Atheists: Always doing the most?

[antonlavey]

Originally Posted by Wooly Willy

If I could chime in real quick.

As a Muslim, I would be lying if I told you that those pictures these people are drawing didn't hurt me or I wasn't offended by them. This is a man that is dearer to Muslims than our own parents. However, I will say that these ridiculous attacks on the Prophet (P) are not new in the least bit. Personally, the personality and character of Prophet Muhammad (P) was one of the central reasons I become so interested in Islam. The more I read about him, the more I was certain that Islam was not only the correct way but the way I need to live my life. As I began to learn Arabic, I discovered a world of centuries of untranslated works by classical Islamic scholars that gave a wonderful defense of the Prophet against the baseless claims of the medieval Europeans that Muhammad was some sort of demon, possessed soul or just an outright liar. Like I said before, one of the personal reasons I was so attracted to Islam is because I studied the life of Muhammad from both Islamic and critical points of views and came to the conclusion that not only was he a sincere person but was what he claimed to be. These cartoons or any of these criticisms do not affect my beliefs in the least bit and in these last few years, I realized that every time someone wants to debate on the issue, they never really have any good points to back up their claims in regards to the Prophet's character. I know that the majority of these people drawing these pictures are mostly ignorant in the issue and are just following the hype claiming to be in defense of freedom of speech which is clearly not the case. It is interesting that if I established a Facebook group promoting negative, stereotypical images of Jewish figures, for example, I would be instantly labeled an anti-Semite and would have all forums for my expression closed off. These offensive pictures are not an expression of free speech but just a front to express hatred for a misunderstood religion. If anyone is truly convinced of their beliefs that Muhammad was an evil man or anything like that, then I would be more than happy to engage in discussion but otherwise it is just a waste of time and words fallen on deaf ears.

Another important thing is that I think it is important that we Muslims learn how to react to these situations in a more constructive manner. These images are horribly offensive and there should be an informational movement that debunks these myths/stereotypes of the Prophet and spread correct information. Reacting with violence is never gonna solve anything. Like I said, these people have been attacking the Prophet (P) for centuries and half of the things these people are claiming in 2010 were debated and debunked in 1010. We should make sure we are familiar with our own history so we can make intellectual counterarguments rather than reacting in blind rage or in a stream of nonsensical cuss words on FB. Honestly, if we Muslims did not make such a big deal about the FB page and would have just started an informational campaign from the jump without the dramatics, the page would have faded into oblivion but we ended up giving it the most press.


/rant

I applaud you for this....this is what I wanted to hear.

//THREAD I guess

 

[wooly willy]

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

Originally Posted by Wooly Willy

If I could chime in real quick.

As a Muslim, I would be lying if I told you that those pictures these people are drawing didn't hurt me or I wasn't offended by them. This is a man that is dearer to Muslims than our own parents. However, I will say that these ridiculous attacks on the Prophet (P) are not new in the least bit. Personally, the personality and character of Prophet Muhammad (P) was one of the central reasons I become so interested in Islam. The more I read about him, the more I was certain that Islam was not only the correct way but the way I need to live my life. As I began to learn Arabic, I discovered a world of centuries of untranslated works by classical Islamic scholars that gave a wonderful defense of the Prophet against the baseless claims of the medieval Europeans that Muhammad was some sort of demon, possessed soul or just an outright liar. Like I said before, one of the personal reasons I was so attracted to Islam is because I studied the life of Muhammad from both Islamic and critical points of views and came to the conclusion that not only was he a sincere person but was what he claimed to be. These cartoons or any of these criticisms do not affect my beliefs in the least bit and in these last few years, I realized that every time someone wants to debate on the issue, they never really have any good points to back up their claims in regards to the Prophet's character. I know that the majority of these people drawing these pictures are mostly ignorant in the issue and are just following the hype claiming to be in defense of freedom of speech which is clearly not the case. It is interesting that if I established a Facebook group promoting negative, stereotypical images of Jewish figures, for example, I would be instantly labeled an anti-Semite and would have all forums for my expression closed off. These offensive pictures are not an expression of free speech but just a front to express hatred for a misunderstood religion. If anyone is truly convinced of their beliefs that Muhammad was an evil man or anything like that, then I would be more than happy to engage in discussion but otherwise it is just a waste of time and words fallen on deaf ears.

Another important thing is that I think it is important that we Muslims learn how to react to these situations in a more constructive manner. These images are horribly offensive and there should be an informational movement that debunks these myths/stereotypes of the Prophet and spread correct information. Reacting with violence is never gonna solve anything. Like I said, these people have been attacking the Prophet (P) for centuries and half of the things these people are claiming in 2010 were debated and debunked in 1010. We should make sure we are familiar with our own history so we can make intellectual counterarguments rather than reacting in blind rage or in a stream of nonsensical cuss words on FB. Honestly, if we Muslims did not make such a big deal about the FB page and would have just started an informational campaign from the jump without the dramatics, the page would have faded into oblivion but we ended up giving it the most press.


/rant

I applaud you for this....this is what I wanted to hear.

//THREAD I guess

Honestly, this is what Islam calls for and this is the tradition of the Prophet. A story about the Prophet that truly amazed me was about a time he was walking through the city when he saw an elderly woman packing up all her stuff and loading it on her camel. The Prophet saw this so he began assisting her and asked her why she was moving. She began talking about how there was a man named Muhammad who began preaching an evil message, a man who is turning the children against the elders, a man who came to seize power, etc. He let her go on without saying anything for hours and just helped her move everything while remaining silent and listening courteously to the elderly woman. After they finished and he was walking away, she began thanking him and praising him for his courtesy and asked what his name was. He said "I'm Muhammad" and continued walking. The old lady was so touched that she decided to become Muslim on the spot. The life of the Prophet is filled with stories like this but people want to conveniently overlook them. He didn't automatically behead the lady or call his followers to do so. Its the propagation of misinformation because these people are "our enemies" and what vilifies the enemy more than protraying them as a savage people following a savage religion. Leave it to us to go to the Middle East and civilize them like the Europeans civilized our ancestors in Africa.

It's also ironic that the same people who established this FB page call for freedom of speech and draw these hateful images claiming to be willing to give their lives for my right to say anything I want but probably wouldn't hesitate to rightfully slap me if I began insulting their mothers in their faces. Don't be fooled, this whole "Draw Muhammad Day" isn't a way to promote free speech but just a way to incite anger and show the world how violent Muslims can get if we insult them enough.

 

[lobotomybeats]

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

Imagine if Scientologists started murking people for drawing aliens.

That's be hilarious.  A bunch of rich people killing in the name of upping their OT Levels.  Aww, I feel sorry for Scientologist, actually.  In a world of 'your religion is nuttier than mine' they constantly unjustly lose.  



Wooly Willy, can you pass this along to appropriate parties?

 

[f a y b a n]

What is the point of that lobotomybeats?

 

[lobotomybeats]

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

Originally Posted by rashi

I think it's kind of ironic that Atheists spend their lives trying to prove religion is a farce. Seems like their more fixated on religion than people who are religious.

I'm not tryna prove anything, i'm condemning hatred, subjugation, and violence.

Same here.  Regardless of how religious you are, never should killing in the name of your god be a viable option. 

 

[lobotomybeats]

Originally Posted by F A Y B A N

What is the point of that lobotomybeats?

Well if people are going to kill in the name of their god, I wanted them to know what Tyler Perry was up to...

 

[hybridsoldier23]

Originally Posted by Mark Antony

Atheists nowadays have the most forceful, disrespectful belief system. That's why even though i'm not entirely religious, i refuse to associate with atheist orgs.

I just don't get this way of thinking. Most anything anyone does is disrespectful to some other culture in one way or another.

If you're religious and believe in a god then most likely you feel that there is some kind of cosmic punishment system.

Since I do not believe in said system aren't you disrespecting me by believing that I will be punished off YOUR definition of moral character and values? Isn't it disrespectful to hold me to such values considering I don't agree with them?

 

[f a y b a n]

So to sympathize with non violent Muslims who are offended by this, you have to side with the extremists too?  This is ridiculous. Religious people are not the only ones who commit crime.  Is it better if it's for economic benefit?  
It's like spitting in someone's face, and then wanting to talk with them about why they are offended.  

I thought the point of atheism was to take yourself out of the religious process/sphere.  Do you practice atheism?  

 

[lobotomybeats]

Originally Posted by F A Y B A N

I thought the point of atheism was to take yourself out of the religious process/sphere.  Do you practice atheism?  

There isn't really a WILL to atheism.  I guess what I mean is Atheism is the understanding that there isn't a god, not an attempt to separate yourself from those that believe there is one. If anything, Atheist are called to mingle upon people that they think are undoubtedly wrong more often than anyone else.

 

[blackxme]

Originally Posted by Mark Antony

Atheists nowadays have the most forceful, disrespectful belief system. That's why even though i'm not entirely religious, i refuse to associate with atheist orgs.

Any reasons to back this up?

 

[f a y b a n]

Originally Posted by lobotomybeats

Originally Posted by F A Y B A N

I thought the point of atheism was to take yourself out of the religious process/sphere.  Do you practice atheism?  

There isn't really a WILL to atheism.  I guess what I mean is Atheism is the understanding that there isn't a god, not an attempt to separate yourself from those that believe there is one. If anything, Atheist are called to mingle upon people that they think are undoubtedly wrong more often than anyone else.

I'm not talking about physically disassociating from those who practice a faith.  I mean in the sense like a vegetarian is a non-meat eater so they aren't really concerned with those that do.  Antitheism seems more appropriate.  You guys look like P.I.T.A.  Some valid points but represented by the worst possible advocates.

 

[hybridsoldier23]

Originally Posted by F A Y B A N

Originally Posted by lobotomybeats

Originally Posted by F A Y B A N

I thought the point of atheism was to take yourself out of the religious process/sphere.  Do you practice atheism?  

There isn't really a WILL to atheism.  I guess what I mean is Atheism is the understanding that there isn't a god, not an attempt to separate yourself from those that believe there is one. If anything, Atheist are called to mingle upon people that they think are undoubtedly wrong more often than anyone else.

I'm not talking about physically disassociating from those who practice a faith.  I mean in the sense like a vegetarian is a non-meat eater so they aren't really concerned with those that do.  Antitheism seems more appropriate.  You guys look like P.I.T.A.  Some valid points but represented by the worst possible advocates.

I think you mean PETA and I would say that in terms of historically being represented by the worst possible advocates the Catholic church has that on lock.

 

[f a y b a n]

Originally Posted by HybridSoldier23

Originally Posted by F A Y B A N

Originally Posted by lobotomybeats

Originally Posted by F A Y B A N

I thought the point of atheism was to take yourself out of the religious process/sphere.  Do you practice atheism?  

There isn't really a WILL to atheism.  I guess what I mean is Atheism is the understanding that there isn't a god, not an attempt to separate yourself from those that believe there is one. If anything, Atheist are called to mingle upon people that they think are undoubtedly wrong more often than anyone else.

I'm not talking about physically disassociating from those who practice a faith.  I mean in the sense like a vegetarian is a non-meat eater so they aren't really concerned with those that do.  Antitheism seems more appropriate.  You guys look like P.I.T.A.  Some valid points but represented by the worst possible advocates.

I think you mean PETA and I would say that in terms of historically being represented by the worst possible advocates the Catholic church has that on lock.

 It's not like I typed CORNBREAD.  But why do you keep coming back to the crimes committed by the religious community when pedophiles are represented in every and any sectioned group.  Should we hate all Germans because of Hitler?  All white people because of how their ancestors laid the foundation of this country?  
All I'm trying to say it stop pointing out religious people when everyone commits crime.

 

[rko2004]

Originally Posted by DeadsetAce

whatever...not even going to get into the real or fake part...but religion sucks. it's the cause of so many major problems in the world

Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah.

Religion isn't the cause. PEOPLE who use it for their own selfish and malicious motives are bad.

 

[hybridsoldier23]

Originally Posted by F A Y B A N

Originally Posted by HybridSoldier23

Originally Posted by F A Y B A N

Originally Posted by lobotomybeats

Originally Posted by F A Y B A N

I thought the point of atheism was to take yourself out of the religious process/sphere.  Do you practice atheism?  

There isn't really a WILL to atheism.  I guess what I mean is Atheism is the understanding that there isn't a god, not an attempt to separate yourself from those that believe there is one. If anything, Atheist are called to mingle upon people that they think are undoubtedly wrong more often than anyone else.

I'm not talking about physically disassociating from those who practice a faith.  I mean in the sense like a vegetarian is a non-meat eater so they aren't really concerned with those that do.  Antitheism seems more appropriate.  You guys look like P.I.T.A.  Some valid points but represented by the worst possible advocates.

I think you mean PETA and I would say that in terms of historically being represented by the worst possible advocates the Catholic church has that on lock.

 It's not like I typed CORNBREAD.  But why do you keep coming back to the crimes committed by the religious community when pedophiles are represented in every and any sectioned group.  Should we hate all Germans because of Hitler?  All white people because of how their ancestors laid the foundation of this country?  
All I'm trying to say it stop pointing out religious people when everyone commits crime.

I'm not talking about pedo's...

I'm talking about the massive way that the catholic church has negatively influenced various cultures and history with the various acts of war, repression, pillaging, revisionism, document destroying, and tyranny.

You brought up the fact that atheists are represented by the worst possible advocates. All you need to do is take a look at what Catholicism and their leaders have wrought over the past millienia.

 

[lobotomybeats]

Originally Posted by RKO2004

Originally Posted by DeadsetAce

whatever...not even going to get into the real or fake part...but religion sucks. it's the cause of so many major problems in the world

Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah.

Religion isn't the cause. PEOPLE who use it for their own selfish and malicious motives are bad.

I respectfully disagree.  A world without religion would be such a beautiful, peaceful world free of illusion.  Ahh, what a sight that would be. 

 

[f a y b a n]

Originally Posted by HybridSoldier23

Originally Posted by F A Y B A N

Originally Posted by HybridSoldier23

Originally Posted by F A Y B A N

Originally Posted by lobotomybeats

Originally Posted by F A Y B A N

I thought the point of atheism was to take yourself out of the religious process/sphere.  Do you practice atheism?  

There isn't really a WILL to atheism.  I guess what I mean is Atheism is the understanding that there isn't a god, not an attempt to separate yourself from those that believe there is one. If anything, Atheist are called to mingle upon people that they think are undoubtedly wrong more often than anyone else.

I'm not talking about physically disassociating from those who practice a faith.  I mean in the sense like a vegetarian is a non-meat eater so they aren't really concerned with those that do.  Antitheism seems more appropriate.  You guys look like P.I.T.A.  Some valid points but represented by the worst possible advocates.

I think you mean PETA and I would say that in terms of historically being represented by the worst possible advocates the Catholic church has that on lock.

 It's not like I typed CORNBREAD.  But why do you keep coming back to the crimes committed by the religious community when pedophiles are represented in every and any sectioned group.  Should we hate all Germans because of Hitler?  All white people because of how their ancestors laid the foundation of this country?  
All I'm trying to say it stop pointing out religious people when everyone commits crime.

I'm not talking about pedo's...

I'm talking about the massive way that America has negatively influenced various cultures and history with the various acts of war, repression, pillaging, revisionism, document destroying, and tyranny.

Fixed. Not what does that prove? All Americans are bad people?

 

[hybridsoldier23]

Originally Posted by F A Y B A N

Originally Posted by HybridSoldier23

Originally Posted by F A Y B A N

Originally Posted by HybridSoldier23

Originally Posted by F A Y B A N

Originally Posted by lobotomybeats

Originally Posted by F A Y B A N

I thought the point of atheism was to take yourself out of the religious process/sphere.  Do you practice atheism?  

There isn't really a WILL to atheism.  I guess what I mean is Atheism is the understanding that there isn't a god, not an attempt to separate yourself from those that believe there is one. If anything, Atheist are called to mingle upon people that they think are undoubtedly wrong more often than anyone else.

I'm not talking about physically disassociating from those who practice a faith.  I mean in the sense like a vegetarian is a non-meat eater so they aren't really concerned with those that do.  Antitheism seems more appropriate.  You guys look like P.I.T.A.  Some valid points but represented by the worst possible advocates.

I think you mean PETA and I would say that in terms of historically being represented by the worst possible advocates the Catholic church has that on lock.

 It's not like I typed CORNBREAD.  But why do you keep coming back to the crimes committed by the religious community when pedophiles are represented in every and any sectioned group.  Should we hate all Germans because of Hitler?  All white people because of how their ancestors laid the foundation of this country?  
All I'm trying to say it stop pointing out religious people when everyone commits crime.

I'm not talking about pedo's...

I'm talking about the massive way that America has negatively influenced various cultures and history with the various acts of war, repression, pillaging, revisionism, document destroying, and tyranny.

Fixed. Not what does that prove? All Americans are bad people?

How are you going to turn this into a political discussion when it's about religion? Keep backpedaling.

You were the one who said that athiests were represented by the worst possible advocates and I made a rebuttal that if anyone has the worst possible advocates it's the Catholic church.

Now it's about the American government?

I'm following a logical path of discussion and you're trying to prove some point that I didn't even chime in on. Go ahead, keep spouting off but while you're at it please throw in some reasons why atheists have a more sullied history than the catholic church.

 

[rko2004]

Originally Posted by lobotomybeats

Originally Posted by RKO2004

Originally Posted by DeadsetAce

whatever...not even going to get into the real or fake part...but religion sucks. it's the cause of so many major problems in the world

Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah.

Religion isn't the cause. PEOPLE who use it for their own selfish and malicious motives are bad.

I respectfully disagree.  A world without religion would be such a beautiful, peaceful world free of illusion.  Ahh, what a sight that would be. 

Dude the violence in this world would be out of control.

The murder scale would sky rocket if it was confirmed there wasn't a God.

 

[f a y b a n]

Originally Posted by HybridSoldier23

Originally Posted by F A Y B A N

Originally Posted by HybridSoldier23

Originally Posted by F A Y B A N

Originally Posted by HybridSoldier23

Originally Posted by F A Y B A N

Originally Posted by lobotomybeats

Originally Posted by F A Y B A N

I thought the point of atheism was to take yourself out of the religious process/sphere.  Do you practice atheism?  

There isn't really a WILL to atheism.  I guess what I mean is Atheism is the understanding that there isn't a god, not an attempt to separate yourself from those that believe there is one. If anything, Atheist are called to mingle upon people that they think are undoubtedly wrong more often than anyone else.

I'm not talking about physically disassociating from those who practice a faith.  I mean in the sense like a vegetarian is a non-meat eater so they aren't really concerned with those that do.  Antitheism seems more appropriate.  You guys look like P.I.T.A.  Some valid points but represented by the worst possible advocates.

I think you mean PETA and I would say that in terms of historically being represented by the worst possible advocates the Catholic church has that on lock.

 It's not like I typed CORNBREAD.  But why do you keep coming back to the crimes committed by the religious community when pedophiles are represented in every and any sectioned group.  Should we hate all Germans because of Hitler?  All white people because of how their ancestors laid the foundation of this country?  
All I'm trying to say it stop pointing out religious people when everyone commits crime.

I'm not talking about pedo's...

I'm talking about the massive way that America has negatively influenced various cultures and history with the various acts of war, repression, pillaging, revisionism, document destroying, and tyranny.

Fixed. Not what does that prove? All Americans are bad people?

How are you going to turn this into a political discussion when it's about religion? Keep backpedaling.

You were the one who said that athiests were represented by the worst possible advocates and I made a rebuttal that if anyone has the worst possible advocates it's the Catholic church.

Now it's about the American government?

I'm following a logical path of discussion and you're trying to prove some point that I didn't even chime in on. Go ahead, keep spouting off but while you're at it please throw in some reasons why atheists have a more sullied history than the catholic church.

I'm not turning anything political.  If you are going to talk about crime and how it's committed in greater proportions by the religious, I think it deserves context.  I never said atheists have the worst advocates.  I brought up PETA because when most people think of them, they think of tossing paint on fur coats, breaking into labatories to free animals, and it ends up deviating from their overall message.  If drawing comical depictions of Mohammad is your way of starting a dialogue with those your opposed to, by all means do your thing.  I just don't think it's going to get anywhere.

 

[lobotomybeats]

Originally Posted by RKO2004

Originally Posted by lobotomybeats

Originally Posted by RKO2004

Originally Posted by DeadsetAce

whatever...not even going to get into the real or fake part...but religion sucks. it's the cause of so many major problems in the world

Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah.

Religion isn't the cause. PEOPLE who use it for their own selfish and malicious motives are bad.

I respectfully disagree.  A world without religion would be such a beautiful, peaceful world free of illusion.  Ahh, what a sight that would be. 

Dude the violence in this world would be out of control.

The murder scale would sky rocket if it was confirmed there wasn't a God.

You think God is what keeps people from killing?  Something with no proof of its existence keeps people in check?  Those that don't believe in god aren't morally bankrupt.  It doesn't take a god to know that taking another man's life is wrong. 

 

[rko2004]

Originally Posted by lobotomybeats

Originally Posted by RKO2004

Originally Posted by lobotomybeats

Originally Posted by RKO2004

Originally Posted by DeadsetAce

whatever...not even going to get into the real or fake part...but religion sucks. it's the cause of so many major problems in the world

Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah.

Religion isn't the cause. PEOPLE who use it for their own selfish and malicious motives are bad.

I respectfully disagree.  A world without religion would be such a beautiful, peaceful world free of illusion.  Ahh, what a sight that would be. 

Dude the violence in this world would be out of control.

The murder scale would sky rocket if it was confirmed there wasn't a God.

You think God is what keeps people from killing?  Something with no proof of its existence keeps people in check?  Those that don't believe in god aren't morally bankrupt.  It doesn't take a god to know that taking another man's life is wrong. 

You think so huh? You think we just automatically knew it was wrong? Amazing you feel that way. What about the animal kingdom? Their code is survival of the fittest. So you're saying we just evolved and established all these rules on our own? BS. With no central source of power, you feel we evolved and made the alphabet, number system and everything that followed?

 

[hybridsoldier23]

Originally Posted by F A Y B A N

Originally Posted by HybridSoldier23

Originally Posted by F A Y B A N

Originally Posted by HybridSoldier23

Originally Posted by F A Y B A N

Originally Posted by HybridSoldier23

Originally Posted by F A Y B A N

Originally Posted by lobotomybeats

Originally Posted by F A Y B A N

I thought the point of atheism was to take yourself out of the religious process/sphere.  Do you practice atheism?  

There isn't really a WILL to atheism.  I guess what I mean is Atheism is the understanding that there isn't a god, not an attempt to separate yourself from those that believe there is one. If anything, Atheist are called to mingle upon people that they think are undoubtedly wrong more often than anyone else.

I'm not talking about physically disassociating from those who practice a faith.  I mean in the sense like a vegetarian is a non-meat eater so they aren't really concerned with those that do.  Antitheism seems more appropriate.  You guys look like P.I.T.A.  Some valid points but represented by the worst possible advocates.

I think you mean PETA and I would say that in terms of historically being represented by the worst possible advocates the Catholic church has that on lock.

 It's not like I typed CORNBREAD.  But why do you keep coming back to the crimes committed by the religious community when pedophiles are represented in every and any sectioned group.  Should we hate all Germans because of Hitler?  All white people because of how their ancestors laid the foundation of this country?  
All I'm trying to say it stop pointing out religious people when everyone commits crime.

I'm not talking about pedo's...

I'm talking about the massive way that America has negatively influenced various cultures and history with the various acts of war, repression, pillaging, revisionism, document destroying, and tyranny.

Fixed. Not what does that prove? All Americans are bad people?

How are you going to turn this into a political discussion when it's about religion? Keep backpedaling.

You were the one who said that athiests were represented by the worst possible advocates and I made a rebuttal that if anyone has the worst possible advocates it's the Catholic church.

Now it's about the American government?

I'm following a logical path of discussion and you're trying to prove some point that I didn't even chime in on. Go ahead, keep spouting off but while you're at it please throw in some reasons why atheists have a more sullied history than the catholic church.

I'm not turning anything political.  If you are going to talk about crime and how it's committed in greater proportions by the religious, I think it deserves context.  I never said atheists have the worst advocates.  I brought up PETA because when most people think of them, they think of tossing paint on fur coats, breaking into labatories to free animals, and it ends up deviating from their overall message.  If drawing comical depictions of Mohammad is your way of starting a dialogue with those your opposed to, by all means do your thing.  I just don't think it's going to get anywhere.

The crimes of the catholic church through history>the crimes of America. It's not close, there's no question, there way more injustice done on a much larger scale which much larger ramifications.

I never said atheists have the worst advocates.
.....

You guys look like P.I.T.A.  Some valid points but represented by the worst possible advocates.
I expressed my opinion on who the worst possible advocates for a group of people are and you can't come back with anything saying why atheists are more horribly represented. I'm done here.

 

[shaunhillftw49]

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

2. I did not make ANY of those drawings but I support it........the tasteful ones at least

 

Why? It offeds non-extremist muslims  as well.    Doing it just to be an a-hole?
  

 

[f a y b a n]

This is semantics.  You're nitpicking words but avoiding the overall message.  Is this an exercise is relativism where only the worst offenders are worth railing against?  I don't disagree with the fact that Muslims, Catholics, and the religious have committed bad deeds.  But the worst of the bunch don't represent the entirety, and if offending everybody is the only way to prove your point then I don't agree with it.