Air Jordan IV - "Laser" 30th Anniversary 705333-105

 
For Lent I gave up Clear Icy Soles. So I'm gonna have to pass.  
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The drop next week according to the paper advertising the raffle at champs is a quick strike drop.
 
250 should be RESALE, not retail. and that sole is gonna look terrible in no time. pretty sure i'ma pass on these. if i was gonna cop a pair of lasers out of the 3 so far, these woulda been it.
LOL.. so you're cool with resellers eating up the pairs at $190 and selling them for $250, but if Jordan does it then that's bad? 
 
250 should be RESALE, not retail. and that sole is gonna look terrible in no time. pretty sure i'ma pass on these. if i was gonna cop a pair of lasers out of the 3 so far, these woulda been it.


LOL.. so you're cool with resellers eating up the pairs at $190 and selling them for $250, but if Jordan does it then that's bad? 

what logic is this? resellers is the worse case price so why want the originally seller to be more expensive? that makes no sense.
 
what logic is this? resellers is the worse case price so why want the originally seller to be more expensive? that makes no sense.
Why would someone be ok paying $250 to a reseller but not to Jordan.  The logic is that everyone who has supported a reseller in the past and continues to support resellers today have created the $250 price themselves.  Jordan doesn't want to leave crumbs on the table so they will go get it themselves.

Make your bed now sleep in it.
 
what logic is this? resellers is the worse case price so why want the originally seller to be more expensive? that makes no sense.


Why would someone be ok paying $250 to a reseller but not to Jordan.  The logic is that everyone who has supported a reseller in the past and continues to support resellers today have created the $250 price themselves.  Jordan doesn't want to leave crumbs on the table so they will go get it themselves.

Make your bed now sleep in it.

unless you are getting a cut of JB profits then simple economics says you want the starting point to be the lowest possible number from a consumer perspective.
in addition, i am not paying a reseller for every release therefore, i would rather pay the lowest number possible before looking at the after market.

it makes absolutely no sense to say "hey, id rather over pay JB 10 times out of 10 because I'm not buying from a reseller" than to say hey... i had to pay $250 ONCE this year because i couldn't secure my pair.

ultimately, it shouldn't matter WHO you buy the shoes from. Its the total that YOU are actually paying.

your argument isn't that of a consumer but as the one receiving the profits. doesn't make sense.
 
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Why would someone be ok paying $250 to a reseller but not to Jordan.  The logic is that everyone who has supported a reseller in the past and continues to support resellers today have created the $250 price themselves.  Jordan doesn't want to leave crumbs on the table so they will go get it themselves.

Make your bed now sleep in it.

Not everyone here made that bed; and your logic is flawed because there would be people copping successfully at $190.
 
ultimately, it shouldn't matter WHO you buy the shoes from. Its the total that YOU are actually paying.
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This same thing goes for folks justifying what the reseller makes after fees and shipping. I keep trying to explain all that dont matter while youre worried about the reseller only making 20-30 after fees, you who bought the shoes still paid $75 over retail :lol:

But they dont ever get that part
 
Got 2 pairs on lock. This should be easy for anyone not in a major city flooded with resellers. Most casual sneaker buyers don't know these even exists.
 
unless you are getting a cut of JB profits then simple economics says you want the starting point to be the lowest possible number from a consumer perspective.
in addition, i am not paying a reseller for every release therefore, i would rather pay the lowest number possible before looking at the after market.

it makes absolutely no sense to say "hey, id rather over pay JB 10 times out of 10 because I'm not buying from a reseller" than to say hey... i had to pay $250 ONCE this year because i couldn't secure my pair.

ultimately, it shouldn't matter WHO you buy the shoes from. Its the total that YOU are actually paying.

your argument isn't that of a consumer but as the one receiving the profits. doesn't make sense.
It does make sense.  You are looking at it from one side, Im looking at it from my point and the point of the business.

You are asking for your cake and to eat it too.  If you support resellers and JB see's that money going to them, they will raise the price.  You cant be half in and only pay resell sometimes and not expect it to impact the retail price YOU are paying.
 
unless you are getting a cut of JB profits then simple economics says you want the starting point to be the lowest possible number from a consumer perspective.

in addition, i am not paying a reseller for every release therefore, i would rather pay the lowest number possible before looking at the after market.


it makes absolutely no sense to say "hey, id rather over pay JB 10 times out of 10 because I'm not buying from a reseller" than to say hey... i had to pay $250 ONCE this year because i couldn't secure my pair.


ultimately, it shouldn't matter WHO you buy the shoes from. Its the total that YOU are actually paying.


your argument isn't that of a consumer but as the one receiving the profits. doesn't make sense.


It does make sense.  You are looking at it from one side, Im looking at it from my point and the point of the business.

You are asking for your cake and to eat it too.  If you support resellers and JB see's that money going to them, they will raise the price.  You cant be half in and only pay resell sometimes and not expect it to impact the retail price YOU are paying.

I am looking at it from a CONSUMER point of view. I AM A CONSUMER. I WANT THE LOWEST PRICE POSSIBLE. You are a CONSUMER. Why are you looking at it from a BUSINESS prospective as if you are PROFITING from jordans sales? You too are a CONSUMER so how can you even justify things.

And how can i not be half in? Not every release drops near me and i understand that. You really dont get it man.... you really dont :smh:
 
 
 
unless you are getting a cut of JB profits then simple economics says you want the starting point to be the lowest possible number from a consumer perspective.

in addition, i am not paying a reseller for every release therefore, i would rather pay the lowest number possible before looking at the after market.


it makes absolutely no sense to say "hey, id rather over pay JB 10 times out of 10 because I'm not buying from a reseller" than to say hey... i had to pay $250 ONCE this year because i couldn't secure my pair.


ultimately, it shouldn't matter WHO you buy the shoes from. Its the total that YOU are actually paying.


your argument isn't that of a consumer but as the one receiving the profits. doesn't make sense.

It does make sense.  You are looking at it from one side, Im looking at it from my point and the point of the business.

You are asking for your cake and to eat it too.  If you support resellers and JB see's that money going to them, they will raise the price.  You cant be half in and only pay resell sometimes and not expect it to impact the retail price YOU are paying.
I am looking at it from a CONSUMER point of view. I AM A CONSUMER. I WANT THE LOWEST PRICE POSSIBLE. You are a CONSUMER. Why are you looking at it from a BUSINESS prospective as if you are PROFITING from jordans sales? You too are a CONSUMER so how can you even justify things.

And how can i not be half in? Not every release drops near me and i understand that. You really dont get it man.... you really dont
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I'm in the same boat. I live in South Georgia, where we never get anything but GR shoes. My only options to cop are the Laser 4s are NDC, the SNKRS app, and maybe some Euro sites, or I'm SOL. I would love for them to had retailed for $190, because if I struck out I would have to pay a reseller $250, more a little more. If Jordan always released at $250, that only means I would have to pay resellers even more. At this point in the game, higher retail prices aren't scaring resellers away, only just raising the prices on the secondary market for consumers like me. The thought of giving my money to JB directly rather than resellers is crazy, because that obviously means a raise in box price.... and that's a NO GO!!!  
 
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I'm in the same boat. I live in South Georgia, where we never get anything but GR shoes. My only options to cop are the Laser 4s are NDC, the SNKRS app, and maybe some Euro sites, or I'm SOL. I would love for them to had retailed for $190, because if I struck out I would have to pay a reseller $250, more a little more. If Jordan always released at $250, that only means I would have to pay resellers even more. At this point in the game, higher retail prices aren't scaring resellers away, only just raising the prices on the secondary market for consumers like me. The thought of giving my money to JB directly rather than resellers is crazy, because that obviously means a raise in box price.... and that's a NO GO!!!  

Yeah. im wondering if we are gonna see a point where the resellers run out of gas / money for a min bc there's so much stuff sitting on eBay at basically retail or $10 over retail that these guys are holding on too. They need to liquidate their money to keep things moving. Since the price hikes u see so many resellers flipping shoes at flat out retail price. Is the new hustle flipping kicks for free FTL coupons??? Lmao
 
Yeah. im wondering if we are gonna see a point where the resellers run out of gas / money for a min bc there's so much stuff sitting on eBay at basically retail or $10 over retail that these guys are holding on too. They need to liquidate their money to keep things moving. Since the price hikes u see so many resellers flipping shoes at flat out retail price. Is the new hustle flipping kicks for free FTL coupons??? Lmao


Have u ever been to a sneaker show or sneaker con?

Most shoes are in possession of these people. Multiple pair of the same size, FSR of lots of models
 
I am looking at it from a CONSUMER point of view. I AM A CONSUMER. I WANT THE LOWEST PRICE POSSIBLE. You are a CONSUMER. Why are you looking at it from a BUSINESS prospective as if you are PROFITING from jordans sales? You too are a CONSUMER so how can you even justify things.

And how can i not be half in? Not every release drops near me and i understand that. You really dont get it man.... you really dont
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I get it, I really do.  I think it's you that don't.  Im a realistic consumer, if I want to keep my head in the sand I would wish that these retros still cost $150 instead of $190 or $250.  Go ahead and support resellers and you will continue to see Nike as a business increase their price.

I don't like paying these prices as much as the next person, but take off your rose color glasses and see the real reason things are the way they are.  And as long as you as a consumer who doesn't get every release continues to feed the resellers at a premium, Jordan as the company will continue to raise their prices.

You keep capitalizing CONSUMER, BUSINESS and PROFIT to try making a point, and make it appear as though Im unable to understand but it really is the other way around.  The crappy thing is, most people don't even realize they are the ones who have killed the hobby.
 
Yeah. im wondering if we are gonna see a point where the resellers run out of gas / money for a min bc there's so much stuff sitting on eBay at basically retail or $10 over retail that these guys are holding on too. They need to liquidate their money to keep things moving. Since the price hikes u see so many resellers flipping shoes at flat out retail price. Is the new hustle flipping kicks for free FTL coupons??? Lmao
starve them.  don't even pay retail from a reseller. let them realize their losses and think twice about trying this 'hustle'.  Then and only then will things start going back to the good old days
 
Some serious issues man. Not even gonna comment anymore. JB has people talking like they get their profit margins :smh:

resellers have always existed in every industry.
 
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