Archaeologists find 400,000 year old Human remain in Israel.

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By DANIEL ESTRIN, Associated Press Daniel Estrin, Associated Press – 34 mins ago

JERUSALEM – Israeli archaeologists said Monday they may have found the earliest evidence yet for the existence of modern man, and if so, it could upset theories of the origin of humans.

A Tel Aviv University team excavating a cave in central Israel said teeth found in the cave are about 400,000 years old and resemble those of other remains of modern man, known scientifically as @@++ sapiens, found in Israel. The earliest @@++ sapiens remains found until now are half as old.

"It's very exciting to come to this conclusion," said archaeologist Avi Gopher, whose team examined the teeth with X-rays and CT scans and dated them according to the layers of earth where they were found.

He stressed that further research is needed to solidify the claim. If it does, he says, "this changes the whole picture of evolution."

The accepted scientific theory is that @@++ sapiens originated in Africa and migrated out of the continent. Gopher said if the remains are definitively linked to modern human's ancestors, it could mean that modern man in fact originated in what is now Israel.

Sir Paul Mellars, a prehistory expert at Cambridge University, said the study is reputable, and the find is "important" because remains from that critical time period are scarce, but it is premature to say the remains are human.

"Based on the evidence they've sited, it's a very tenuous and frankly rather remote possibility," Mellars said. He said the remains are more likely related to modern man's ancient relatives, the Neanderthals.

According to today's accepted scientific theories, modern humans and Neanderthals stemmed from a common ancestor who lived in Africa about 700,000 years ago. One group of descendants migrated to Europe and developed into Neanderthals, later becoming extinct. Another group stayed in Africa and evolved into @@++ sapiens — modern humans.

Teeth are often unreliable indicators of origin, and analyses of skull remains would more definitively identify the species found in the Israeli cave, Mellars said.

Gopher, the Israeli archaeologist, said he is confident his team will find skulls and bones as they continue their dig.

The prehistoric Qesem cave was discovered in 2000, and excavations began in 2004. Researchers Gopher, Ran Barkai and Israel Hershkowitz published their study in the American Journal of Physical Anthropology.
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[h1]Researchers: Ancient human remains found in Israel


By DANIEL ESTRIN, Associated Press Daniel Estrin, Associated Press – 34 mins ago

JERUSALEM – Israeli archaeologists said Monday they may have found the earliest evidence yet for the existence of modern man, and if so, it could upset theories of the origin of humans.

A Tel Aviv University team excavating a cave in central Israel said teeth found in the cave are about 400,000 years old and resemble those of other remains of modern man, known scientifically as @@++ sapiens, found in Israel. The earliest @@++ sapiens remains found until now are half as old.

"It's very exciting to come to this conclusion," said archaeologist Avi Gopher, whose team examined the teeth with X-rays and CT scans and dated them according to the layers of earth where they were found.

He stressed that further research is needed to solidify the claim. If it does, he says, "this changes the whole picture of evolution."

The accepted scientific theory is that @@++ sapiens originated in Africa and migrated out of the continent. Gopher said if the remains are definitively linked to modern human's ancestors, it could mean that modern man in fact originated in what is now Israel.

Sir Paul Mellars, a prehistory expert at Cambridge University, said the study is reputable, and the find is "important" because remains from that critical time period are scarce, but it is premature to say the remains are human.

"Based on the evidence they've sited, it's a very tenuous and frankly rather remote possibility," Mellars said. He said the remains are more likely related to modern man's ancient relatives, the Neanderthals.

According to today's accepted scientific theories, modern humans and Neanderthals stemmed from a common ancestor who lived in Africa about 700,000 years ago. One group of descendants migrated to Europe and developed into Neanderthals, later becoming extinct. Another group stayed in Africa and evolved into @@++ sapiens — modern humans.

Teeth are often unreliable indicators of origin, and analyses of skull remains would more definitively identify the species found in the Israeli cave, Mellars said.

Gopher, the Israeli archaeologist, said he is confident his team will find skulls and bones as they continue their dig.

The prehistoric Qesem cave was discovered in 2000, and excavations began in 2004. Researchers Gopher, Ran Barkai and Israel Hershkowitz published their study in the American Journal of Physical Anthropology.
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Gotta find your own truth.

I never understood one thing about science and the origin/begening of humans... If, according to science, we evolved from apes, at what point in evolution history would you consider it human or an ape? This always confused me.
 
Gotta find your own truth.

I never understood one thing about science and the origin/begening of humans... If, according to science, we evolved from apes, at what point in evolution history would you consider it human or an ape? This always confused me.
 
It's not that one species morphed. It's that different species came together and merged. That's why some classes aren't around anymore. Because they mixed in with other species and became a hybrid  something else.
 
It's not that one species morphed. It's that different species came together and merged. That's why some classes aren't around anymore. Because they mixed in with other species and became a hybrid  something else.
 
Originally Posted by ATLien Seeko

Gotta find your own truth.

I never understood one thing about science and the origin/begening of humans... If, according to science, we evolved from apes, at what point in evolution history would you consider it human or an ape? This always confused me.


Well, I think they made the distinction based on the intelligence of the being.

I was brought up Jewish, but I was never taught to believe in Adam and Eve as how it is portrated by zealot creationists like my wife's father who is a pastor. I was taught their was a creator and Adam and Eve is just a story that represents mans ability to make moral/logical decisions based on cause and effect. They didn't represent the "first humans", they represented the ability of humans to think as individuals.
 
Originally Posted by ATLien Seeko

Gotta find your own truth.

I never understood one thing about science and the origin/begening of humans... If, according to science, we evolved from apes, at what point in evolution history would you consider it human or an ape? This always confused me.


Well, I think they made the distinction based on the intelligence of the being.

I was brought up Jewish, but I was never taught to believe in Adam and Eve as how it is portrated by zealot creationists like my wife's father who is a pastor. I was taught their was a creator and Adam and Eve is just a story that represents mans ability to make moral/logical decisions based on cause and effect. They didn't represent the "first humans", they represented the ability of humans to think as individuals.
 
Originally Posted by torgriffith

It's not that one species morphed. It's that different species came together and merged. That's why some classes aren't around anymore. Because they mixed in with other species and became a hybrid  something else.

think you might have confused yourself with that post
 
Originally Posted by torgriffith

It's not that one species morphed. It's that different species came together and merged. That's why some classes aren't around anymore. Because they mixed in with other species and became a hybrid  something else.

think you might have confused yourself with that post
 
Two things

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at NT for banning the abbreviation for Homosexual

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at people who FAILED to pay attention in intro biology. Evolution isn't that complicated. The article isn't using the correct language and is throwing people off.

The struggle continues.
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Two things

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at NT for banning the abbreviation for Homosexual

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at people who FAILED to pay attention in intro biology. Evolution isn't that complicated. The article isn't using the correct language and is throwing people off.

The struggle continues.
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Originally Posted by rashi


but it is premature to say the remains are human.
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"Based on the evidence they've sited, it's a very tenuous and frankly rather remote possibility," Mellars said. He said the remains are more likely related to modern man's ancient relatives, the Neanderthals. Teeth are often unreliable indicators of origin, and analyses of skull remains would more definitively identify the species found in the Israeli cave, Mellars said.
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Until further notice I doubt they are @%%+ sapiens sapiens.
Possibly @%%+ sapien neanderthalensis. Which wouldn't change much.
 
Originally Posted by 10littlefigures

Originally Posted by torgriffith

It's not that one species morphed. It's that different species came together and merged. That's why some classes aren't around anymore. Because they mixed in with other species and became a hybrid  something else.

think you might have confused yourself with that post
Naw I meant to word it like that. It was in response to atlien seeko's question about at what the turning point is between ape and human.
 
Originally Posted by 10littlefigures

Originally Posted by torgriffith

It's not that one species morphed. It's that different species came together and merged. That's why some classes aren't around anymore. Because they mixed in with other species and became a hybrid  something else.

think you might have confused yourself with that post
Naw I meant to word it like that. It was in response to atlien seeko's question about at what the turning point is between ape and human.
 
Originally Posted by rashi


but it is premature to say the remains are human.
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"Based on the evidence they've sited, it's a very tenuous and frankly rather remote possibility," Mellars said. He said the remains are more likely related to modern man's ancient relatives, the Neanderthals. Teeth are often unreliable indicators of origin, and analyses of skull remains would more definitively identify the species found in the Israeli cave, Mellars said.
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Until further notice I doubt they are @%%+ sapiens sapiens.
Possibly @%%+ sapien neanderthalensis. Which wouldn't change much.
 
Originally Posted by Napoleon

Two things

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at NT for banning the abbreviation for Homosexual

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at people who FAILED to pay attention in intro biology. Evolution isn't that complicated. The article isn't using the correct language and is throwing people off.

The struggle continues.
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Help us out then. I'd like to see you explain it. Dont just say "The struggle continues.
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" like you have the answers but refuse to help out the "strugglers".  
 
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