or maybe it's a secret May release? Like the Bred 4 following the Infrared 6 in 2019?

By February 2019, did you fellas know that the Bred 4's would be out in May?
 
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It may be too late now, or maybe it's a secret May release? Like the Bred 4 following the Infrared 6 in 2019?

By February 2019, did you fellas know that the Bred 4's would be out in May?
Say what? Word about that retro was going around more than a year before it released. Nothing secret about it :rofl:
 
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You just have to rub it in, don't you 😄 I'm too embarrassed to say what I paid for the AJ4 Playoffs.

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Are these comfortable? They look great. So ahead of it's time for 1991.

I could totally see someone getting jacked for these back in the day. Without question. People would get killed or robbed for Starter caps. OG's remember.

A lot of it has to do with clothing and sneakers being a lot more expensive and less produced before the creation of NAFTA in 1993.

Honestly, no one gave a crap about those maroon sixes in 1991. Same with the white/sport blues or whatever they were called.
As for people getting jacked ... that still happens. It’s just an “old” story the media doesn’t cover weekly. It got all the coverage back in the day because it was a shocking new phenomenon. Today, it doesn’t surprise anyone.
Going by inflation, it’s true a lot of the shoes were more expensive than now. But not by a huge margin. On the flipside, it’s about 100 times more difficult to get them now than it was back then, so the supply part had nothing to do with it. You could buy pretty much any colorway of any Jordan months after it released, often on big sale if you waited it out long enough. Speaking specifically of the VI, my friend got the white/infrareds months later for like $70. That’s how “hard” they were to come by lol.
The OG Concord XI release in November '95 was the first time I ever saw a Jordan sell out quickly in stores in my area and not get restocked. Then, the OG black/red XI release that spring was the first time I ever saw people waiting outside of Footlocker for it to open so they could buy the shoes. The only reason I went there at opening to buy them is because of what happened with the Concords. And it blew my mind there were 12 other people there lined up with me. That’s how unprecedented that was in 1995-96. Buying shoes and the interest in them was a different planet compared to now.
 
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