Air Jordan IV “Black/Cement” - May 4th 2019

Boy, are you optimistic. I hope you're right.

I can't see them being any different than all these UA pairs we're seeing. 4's have been trash for the past 20 years shape/material-wise. Why would JB magically change this now?

Why would they magically fix the Concord 11 and Infrared 6?
 
Infra 6s and concords didn't seem to have as many issues. From the dmp to the 2011 to the 2018. From the 2000 to the infra pack to the 2014 to the 2019. They were relatively fine. 2011s had issues, however low cuts shape, height and toe box were remastered easily with the 2016 sj. 2015 maroon 6s (terms of shape etc) changed from the 2014 infra 23s.

The last 2 blk cement 4 since the 99 (08 cdp and 2012) basically were crap. The 4 in general hasnt been the same since 99 (including 99 oreos and columbias).

Shape/mold
air unit
wings height
heel tab
Toebox
Tongue
Many things

Remastered Columbia's and Oreos are prolly different or improved, I don't have those.
 
Why would they magically fix the Concord 11 and Infrared 6?

Who knows. Maybe 11's and 6's are easier to make adjustments to. Like I said and as someone said above, the 4's haven't been 'fixed' since 1999. I feel like with the 4's to be fixed, it would have to be a drastic change to the mold/shape, and we all know that's not going to happen.
 
Not gonna happen, people said the same/similar thing in the Infrared 6 thread...and the SECOND real pics started to surface...well...if you were in that thread you know what happened.

The Concord and Infrared's both came correct so I'm pretty sure that a majority of us will be satisfied with this release.

You’re definitely embellishing at this point. You have to remember we’re not in the early 00’s anymore with the flea market fakes and Spongebob Js. I bought a fake pair of these off of a seller to compare to the final release of these shoes because of this conversation regarding Jordan’s quality control lately. I’ll be more than willing to share the pics on here without any buying info just so we can see just how “different” the retails will actually be.
 
You’re definitely embellishing at this point. You have to remember we’re not in the early 00’s anymore with the flea market fakes and Spongebob Js. I bought a fake pair of these off of a seller to compare to the final release of these shoes because of this conversation regarding Jordan’s quality control lately. I’ll be more than willing to share the pics on here without any buying info just so we can see just how “different” the retails will actually be.
I don't believe I'm embellishing anything. Every pic of UA's etc before actual retail pics surfaced was bashed and many essentially said "pay those no mind they're the UA's,let's wait on real retail pics" And once the retail pics hit a vast majority of people in that thread were very pleased. There are of course those who were not satisfied for whatever the reason and that's fine, I don't expect everyone to like the final Nike product. But the overwhelming majority? Pretty sure they were happy with both the 11's and 6's.

And to your UA point...yes defnitely the UA's have gotten EXTREMELY good. So no need to share pics because I believe you, I'm sure they're super close and hell there might even be a detail or 2 that actually outshines the retail pairs. But OVERALL being a better quality in craftsmanship, materials, shape etc? I'm not sold, but I don't have to be if you are, it's all good. My main point here is the same as it was in the Infrared thread...I don't expect perfection, there are going to be imperfect things like maybe the shape isn't 99 or OG, but I would rather have these in the collection to replace my badly chipping 2012 pair, with improved materials, midsole, and paint job than nitpick the release. I lived through the first releases of J's since the 1, I'm happy ANY pair close to the OG with Nike Air is back around for us to grab.
 
I do not see anything wrong with this shoe. Nothing.

If you’re lookin' for your J’s to replace your steel toe boots at work you got a point.

54800404_2359748994037213_1999787274457826603_n.jpg

53352912_2186137948129923_6218964008336553747_n.jpg


This is the same UA pair, from above. What's wrong is what's been wrong with ALL 4's after 2000. The height is too low, and the wings are TOO DAMN FAR AWAY, from the heel tabs. The extra stitching also makes it look even worse.

53352912_2186137948129923_6218964008336553747_n+.jpg


The height needs to be higher, and the wings need to be moved back to about to where I marked, in the pic above. Plus, the toe box is SUPER steel toe boot like. I can deal with that, but the lower height, continuous incorrect wing placement, irks me to NO end. It ***** the entire look of the shoe up.

If the retail build of them are like in the pic below.

VVVV


Air-Jordan-4-Bred-2019.png


With the durabuck, and tongue on the UA's further up, I'll be more than satisfied.

 

Attachments

  • Air-Jordan-4-Bred-2019.png
    Air-Jordan-4-Bred-2019.png
    839.6 KB · Views: 9
  • 53352912_2186137948129923_6218964008336553747_n+.jpg
    53352912_2186137948129923_6218964008336553747_n+.jpg
    183.6 KB · Views: 10
Last edited:
Yeah the sole actually looks like it’s not curling up like an elf shoe. Proper slant on that toebox

I agree with man 100%, but the wing placement kills it ALL. The entire shoe man. I mean everything. Just look HARD at those pictures. It's absolutely asinine, and ATROCIOUS.
 
C54589E0-B015-4557-B62C-6E087D5B743A.jpeg
05C3EE76-689C-4E9A-840F-DE15FA9297E0.jpeg
9E8F0F3B-CA85-451A-99B5-CF38FB9A74FC.jpeg


So these are stills from the site on the YouTube video. Definitely fake but man they did a great job on the toe box. If JB can muster this up I’m in.
C54589E0-B015-4557-B62C-6E087D5B743A.jpeg
05C3EE76-689C-4E9A-840F-DE15FA9297E0.jpeg
9E8F0F3B-CA85-451A-99B5-CF38FB9A74FC.jpeg


So these are stills from the site on the YouTube video. Definitely fake but man they did a great job on the toe box. If JB can muster this up I’m in.



you should know by now we have endured so much pain and scrutiny.... I'd say ****(lol) take the Nike Air and durabuck before they give us ashy Larry and jumpman!!!!!!!!
 
we were always getting the wrong end of the stick now we get durabuck...... some of you young folks have no idea how much I would pay for a durabuck retro back then and its here!!!!!! TOOK YEARS !!!!!!! stock up!!!
 
Back
Top Bottom