Amazon's HQ2 Probably Headed to Northern Virginia (Crystal City)

[diego]

People don't agree with you on this, and you are not making a good case, just trying to claim some expertise while saying everyone else is being irrational.

Thing is that the numbers show people don’t agree with YOU on this.
Why you keep disregarding this?

If your argument is founded on looking out for locals and the community but locals AND the community say they wanted it, why you disregard it?

I will agree with you guys on this, Amazon acted like complete ******* and backed out at the first bit of backlash.
His penis scandal may have helped rush the decision.
I’m all for closing tax loopholes. No reason why this monster company should be getting away with not paying taxes.
Just don’t think this lesson needed to be at the expense of NY.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Again, what is your logic here?
You think the top CEOs are going to live across the street from the building?

That community has already changed man.
Why aren’t dudes getting this?

Real talk, when was the last time you were in LIC?

His logic is basic economics. Why can't you understand this?

If you experience a large increase in wages in an area it causes inflation, especially in housing prices. If the housing stock doesn't keep up, and it won't because it is NY where there is already supply issues, then that bids up the price of available housing units. If people can't raise their wages enough to afford the higher prices, they get priced out of the area.

People that could barely afford the area now can't

People that could reasonably afford it, now barley can

People that could comfortably afford it, now only reasonably can

And so on. People that don't see a jump in their wages now have to deal with a higher portion of the paycheck going to housing.

It doesn't matter if it is transplants or not. (But with Amazon, there will be a ton of transplants) Amazon and the employee they will bring is such a shock to the housing market it will price a lot of people out of the area.

Look and Seattle, look at San Fran. This is a legit economic concern an people like you just make the argument against Amazon stronger because the refuse to acknowledge the unintended consequences of having an Amazon in you city will to some residents.

 

[Mr Dink]

Again, what is your logic here?
You think the top CEOs are going to live across the street from the building?

That community has already changed man.
15-20 years ago that whole area was industrial.
Now it’s full of high rises.

Real talk, when was the last time you were in LIC?

I don't know what's so hard to understand. Top CEOs are making millions, the average employee at Amazon make 125-150k. The average median in LIC is 56k. Imagine that and all the surrounding cities doubling and the ripple effect that will cause.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Thing is that the numbers show people don’t agree with YOU on this.
Why you keep disregarding this?

If your argument is founded on looking out for locals and the community but locals AND the community say they wanted it, why you disregard it?

When was the last time you were in LIC?

I am find with people not disagreeing with me, I will still have my concerns about a potential housing crisis because economics and history backs me up.

If people want Amazon, find, but let us not lie to ourselves to what it will do to the affordability in the area.

So if most of the residents wanted this. The ones that don't need to shut up? Or even the ones that are find with Amazon coming but want NYC and Amazon to address the housing issue, should they hush too?

Was there a consensus of support for Amazon? If so how did activist, local officials, and AOC even make headway on this if they was not backing from some locals?

If there was such overwhelming support, why did Amazon leave? Because they claimed they couldn't work in those conditions, yet you are claiming locals wanted this.

 

[RustyShackleford]

I don't know what's so hard to understand. Top CEOs are making millions, the average employee at Amazon make 125-150k. The average median in LIC is 56k. Imagine that and all the surrounding cities doubling and the ripple effect that will cause.

Famb criticized us about not being capitalist. But his hang up to understanding our argument is that he can't apply the law of supply and demand to this situation.

One of the reasons Amazon split the location and made it seem like the jobs would come incrementally is to alleviate fears of a housing crisis. But when people still pressed them about it, they want to act like they are being unreasonable.

 

[heatpinoyboy]

Amazon will not hire locals at the level you think...Big tech companies in the Bay arent even 50% “locals”...and we have berkeley/stanford/CALtech as staples of the tech talent market. Fact is...talent will be taken from any market and there wont be enough in the area to supply 25,000 full time amazon employees. Amazon/FB/Google/Microsoft all shooting to hire outta the same talent pool and a majority will be from folks outsideNY. I work in big tech and these are just my opinions on staffing at that level. U cant scale by hiring a majority from one geographical location

 

[diego]

Maybe we should put up a wall. Keep all the transplants out.

 

[heatpinoyboy]

Maybe we should put up a wall. Keep all the transplants out.

Na lol dont gotta take it there. Just think that this idea of hiring conentrated with the locals when talking about that 25,000 hiring figure is a bit skewed

 

[ninjahood]

Ninja is so hung up over "da community" he still doesn't understand what a 6 figure median in his local town will cause.

we're New York Effin city b...we can handle money & big business..but eff what people who actually live here think, clueless socialist politicans jockeying for brownie points in an election year know betta then da folks they're supposed to represent

 

[ninjahood]

Real talk, when was the last time you were in LIC?

dudes in here is frauds b.

you know where that upper class workforce would've plunked down? those shiny new towers along da river that continue to go up as we speak, you know where that tax base would've got spent on? all da local neighborhood school that minority leadership loves to cry about how there isn't enough funding for....

Long Island City has always been historically industrial...NO ONE lived in long island city outside da queensbridge houses (which is protected by NYCHA)

i worked in da LIC area for years..i know what's poppin..
Maspeth is da next hood over, you know what's there? factories and more warehouses.

Na lol dont gotta take it there. Just think that this idea of hiring conentrated with the locals when talking about that 25,000 hiring figure is a bit skewed

that was over a 10 yr span.

 

[blastercombo]

Amazon themselves knew they were about to **** things up and backed out to save face. Case closed. All the back and forth Is for nothing.

 

[ninjahood]

 

[ninjahood]

 

[ninjahood]

diego

 

[diego]

This is a good thing though...
Now that Amazon is not coming to NY, we can all afford million dollar luxury apartments in LIC.

 

[krazy88s]

didn't know not one train runs thru Maspeth

 

[ninjahood]

This is a good thing though...
Now that Amazon is not coming to NY, we can all afford million dollar luxury apartments in LIC.

biting sarcasm there

didn't know not one train runs thru Maspeth

there's New Yorkers that only take trains, then there's NYers that drive...Maspeth is foreign to straphangers, its basically all industrial like Long island city was before da luxury tower boom due to da zoning changes.

2 years from now da idiots to scared Amazon away gonna have hell to pay.

 

[Nike Jordan]

Socialize the costs, privatize the profits.

Capitalism.

 

[ninjahood]

 

[alchemist iq]

 

[johnnyredstorm]

biting sarcasm there



there's New Yorkers that only take trains, then there's NYers that drive...Maspeth is foreign to straphangers, its basically all industrial like Long island city was before da luxury tower boom due to da zoning changes.

2 years from now da idiots to scared Amazon away gonna have hell to pay.

You realize Maspeth has plenty more houses and normal neighborhood life than factories right? Basically an entire neighborhood east of Maurice.

 

[ninjahood]

You realize Maspeth has plenty more houses and normal neighborhood life than factories right?

it doesn't, i worked around there for 4 years... residential spots are sparsely scattered.

you take da Kosciuszko Bridge before you hit da 287 interstate and its a birdseye view on da entire neighborhood, and its majority industrial.

 

[ninjahood]

 

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[shogun]

Her boobs looking nice and plump.