Armenians are hating one kobe..

[ham city]

Originally Posted by petozham

For lack of a better example, let me put it this way. Imagine Pau Gasol cut a deal with KKK members and skinheads to be in some commercials. He had nothing to do with anything that's ever happened or happens, and he too owes nothing to anyone, he's just doing it for money. You're telling me he wouldn't and shouldn't recieve any backlash from the black community?

That's a poor example unless you're implying that Turkish Airlines share the same ideologies as the KKK.

In that situation Pau would be the face of an extremist terrorist group, Kobe is the face of an airline company, not the same thing.

You say it's not the best government for Kobe to associate himself with but he's not associated with the government, he's associated with an international corporation that does business in hundreds of countries world wide.

Think about it from an outside perspective, you're basically saying no one should do business with an entity whose base country has ever committed an atrocity.  Which is ridiculous when you start peddling back hundreds of years.

 

[5am6oody72]

Volkswagen, IBM, and many other companies did work for/were affiliated with Nazi germany. Should nobody do business with those guys either?

 

[5am6oody72]

Volkswagen, IBM, and many other companies did work for/were affiliated with Nazi germany. Should nobody do business with those guys either?

 

[westcoastsfinest]

Originally Posted by cornzilla

Let the man live. He probably doesn't even know about the genocide. His business manager probably presented him with the numbers, he saw the number of zeros and agreed. You think he sat around thinking about how this would affect his image in the Armenian community

He could care less as long as they are buying tickets and merchandise. 

QFT

 

[westcoastsfinest]

Originally Posted by cornzilla

Let the man live. He probably doesn't even know about the genocide. His business manager probably presented him with the numbers, he saw the number of zeros and agreed. You think he sat around thinking about how this would affect his image in the Armenian community

He could care less as long as they are buying tickets and merchandise. 

QFT

 

[dipsetgeneral]

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*Applauds Kobe on his deal*

 

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*Applauds Kobe on his deal*

 

[i am nas]

Originally Posted by kvsm23vs24

Armenians will forgive him, damn all of Glendale loves that man,

glendale

 

[i am nas]

Originally Posted by kvsm23vs24

Armenians will forgive him, damn all of Glendale loves that man,

glendale

 

[petozham]

Originally Posted by HAM CITY

Originally Posted by petozham

For lack of a better example, let me put it this way. Imagine Pau Gasol cut a deal with KKK members and skinheads to be in some commercials. He had nothing to do with anything that's ever happened or happens, and he too owes nothing to anyone, he's just doing it for money. You're telling me he wouldn't and shouldn't recieve any backlash from the black community?

That's a poor example unless you're implying that Turkish Airlines share the same ideologies as the KKK.

In that situation Pau would be the face of an extremist terrorist group, Kobe is the face of an airline company, not the same thing.

You say it's not the best government for Kobe to associate himself with but he's not associated with the government, he's associated with an international corporation that does business in hundreds of countries world wide.

Think about it from an outside perspective, you're basically saying no one should do business with an entity whose base country has ever committed an atrocity.  Which is ridiculous when you start peddling back hundreds of years.

They share a very similar ideology, except the Turks shared that ideology against one race in particular. My race.

Use your imagination a bit, I'm not saying Pau straight up makes KKK ads, bashing races in his commercials. I'm saying what if instead of Turks, the KKK/skinheads owned that airline and Pau was the face of it. Still don't see similarities?

The airline is funded by the Turkish government and Kobe represents that airline and is getting paid by that government that funds the airline, thus making him associated with that government.

Let me put it this way to hopefully help get you to at least see our side of it. On the ads/commercials, Kobe will be seen wearing a jersey saying "Ataturk" on it. Ataturk is the name of the airline. The airline named itself after a man by that name. The man they named it after was a army officer, President of Turkey, and more importantly, one of the masterminds behind the genocide that took 1.5 million of my people. Now imagine yourself in our shoes, and you see your favorite athlete in that commercial and you see that name on his jersey. How would you feel?

Volkswagen, IBM, and many other companies did work for/were affiliatedwith Nazi germany. Should nobody do business with those guys either?
Volkswagen is a German company and IBM was just foul for that. But as long as Jewish people are okay with it now, then no harm no foul. Germany admitted to their wrongs and paid respiration a while back, while Turkey till this day denies(in fact they deny the legitimacy of Darfur as well).

To put it into terms, Are the Jewish community and German community currently in conflict and feud? Can you have a Jewish person and a German person in one room getting along? The answer is no and yes. Can you say the same about Armenians and Turks?

 

[petozham]

Originally Posted by HAM CITY

Originally Posted by petozham

For lack of a better example, let me put it this way. Imagine Pau Gasol cut a deal with KKK members and skinheads to be in some commercials. He had nothing to do with anything that's ever happened or happens, and he too owes nothing to anyone, he's just doing it for money. You're telling me he wouldn't and shouldn't recieve any backlash from the black community?

That's a poor example unless you're implying that Turkish Airlines share the same ideologies as the KKK.

In that situation Pau would be the face of an extremist terrorist group, Kobe is the face of an airline company, not the same thing.

You say it's not the best government for Kobe to associate himself with but he's not associated with the government, he's associated with an international corporation that does business in hundreds of countries world wide.

Think about it from an outside perspective, you're basically saying no one should do business with an entity whose base country has ever committed an atrocity.  Which is ridiculous when you start peddling back hundreds of years.

They share a very similar ideology, except the Turks shared that ideology against one race in particular. My race.

Use your imagination a bit, I'm not saying Pau straight up makes KKK ads, bashing races in his commercials. I'm saying what if instead of Turks, the KKK/skinheads owned that airline and Pau was the face of it. Still don't see similarities?

The airline is funded by the Turkish government and Kobe represents that airline and is getting paid by that government that funds the airline, thus making him associated with that government.

Let me put it this way to hopefully help get you to at least see our side of it. On the ads/commercials, Kobe will be seen wearing a jersey saying "Ataturk" on it. Ataturk is the name of the airline. The airline named itself after a man by that name. The man they named it after was a army officer, President of Turkey, and more importantly, one of the masterminds behind the genocide that took 1.5 million of my people. Now imagine yourself in our shoes, and you see your favorite athlete in that commercial and you see that name on his jersey. How would you feel?

Volkswagen, IBM, and many other companies did work for/were affiliatedwith Nazi germany. Should nobody do business with those guys either?
Volkswagen is a German company and IBM was just foul for that. But as long as Jewish people are okay with it now, then no harm no foul. Germany admitted to their wrongs and paid respiration a while back, while Turkey till this day denies(in fact they deny the legitimacy of Darfur as well).

To put it into terms, Are the Jewish community and German community currently in conflict and feud? Can you have a Jewish person and a German person in one room getting along? The answer is no and yes. Can you say the same about Armenians and Turks?

 

[crobers 78]

Originally Posted by FIRST B0RN

Originally Posted by xsalvioutlawx

People will hate on Kobe for ANYTHING he does. Dude had nothing to do with anyone dying, he's just going to be advertised on a Turkish airline, #%! is wrong with that?

You sound ignorant and misinformed, but you're a Kobe stan (with Mars and a pair of J's in your avy

) so I would expect you to defend him. The only reason this story probably even got any type of attention is becasue of the large Armenian population that encompasses the Los Angeles area. The people making a fuss about this have close ties to the issue at heart. I am not saying that Kobe deserves hate, but you have to take into account that other cultures and ethnicities have problems with other groups that may ellude you.

  

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Originally Posted by SaintVitus07

Glendale is salty. Still mad the best deli in town is Italian, I see.

This here...i see what you did

 

[crobers 78]

Originally Posted by FIRST B0RN

Originally Posted by xsalvioutlawx

People will hate on Kobe for ANYTHING he does. Dude had nothing to do with anyone dying, he's just going to be advertised on a Turkish airline, #%! is wrong with that?

You sound ignorant and misinformed, but you're a Kobe stan (with Mars and a pair of J's in your avy

) so I would expect you to defend him. The only reason this story probably even got any type of attention is becasue of the large Armenian population that encompasses the Los Angeles area. The people making a fuss about this have close ties to the issue at heart. I am not saying that Kobe deserves hate, but you have to take into account that other cultures and ethnicities have problems with other groups that may ellude you.

  

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Originally Posted by SaintVitus07

Glendale is salty. Still mad the best deli in town is Italian, I see.

This here...i see what you did

 

[essential1]

Kobe's popularity in 1 Chinese city alone > Whatever Armenia can do for him..

Yes I know China has nothing to do with this but still it's not going to bother him, considering he always has that in his back pocket.

 

[essential1]

Kobe's popularity in 1 Chinese city alone > Whatever Armenia can do for him..

Yes I know China has nothing to do with this but still it's not going to bother him, considering he always has that in his back pocket.

 

[therealmccoy12]

who cares. let him make his money

exactly...no need to be salty just because his life is win in every aspect...and yours is not.

 

[therealmccoy12]

who cares. let him make his money

exactly...no need to be salty just because his life is win in every aspect...and yours is not.

 

[jus3]

Originally Posted by Essential1

Kobe's popularity in 1 Chinese city alone > Whatever Armenia can do for him..

Yes I know China has nothing to do with this but still it's not going to bother him, considering he always has that in his back pocket.

That might be true, but I think people on this board are underestimating how passionate Armenians are with their culture. 
They love their culture and tradition.  In high school, we had a holiday for Armenian genocide.  They're heavily populated here and they do support the Lakers.  These dudes are die hard Laker fans.  

The Armenians I know still despise the Turks for denying the genocide.  

With that said, I ain't mad at Kobe, but I can see why people would be angered.

 

[jus3]

Originally Posted by Essential1

Kobe's popularity in 1 Chinese city alone > Whatever Armenia can do for him..

Yes I know China has nothing to do with this but still it's not going to bother him, considering he always has that in his back pocket.

That might be true, but I think people on this board are underestimating how passionate Armenians are with their culture. 
They love their culture and tradition.  In high school, we had a holiday for Armenian genocide.  They're heavily populated here and they do support the Lakers.  These dudes are die hard Laker fans.  

The Armenians I know still despise the Turks for denying the genocide.  

With that said, I ain't mad at Kobe, but I can see why people would be angered.

 

[caleekicks]

Originally Posted by SaintVitus07

Glendale is salty. Still mad the best deli in town is Italian, I see.

Add north east Pasadena to that list.

 

[caleekicks]

Originally Posted by SaintVitus07

Glendale is salty. Still mad the best deli in town is Italian, I see.

Add north east Pasadena to that list.

 

[cruzair13]

Originally Posted by caleekicks

Originally Posted by SaintVitus07

Glendale is salty. Still mad the best deli in town is Italian, I see.

Add north east Pasadena to that list.

which deli?
but on another note, portos ftw.

armenians worship kobe.
kobe probably didn't know the magnitude of how much turkey affects armenia.
let him make his money brooo

 

[cruzair13]

Originally Posted by caleekicks

Originally Posted by SaintVitus07

Glendale is salty. Still mad the best deli in town is Italian, I see.

Add north east Pasadena to that list.

which deli?
but on another note, portos ftw.

armenians worship kobe.
kobe probably didn't know the magnitude of how much turkey affects armenia.
let him make his money brooo

 

[jus3]

Mario's Deli > *

 

[jus3]

Mario's Deli > *