Andrew Tate. DONE.

[jape]

Young men sure af don’t have social skills. My wife knows this younger guy from work, seems cool enough so she introduced him to our mutual friend and they went on a date.

Dude trauma bombed her the whole date and still texts her acting like that.

what is trauma bombed?

 

[WASHED KING]

what is trauma bombed?

Meets a girl and immediately starts talking about past relationships, how he has trust issues, been cheated on etc.

Basically woe is me, can I get some sympathy yambs please? I'm a nice guy.

 

[oidreez]

Society has/is changing and men aren't. That's the root of all these problems. You still got cornball *** dudes wanting to be Spartans and go back to when men could be real men. I can see these dudes one day pushing 60+ still going to the clubs and screaming at women half their age about "the wall" if they don't settle for a good catch such as themselves. It's gonna be sad.

Tate doesn't even really matter cause there will be 100 more like him pop up trying to get that grift money.

I just dont buy these types of responses. How do you determine that "men are cornballs" is the root of modern dating/marriage?

 

[Air Champa]

How do you determine that "men are cornballs" is the root of modern dating/marriage?

Because they want to go back to the "good old days" which ain't happening. Those good old days were only really good for one specific demographic anyways.

 

[tokes99]

Society has/is changing and men aren't. That's the root of all these problems. You still got cornball *** dudes wanting to be Spartans and go back to when men could be real men. I can see these dudes one day pushing 60+ still going to the clubs and screaming at women half their age about "the wall" if they don't settle for a good catch such as themselves. It's gonna be sad.

Tate doesn't even really matter cause there will be 100 more like him pop up trying to get that grift money.

arguably the concept of monogamy is more beneficial for men in general than women in general, and as much as society is/has changed the things that attract us are not necessarily keeping pace, such that men & women generally find the same things as attractive today as we always have…one of men’s tools was ability to acquire/create resources in excess, obviously this still matters but as women can & do support themselves this makes raises that threshold such that most men will not be able to meet it…women’s ability to earn generally hasn’t made them less discerning (in terms of relationships, altho sexually it could definitely be true)

so the question for men today is what other things make them attractive to women such that there is a greater possibility for a sustainable relationship? unfortunately it does seem that finance plays an outsized part of how women deem men attractive in long term, women will talk around this in casual discussion but if you dig into it they often reveal this by implication…

 

[finessence]

arguably the concept of monogamy is more beneficial for men in general than women in general, and as much as society is/has changed the things that attract us are not necessarily keeping pace, such that men & women generally find the same things as attractive today as we always have…one of men’s tools was ability to acquire/create resources in excess, obviously this still matters but as women can & do support themselves this makes raises that threshold such that most men will not be able to meet it…women’s ability to earn generally hasn’t made them less discerning (in terms of relationships, altho sexually it could definitely be true)

so the question for men today is what other things make them attractive to women such that there is a greater possibility for a sustainable relationship? unfortunately it does seem that finance plays an outsized part of how women deem men attractive in long term, women will talk around this in casual discussion but if you dig into it they often reveal this by implication…

Presidente Supermarket co-FOUNDER is on a trial for a murder for hire plot. His wife was having an affair. He hired 3 dudes to kill her outside lover. Which they were successful in doing.

Long story short, money, wealth, etc will not prevent a woman from cheating. Just like men, women are going to do what they want. No amount of money in a world will prevent a man/woman from being who they primally are….

Jeff Bezos… Tiger Woods… Babyface, all have been divorced. Money is not the end all, be all. At the end of the day, humans can’t fight their urges. No matter what society or human conditioning practices are present, you can’t fight your urges.

 

[finessence]

unfortunately it does seem that finance plays an outsized part of how women deem men attractive in long term, women will talk around this in casual discussion but if you dig into it they often reveal this by implication…

This is why men should get with women who have their OWN money. Then, all the financial rigmarole and confusion goes out the window.

If a woman is broke, lazy, or isn’t an earner, of course she’s going to go the highest bidder. It doesn’t matter how he looks. He could be overweight, have bad hygiene, no redeeming physical qualities, but if he’s financially able to take care of her, that’s who she’ll latch on too.

Women who have their own money really can be picky.

 

[tr1ll]

Seem to me GENERALIZATION is the actual problem. “Men” this, “Men” that. All men aren’t the same. And we know who likes to generalize.

 

[wayniac211]

Society has/is changing and men aren't. That's the root of all these problems. You still got cornball *** dudes wanting to be Spartans and go back to when men could be real men. I can see these dudes one day pushing 60+ still going to the clubs and screaming at women half their age about "the wall" if they don't settle for a good catch such as themselves. It's gonna be sad.

Tate doesn't even really matter cause there will be 100 more like him pop up trying to get that grift money.

stop acting like we can’t be 300 spartan wavy and still be respectful towards women.

 

[finessence]

Seem to me GENERALIZATION is the actual problem. “Men” this, “Men” that. All men aren’t the same. And we know who likes to generalize.

Exactly. I’m all for my girl making more bread then me. I’m all for her having girls not out, or going on trips with her homegirls. I’ve always had a side eye at men who try and control women.

It’s dudes out here who will stalk, or a call a woman’s phone 100+ times in ONE day. That’s psychotic

 

[Rootin4EverybodyBlack]

I wouldn’t say the problems with modern dating is just cornball dudes. Social media in general has screwed up expectations from men and women and you have these “relationship experts” and podcast idiots furthering ridiculous narratives that make it even worse.

Everybody needs to come back down to reality. It’s fine to have “standards”, but if they’re all superficial and nobody meets them, you’re probably the issue.

 

[calibeebee]

Congrats to your girl for doubling her pay, she’s killing it.

But yeah I don’t get it, I’m not paying the bills all by myself. Hell no, you wanna live in a dump and drive a dodge neon?

My wife is super career oriented and I’m not. Naturally she just wants to make more money by working harder, looking good and moving up the ladder.

I just look for the highest hourly pay for the easiest job.

Dodge neon got me

 

[tokes99]

Seem to me GENERALIZATION is the actual problem. “Men” this, “Men” that. All men aren’t the same. And we know who likes to generalize.

i get it but generalizing is how we navigate in the world it would be overwhelming & inefficient not to, obviously the more one deals with a specific person/situation the less generalizations will matter as you have more exposure/information.

Presidente Supermarket co-FOUNDER is on a trial for a murder for hire plot. His wife was having an affair. He hired 3 dudes to kill her outside lover. Which they were successful in doing.

Long story short, money, wealth, etc will not prevent a woman from cheating. Just like men, women are going to do what they want. No amount of money in a world will prevent a man/woman from being who they primally are….

Jeff Bezos… Tiger Woods… Babyface, all have been divorced. Money is not the end all, be all. At the end of the day, humans can’t fight their urges. No matter what society or human conditioning practices are present, you can’t fight your urges.

i don’t think humans in general are strictly monogamous, men & women both cheat, in fact women will have way more opportunities to do so; it is just that women have more immediate consequence to their promiscuity & have to put themselves in vulnerable position to be available thus they are or at least tend to be more selective as a result…whether a man/woman has money doesn’t change this, i don’t think money automatically makes men attractive but not having it definitely puts a man at disadvantage comparatively in sexual marketplace with women who have similarly lacking pockets

This is why men should get with women who have their OWN money. Then, all the financial rigmarole and confusion goes out the window.

If a woman is broke, lazy, or isn’t an earner, of course she’s going to go the highest bidder. It doesn’t matter how he looks. He could be overweight, have bad hygiene, no redeeming physical qualities, but if he’s financially able to take care of her, that’s who she’ll latch on too.

Women who have their own money really can be picky.

i haven’t ever disqualified a woman because of her economic status, whether she is earner or not is not of primary importance, if she does cool if not cool, what i care most about is how she interacts with me…women with their own money definitely are pickier, in fact them having money ends up being to their disadvantage because their patience for men not being on their ‘level’ ends ups constraining their choices even more (chris rock tells that joke about women not wanting to downgrade in terms of lifestyle, and i’ve found that to be very true)…ideally men would be more discerning with what/who they give their attention/resources to, it would right size the market but i wouldn’t hold out for that to become true, it’s rough outchea

Exactly. I’m all for my girl making more bread then me. I’m all for her having girls not out, or going on trips with her homegirls. I’ve always had a side eye at men who try and control women.

It’s dudes out here who will stalk, or a call a woman’s phone 100+ times in ONE day. That’s psychotic

i think everyone has their own boundaries/what they expect…some definitely go too far tho fasho

 

[finessence]

I wouldn’t say the problems with modern dating is just cornball dudes. Social media in general has screwed up expectations from men and women and you have these “relationship experts” and podcast idiots furthering ridiculous narratives that make it even worse.

Everybody needs to come back down to reality. It’s fine to have “standards”, but if they’re all superficial and nobody meets them, you’re probably the issue.

People basically need to go outside and face reality. People try to impose standards on others, while not possessing those standards themselves

A woman with 5 kids by 3-5 different dudes cannot have the same standards as a woman with no kids. That’s just how it is.

A dude with no hustle or work ethic, should not have the same standards as a man who does.

People just hate the cold hard truth. The older you get, the more baggage. It’s just facts.

It’s like a washed up athlete who still thinks he’s got “it” like man, you’re damaged goods when you reach a certain age.

 

[tr1ll]

i get it but generalizing is how we navigate in the world it would be overwhelming & inefficient not to, obviously the more one deals with a specific person/situation the less generalizations will matter as you have more exposure/information.

That's just being mentally lazy. It's not THAT hard. One word, one syllable, 4 letters. "Some". If that's too hard, idk what to tell you. What WE need to start doing is every time you're in a conversation with some one and they start talking about what "men" and/or "women" do, correct them and say "some". People keep saying it, people start believing it and here we are.

People gave their minds to the media during COVID, it's time to come on back home.

 

[spiceman80]

Uhmmm, so what's going with the Tate brothers?

 

[tokes99]

That's just being mentally lazy. It's not THAT hard. One word, one syllable, 4 letters. "Some". If that's too hard, idk what to tell you. What WE need to start doing is every time you're in a conversation with some one and they start talking about what "men" and/or "women" do, correct them and say "some". People keep saying it, people start believing it and here we are.

People gave their minds to the media during COVID, it's time to come on back home.

don’t disagree with the c19 hot take but respectfully, when generalizing it implies ‘in most cases’ if someone states that ‘men are stronger/taller than women’ or that ‘the left most lane on the freeway is the fast lane only for passing’ it doesn’t say that there aren’t women who are indeed stronger/taller than men or that you cant pass or go fast in other lanes…

it’s just how things are, all sentient beings tend to use simple heuristics…it’s not that it’s too difficult it’s just the underlying operating system, which isn’t to say there isn’t room for the exception(al) but if we didn’t have these shorthand rules of observation our instincts would be much slower as we would have to process so many things in order to make simple decisions…

i understand that in many cases generalizations will include biases (to the advantage of some & disadvantage others) that can be flat out wrong and there are times that it makes sense to question these simple assumptions but that doesn’t change the fact that some generalization is both necessary & true

 

[DCAllAfrican]

 

[Maximus Meridius]

It ain't just dudes that lack social skills. A lot of girls 30 and younger lack that **** too. Texting and social media ruined a lot of people. I was seeing this girl for a sec last summer and she ain't have no convo and she 26. After the 2nd date I was like I'm super straight. She still be texting me like "hi" and "hey". I be like wassup, whats going on. She like "oh nothing fr". Trick you text me for a reason.

 

[tokes99]

It ain't just dudes that lack social skills. A lot of girls 30 and younger lack that **** too. Texting and social media ruined a lot of people. I was seeing this girl for a sec last summer and she ain't have no convo and she 26. After the 2nd date I was like I'm super straight. She still be texting me like "hi" and "hey". I be like wassup, whats going on. She like "oh nothing fr". Trick you text me for a reason.

there always been dry females, maybe texting & social media has contributed to more of this but anecdotally between friends we’d always talk about girls when we were younger (and this actually hasn’t changed all that much as we got older w/women), especially when 1st getting to know them in that talking stage, being kinda boring…it’s actually been quite rare to have that spark from jump, a lot of times women kinda sit back waiting for you to either impress them or for their turn to talk (which honestly is most people); i think this, being boring/dry, is a common complaint from both men & women in that talking stage.

 

[TURBO UNO]

I must be a real horn dog because when I get dry texts I go straight to “what are you wearing right now?”

 

[calibeebee]

I must be a real horn dog because when I get dry texts I go straight to “what are you wearing right now?”

So I always accept friend requests on Snapchat from strangers. It’s 99.9 % fake pron profiles, or fake girls trying to steal credit card info/sign up for their cam sites.

I used to respond to their questions politely and then delete them from my friends. Lately I’ve been immediately saying “SHOW ME THE NUDES! NOW!” Before saying anything else.

Yesterday this girl messaged me saying hi, and I did my nudes response and instead of giving the fake spam response she said “EXCUSE ME?!”

It was a damn ex-coworker whoopsie daisies

 

[finessence]

It ain't just dudes that lack social skills. A lot of girls 30 and younger lack that **** too. Texting and social media ruined a lot of people. I was seeing this girl for a sec last summer and she ain't have no convo and she 26. After the 2nd date I was like I'm super straight. She still be texting me like "hi" and "hey". I be like wassup, whats going on. She like "oh nothing fr". Trick you text me for a reason.

No social skills. Don’t know how to clean. Sit on FB or IG and gossip all day. Aren’t open minded…. And wonder why no one wants them

A girl with no sense of humor or social skills is immediately eliminated by me. Most of these women base their lives off celebrities and what everyone else is doing

 

[DCAllAfrican]

@ Sit on FB or IG and gossip all day.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

there always been dry females, maybe texting & social media has contributed to more of this but anecdotally between friends we’d always talk about girls when we were younger (and this actually hasn’t changed all that much as we got older w/women), especially when 1st getting to know them in that talking stage, being kinda boring…it’s actually been quite rare to have that spark from jump, a lot of times women kinda sit back waiting for you to either impress them or for their turn to talk (which honestly is most people); i think this, being boring/dry, is a common complaint from both men & women in that talking stage.

The thing is I had already smashed. I knew her cousin. Both of 'em live together. The cousin kinda hooked us up. This is like when stuff started to open back up and I would see them out, we exchanged numbers, she started flirting hard so I did the same, she invited me to their place and yeah. Then after we went on 2 real dates just us.

Then she started acting awkward. I thought she was embarrassed about giving it up fast. I talked to her cousin and she told me the girl is like that. She's had past situations where she just don't know to have a conversation.