Arian Foster Let It Be Known That He Is A Non-Believer

[HEATHEN]

God exists

God doesn't exist

nyah nyah

 

[HEATHEN]

You shouldn't be laughing son, you look like a toddler out here.


Got yourself looking all types of insecure. All types of exposed. You're more open than Mia Khalifa at a ******** shoot.

 

[mister friendly]

You didn't answer my questions man

Oh, I'll answer your questions when you answer them yourself. I don't want to offend you. I need to know what you believe first.



But seriously, I never said you "feared" atheism, I said you're threatened by atheism. And I already outlined and quoted the statements you've made to prove it.



Mijo, you're going to get in trouble, go to sleep.

Nice deflection

Where my posts that even hint at being threaten by atheism?

Why do you keep telling me to go to bed?

*Wait you found the map didn't you?

 

[deleted]

I've covered that before

I can't find it...every time it was brought up you replied with something about Stalin.

 

[HEATHEN]

Nice deflection

Why do you keep telling me to go to bed?

*Wait you found the map didn't you?

You know damn well why, . Wifey wears the pants in your house mijo.


What deflection BTW? You misquoted me, you minced my words, and again I outlined your antics ad nauseam.


Deflection would be you repeatedly finding ways to avoid answering.

Do you think that atheists are amoral or of lower moral fiber than theists?


What about agnostics? Are they of lower moral fiber than theists?


What about polytheists? Are they of lower moral fiber than theists?


Also are all theists on par in terms of morality? Are Christians more moral than Jews, or Muslims for that matter?


Also nontheistic religions, such as buddhism. Are they amoral? Of less moral fiber than theists?

You look crazy right now. I don't know who is worse, between this thread and the @ElderWatsonDiggs thread, you two are going hard for that L.


In his defense, at least he's not a bigot.

 

[HEATHEN]

mister friendly , you a pugilist? I love how you conveniently slipped this damning gem.

Faced with the violence condoned and encouraged by organized religion, some believers are eager to point out that atheists are equally violent, if not more. In fact, some suggest that atheism is at the root of the worst atrocities in recent history, like the regime of Joseph Stalin or Mao Zedong.

While it’s true that Stalin and Mao were corrupt leaders who denounced religion among their people, suggesting that their depravity was caused by atheism or that their behavior was at all indicative of atheism as a whole simply does not follow. Similarly, the idea that atheism is somehow uniquely responsible for despotism is clearly false. History is filled with examples of the religious whose beliefs were directly responsible for murder and violence (1). Yet such direct relationship has not been seen with secular tyrants. If anything, non-religious dictators themselves act more like religious zealots, elevating themselves as deities in the cult of personality they’ve developed.

Atheism Has No Doctrines

The violence within Christianity or Islam can often be traced back to the teachings of those religions because it is embedded in the ideology of the religions themselves (2). Even though war and violence in the name of God are often motivated by non-religious ambitions, such as political and territorial gain, religions in such cases are often used as an excuse for justifying such acts, disguising their intentions as holy and recruiting armies of people who would not have been willing to risk their lives for purely secular causes (3). People throughout history have been martyred and sacrificed in the name of religion, and holy wars have been fought over the tenets of those religions.

The same cannot be said of atheism for the simple fact that atheism is not a religion. Atheism is a lack of belief in deities. It has no governing dogmatic principles, no rule book and no core ideology. Comparing atheism to religion is like comparing apples and oranges. It’s more helpful to compare atheism to theism, which is simply belief in a deity. While some theists also hold fundamentalist beliefs, just believing that some god exists is not enough to cause wars and violence based on the belief alone. How many wars have been caused by deism? You’d need some additional dogmatic beliefs in order for that happen. 


No one commits mass murder in the name of theism or atheism alone. Additional dogmatic principles are needed to justify such grisly outcomes. In the case of theism, religions like Christianity and Islam provide such dogma, creating convenient excuses. Secular totalitarian regimes and religion share this dogmatic element: a belief that a set of ideas are true because an authority figure says so and that questioning those ideas can lead to serious or even deadly consequences.

Therefore, it’s not reasonable to say that atheism condones or promotes violence or that tyrants have killed in the name of atheism. Such actions or any other action, both good and bad, do not and cannot speak for atheism in general, as no two atheists necessarily hold any of the same beliefs or convictions about the world. The only thing held in common between all atheists is a lack of belief in deities.

This means that some atheists are undoubtedly unkind, aggressive and violent. It also means that some atheists are kind, friendly and peaceful. Any type of person can be an atheist, just as any type of person can be not interested in golf. Just because some non-golfers are jerks doesn’t make not golfing bad any more than atheism can be blamed for the behavior of a handful of atheists. If you’re trying to make a decision about whether you believe in God based on how a certain non-believer you know acts, you’re using flawed reasoning. For the same reason, not all religious people are bad or cruel individuals, yet the practice of violence and war is deeply imbedded in many religious ideologies. It is, therefore, best to examine your views about God or other religious beliefs by evaluating the evidence provided for such claims, not based on the behavior of people who do or do not accept it as truth.

The Cult of Personality

It’s true that the tyrannical communist regimes of Mao and Stalin were opposed to religion, with religious belief discouraged and punished under their rule. This had less to do with atheism and more to do with the threat of religion as competition with their own tyrannical plans. Totalitarian regimes are built on dogma and fear, not freedom of speech and inquiry. In this way, they greatly resemble religion. In effect, these leaders essentially created religions and inserted themselves at the top as new deities. As Sam Harris put it, “The problem with fascism and communism, however, is not that they are too critical of religion; the problem is that they are too much like religions.” These cults of personality are not derived from atheism, and it is hard to see how one could argue that their activities were representative of atheists as a whole. Indeed, many free, irreligious nations, such as Denmark and Sweden (4), are among the most peaceful and prosperous countries in the world (5). The point, however, is not to say that atheism necessarily causes people to be happier or more prosperous. What is clear, however, is that atheism does not lead to violence, tyranny or genocide any more than religiosity guarantees a peaceful and prosperous nation.

The world’s religions have rules and holy books that tell their followers what’s wrong or right and how to behave. Thus, it is reasonable to hold a religion accountable for the message that it preaches. There are no holy atheist scriptures, no atheist pope and no atheist rituals, tenets, creeds, code or authority. Atheism cannot be held accountable for the activities of atheists in the same way that religion can be judged by its doctrine because atheism has no doctrines.

Son is probably covering his eyes "nyah, nyah, nyah I don't see you article, I don't see you, nyah nyah nyah".


Scroll up, I even bolded and enlarged some key points. To make it easier for you .

 

[Master Zik]

And where's my answer?


Yes or no, does god hate gays and does God condone violence against those who go against him?

Son conveniently stops answering questions when it'll expose him too much. Same way he been ignoring Plan and then posts later saying he answered him in other posts.

Who'll only go back and forth if he thinks he can ensnare you in his shifting blame ask a question to answer a question nonsense while poorly grasping concepts and misunderstanding words.

 

[blastercombo]

God exists

........ Because........?


Cmon, you can do it.....

 

[sea manup]

i hope god decides to be a lakers fan this season 

 

[jape]

damn yall are going extra hard for no reason. 

who are yall trying to sway? them or yourself. 

i never understood people from either side arguing their point because people are going to believe what they feel is true.  

if someone believes God exists or doesn't exist, should that person really have to give YOU proof of God's existence or non-existence  in THEIR life?

 

[HEATHEN]

i hope god decides to be a lakers fan this season 

Man chilll....


Be patient.


We got a nice young nucleus.



We're not winning no rings if that's what you're hoping for.


Likely, we're going to be a middle of the road team.


I just want to see D'Angelo Russell, Julius Randle and Jordan Clarkson develop. Build rapport and create something to continue to build upon.


And most of all I just want Kobe to have fun, put up some vintage performances.


And it's great we have Lou Williams. we can definitely play the market when Kobe's contract expires, possibly get him back on a discount.

 

[jape]

kobe farwell tour or what?

 

[HEATHEN]

kobe farwell tour or what?

Naw, depending on how they do this year he might come back.


If we do well, and he'd be willing to give the Lakers a sizable discount, it's conceivable he'd make one more run at it, provided the Lakers pick up the right personnel in free agency.

 

[mister friendly]

Nice deflection

Why do you keep telling me to go to bed?

*Wait you found the map didn't you?

You know damn well why, . Wifey wears the pants in your house mijo.


What deflection BTW? You misquoted me, you minced my words, and again I outlined your antics ad nauseam.


Deflection would be you repeatedly finding ways to avoid answering.

Do you think that atheists are amoral or of lower moral fiber than theists?


What about agnostics? Are they of lower moral fiber than theists?


What about polytheists? Are they of lower moral fiber than theists?


Also are all theists on par in terms of morality? Are Christians more moral than Jews, or Muslims for that matter?


Also nontheistic religions, such as buddhism. Are they amoral? Of less moral fiber than theists?

You look crazy right now. I don't know who is worse, between this thread and the @ElderWatsonDiggs thread, you two are going hard for that L.


In his defense, at least he's not a bigot.

You really must have found the map!

My wife is wearing pants!

You are deflecting you haven't answered my questions about your obsession and my posts where I show that I'm threatened by atheists.

Bigot? You continue to reach.

Where my negative comments towards atheists. I have over 200 posts in here, if I was a bigot, it would have been transparent and concrete by now but yet you still cant produce anything concrete besides your vague accusations.

I look crazy? Whats crazy to me is sitting there talking to somebody I'm calling crazy that I'm "indifferent " to

L? ....Like there was anything to be won or lost in the first place. This is a sneaker board dude or in other words, entertainment.

Like I said earlier I could say million things that would make theists look bad but it doesnt matter.

The world will still believe in God.

 

[HEATHEN]

You really must have found the map!

My wife is wearing pants!

You are deflecting you haven't answered my questions about your obsession and my posts where I show that I'm threatened by atheists.

Bigot? You continue to reach.

Where my negative comments towards atheists. I have over 200 posts in here, if I was a bigot, it would have been transparent and concrete by now but yet you still cant produce anything concrete besides your vague accusations.

I look crazy? Whats crazy to me is sitting there talking to somebody I'm calling crazy that I'm "indifferent " to

L? ....Like there was anything to be won or lost in the first place. This is a sneaker board dude.

Like I said earlier I could say million things that would make theists look bad but it doesnt matter.

The world will still believe in God.

Let me start with that last statement, hold on, let me get this out...


....


Yo I'm CRINE.......This dude .


Ah....That was good, the world will still believe in God?


~55% of the world is Christian, Muslim or Jewish.

The rest are a hodgepodge of nontheistics, polytheistics, atheists and agnostics.


Hate to break it to you, but the world doesn't believe in God.


But hey, I know you need to believe that in order to sleep at night so you know what? You go right on ahead son.



Again, I've outlined time and again your bigoted statements. To ad nauseam. First you cry about me taking the time to cite your statements, then you continue wanting me to recite those very statements.




Hilarious.


Again, your line of questioning was overtly condescending and bigoted. It's like Bill O'Reilly when he gets someone on his show, that's exactly how you sound. The patronizing undertones are all too obvious. I'm not the only one in this thread that saw that, hell I'm not even the first person in this thread to point that out.


You can split hairs, mince words, play innocent, etc etc etc. But your supercilious, bigoted views towards atheism and atheists has been noted.

 

[$tacy]

I hope god is a laker fan. And uses that power he uses to make people get jobs, get the js on Saturdays and every other thing people thank it for on the Lakers and at least make em competitive and fun to watch.

 

[Master Zik]

damn yall are going extra hard for no reason. 

who are yall trying to sway? them or yourself. 
i never understood people from either side arguing their point because people are going to believe what they feel is true.  

Aint nothing wrong with spreading the logic and reason.

Believe it or not other ppl not actively posting but reading can be informed and make better life decisions off of the posts in these sort of threads.

if someone believes God exists or doesn't exist, should that person really have to give YOU proof of God's existence or non-existence in THEIR life?

No but as long as they have faith they should realize that doubt comes with it.

Just believing wouldn't bother anyway but we have to look at the world today and understand how religion has negatively effected society.

 

[mister friendly]

You really must have found the map!

My wife is wearing pants!

You are deflecting you haven't answered my questions about your obsession and my posts where I show that I'm threatened by atheists.

Bigot? You continue to reach.

Where my negative comments towards atheists. I have over 200 posts in here, if I was a bigot, it would have been transparent and concrete by now but yet you still cant produce anything concrete besides your vague accusations.

I look crazy? Whats crazy to me is sitting there talking to somebody I'm calling crazy that I'm "indifferent " to

L? ....Like there was anything to be won or lost in the first place. This is a sneaker board dude.

Like I said earlier I could say million things that would make theists look bad but it doesnt matter.

The world will still believe in God.

Let me start with that last statement, hold on, let me get this out...


....


Yo I'm CRINE.......This dude .


Ah....That was good, the world will still believe in God?


~55% of the world is Christian, Muslim or Jewish.

The rest are a hodgepodge of nontheistics, polytheistics, atheists and agnostics.


Hate to break it to you, but the world doesn't believe in God.


But hey, I know you need to believe that in order to sleep at night so you know what? You go right on ahead son.



Again, I've outlined time and again your bigoted statements. To ad nauseam. First you cry about me taking the time to cite your statements, then you continue wanting me to recite those very statements.




Hilarious.


Again, your line of questioning was overtly condescending and bigoted. It's like Bill O'Reilly when he gets someone on his show, that's exactly how you sound. The patronizing undertones are all too obvious. I'm not the only one in this thread that saw that, hell I'm not even the first person in this thread to point that out.


You can split hairs, mince words, play innocent, etc etc etc. But your supercilious, bigoted views towards atheism and atheists has been noted.

I'm glad I can amuse you

Again wrong with your facts

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog...cent-world-population-has-faith-third-are-ch/

The over 80 percent of the world believes in God

Crying?

* You didnt find the map to my house

Again you are reaching. You have no concrete bigoted statements and you know this.

Again deflecting my requests for concrete bigoted statements and when you feel the needed to take the time to @ me 53 times and copy and paste your questions like 18 times?

You watch Bill O'Reilly?

If you do...you know this reference

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[HEATHEN]

I'm glad I can amuse you

Again wrong with your facts

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog...cent-world-population-has-faith-third-are-ch/

The over 80 percent of the world believes in God

Crying?

* You didnt find the map to my house

Again you are reaching. You have no concrete bigoted statements and you know this. A

gain deflecting my requests for conrete bigoted statements and when you feel the needed to take the time to @ me 53 times and copy and paste your questions like 18 times?

You watch Bill O'Reilly?

If you do...you know this reference

View media item 1679831

View media item 1679841






The confirmation bias is beyond egregious levels now.


My man has no shame misrepresenting and misquoting statements.



The article clearly says 84% of the world has faith, that has nothing to do with believing in GOD. There are nontheistic religions, there are polytheistic religions, etc.


Only 55% of the world believes in God, at least the God that coincides with your idea of God (Christianity, Judaism, Islam).


FLAGRANT with the outright, boldfaced half-baked truths and whole lies.


No shame whatsoever. Wow.


I'm the angry one yet you're the one who is sitting there behaving and searing like a petulant child that can't accept the truth.


You've got some serious issues. Stop projecting dude, it's clear as day that you're hurt, angry, bitter. You couldn't vilify atheism and now you're just done.

 

[HEATHEN]

I'm still dying that this man had the nerve to link an article and really misrepresent the facts laid out in the article.







Such brazen disregard for the truth, all to prop up his baseless assertions.



My man needs something, ANYTHING to get some leverage in this discussion. Dude is fighting for dear life.

 

[sea manup]

.

 

 

[HEATHEN]

Yo Sea Man, when I click on your "About Me" section in your sig it goes to a thread where I have insufficient permissions.



What thread is that b?

 

[HEATHEN]

Wait the '13-14 NBA Season thread? (I just logged out and checked)...

 

[mister friendly]

I'm glad I can amuse you

Again wrong with your facts

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog...cent-world-population-has-faith-third-are-ch/

The over 80 percent of the world believes in God

Crying?

* You didnt find the map to my house

Again you are reaching. You have no concrete bigoted statements and you know this. A

gain deflecting my requests for conrete bigoted statements and when you feel the needed to take the time to @ me 53 times and copy and paste your questions like 18 times?

You watch Bill O'Reilly?

If you do...you know this reference

View media item 1679831

View media item 1679841






The confirmation bias is beyond egregious levels now.


My man has no shame misrepresenting and misquoting statements.



The article clearly says 84% of the world has faith, that has nothing to do with believing in GOD. There are nontheistic religions, there are polytheistic religions, etc.


Only 55% of the world believes in God, at least the God that coincides with your idea of God.


FLAGRANT with the outright, boldfaced half-baked truths and whole lies.


No shame whatsoever. Wow.


I'm the angry one yet you're the one who is sitting there behaving and searing like a petulant child that can't accept the truth.


You've got some serious issues. Stop projecting dude, it's clear as day that you're hurt, angry, bitter. You couldn't vilify atheism and now you're just done.

Over 80 population of the world believes in God.

Where have I said my beliefs about God?

You're reaching yet again.

Again you deflected my questions about why you felt the need to @ me like 50 times or copy and past your questions like 15 times?

Also deflecting my requests for concrete bigoted statements.

How am I hurt, angry and bitter? Where are my posts showing this?

Its strange, most of the time when somebody is hurt, angry or bitter they call people names or use other curse words.

I'd like to see your examples of me doing this....Oh wait theres only one person in this conversation doing that.

Man all this time on someone you are "indifferent" to

 

[HEATHEN]

Over 80 population of the world believes in God.

Where have I said my beliefs about God?

You're reaching yet again.

Again you deflected my questions about when you felt the need to @ me like 50 times or copy and past your questions like 15 times?

Also deflecting my requests for concrete bigoted statements.

How am I hurt, angry and bitter? Where are my posts showing this?

Its strange, most of the time when somebody is hurt, angry or bitter they call people names or use other curse words.

I'd like to see your examples of me doing this....Oh wait theres only one person in this conversation doing that.

Man all this time on someone you are "indifferent" to

You can keep repeating

Over 80 population of the world believes in God.

It doesn't make that statement true. To say that is to completely disregard polytheistic and nontheistic religions and their ideas.





Context is a big indicator of intent when someone is using "curse" words. For me, cursing is part of my usual jargon. I cuss like a sailor, no need to feel special princess.


I haven't deflected one thing this entire thread. I'm not you. I simply refuse to repeat myself, that's all. I laid out where you made bigoted statements, I laid out how your line of questioning was inflammatory, bigoted, insinuating and supercilious, quite concisely actually.


Others share that sentiment of you.


And I'm quite indifferent when it comes to you, personally. However, this topic, I am not indifferent. I do hold an opinion, and I can represent my arguments with facts, not fluff. Not baseless assertions.


Sucks you can't be held to that standard. Buy hey, that's your malfunction.