darthska
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- Apr 30, 2004
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Rhea still bae but screw Kim. If she really bounced, like BOOM straight like that, just 'We're bad for each other K? Byeeeee'... 
-foe
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Better Call Saul Season Thread - Season Six - April 18th
- Apr 30, 2010
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Y'all really hate people in this universe that make rational, common sense decisions 
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darthska
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Correct. It's a show about murderous meth empires where 2 of our mains appear to be just a science teacher and a restaurateur despite being highly manipulative criminals. Anyone making rational decisions can get on over to Malcom in the Middle.Y'all really hate people in this universe that make rational, common sense decisions
-foe
- Apr 30, 2010
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Nah but y'all hate them too, asking for violent deaths for everyone. Viewers admit these are bad people but no one in the story should recognize that and act accordingly.
akajae
formerly akajaedeuce
- Sep 2, 2005
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Eff that rational methhead
darthska
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I just can't get over how quickly Kim's character has completely changed. I been rocking with her hardcore this whole time, cute lil ponytail & strooooong law game & the ride or die mentality... but the ponytail's gone, gave up law, and ride or die? She dipped!
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- Jul 29, 2005
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I mean, Jimmy is truly a scumbag tho, always was. The writers just did a good job in making us like him lol. Jimmy deserves everything he gets. Kim just realized what she can become staying with Jimmy. She was just smart enough to get as far away as possible, that's a sensible solution I'd say. Come on now, Jimmy preys and exploits weak people, that's who he is, lawyer or not. Him being a lawyer is actually a superpower for who he is lmao.
- Oct 9, 2006
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Well, I can imagine Howard's execution could be quite traumatic for Kim.
akajae
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Kim just as bad at Saul.
- Dec 11, 2006
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Haven't seen this brought up, but in any of the last two episodes, do we think we'll see how Saul poisons Brock?
It's something I've always wanted to find out how
It's something I've always wanted to find out how
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Kind of a long read, but this analysis is brilliant:
Something to keep in mind here is that BCS has always had ten episodes a season. Each episode number had its own corresponding intro, ten in total that degraded over the course of the show. The natural arc of this is that the tenth episode of the final season should logically be the final episode. And if you saw Nippy and were told that it was the series finale, you'd probably believe it. Regardless of what you think of the quality of the episode, the last plot threads were pretty solidly wrapped up in this one. The resolution to the Jeff plotline was several seasons in the making, and we see Gene dip back into the Slippin' Jimmy/Saul lifestyle to get himself out of one last jam. When confronting the Jimmy/Saul outfit in the store, he hangs it back up on the rack. That part of his life changed him to an unbelievable degree, but he got past it. It's over now. He's at peace.
So after all that, a happy ending? No. There's an eleventh episode.
Gene doesn't know the rules of his own show. He can't recognize the natural conclusion. He keeps playing the tape, even though there's no more tape to play. We're out of intros. We just get a corrupted VHS mess as he drags this out a bit longer and dips back in.
In the same way, we're sort of in Gene's shoes. We know there's three episodes left. And we have other questions. Probably at the forefront of our minds is: Where are Walt and Jesse? We were told they'd be here. Now, to be clear, the show works without them. There's no explicit reason to dive back into that storyline. There's a whole other show for that. But we'd like to see them all the same. We're curious, itching to go back to that time of our lives. Just like Gene. And that's what we get. The instant the show moves past its obvious conclusion, we get "Breaking Bad" and a flashback to a scene with Walt and Jesse that we've already seen. We're getting exactly what we want.
Gene plays a slightly different, but related game. He goes and makes the phone call that attentive viewers have been waiting for since season 4. We want answers, and so does he. But Francesca doesn't have anything to give him. Because really, there's no reason for him to be calling. He can't go back to Albuquerque. And there's no one there that he cares about. He's initially punished by learning that his money is gone, which he could have lived the rest of his life without knowing had he just let the story end. But now it's in his head. And the phone call's almost over. And he doesn't want it to be over. So he starts reaching, asking questions about arbitrary side characters and dropping a few names that that plenty of us don't even remember. Francesca even looks confused as to why he's asking, and she doesn't really have the answers because she hasn't thought about it. While we were watching, my friend described this scene as "the fans calling Vince to ask him about fan theories," and we laughed at the time, but the more we thought about it, the more we realized that's pretty much what it was. Gene's just trying to wrap up loose ends that never needed to be wrapped up, even spinning a "Bill Oakley is gay" fan theory that doesn't pan out. The show is over. There are no more loose ends.
Well, that's not quite true. There's one. Interestingly, Gene forgets to ask about it, implying he's forgotten about it and has moved on. But Pandora's Box is open now. And Francesca, almost out of pity for not being able to give Gene anything, lets him know the one thing that's left: that Kim called. Gene probably could have gone the rest of his life without tugging on the Kim thread, and he almost does. But he goes back, because, as the Breaking Bad flashbacks and his return to con artistry and his return to the house and the existence of the episode itself show, he can't quite leave well enough alone. And he calls Kim, which inevitably goes poorly. And the sunk costs of all the work he's done wash over him in one big wave, and he spirals back into something that's almost guaranteed to go poorly as well.
There was no reason for him to make that call except to be reminded that he'd lost his money, his legacy, and, most likely, his wife, forever. If he'd just gone about his life having moved on from those things and leaving the Kim plotline uncertain, he'd probably have been fine. But like Chuck said, our precious Jimmy just can't keep his hands out of the cash drawer. Maybe that's not always who he always was, and maybe that's not who he was destined to be. But it's who he is now, and he refuses to accept that there's nothing left from his old life, even when all signs point to that being the case. And when confronted with harsh, inescapable reality, he slips.
Both Gene and the audience want to squeeze out a little bit more. We want to bring color back into this black and white world, stretch the show out with a small dose of nostalgia for the good times. Running cons, watching Breaking Bad. It's fun. And it's not useless. We'll get a little money, a little dopamine boost, even some extra character development and depth to the Breaking Bad universe. But those things were always hiding darker secrets, and bringing them back comes at a cost.
So after all that, a happy ending? No. There's an eleventh episode.
Gene doesn't know the rules of his own show. He can't recognize the natural conclusion. He keeps playing the tape, even though there's no more tape to play. We're out of intros. We just get a corrupted VHS mess as he drags this out a bit longer and dips back in.
In the same way, we're sort of in Gene's shoes. We know there's three episodes left. And we have other questions. Probably at the forefront of our minds is: Where are Walt and Jesse? We were told they'd be here. Now, to be clear, the show works without them. There's no explicit reason to dive back into that storyline. There's a whole other show for that. But we'd like to see them all the same. We're curious, itching to go back to that time of our lives. Just like Gene. And that's what we get. The instant the show moves past its obvious conclusion, we get "Breaking Bad" and a flashback to a scene with Walt and Jesse that we've already seen. We're getting exactly what we want.
Gene plays a slightly different, but related game. He goes and makes the phone call that attentive viewers have been waiting for since season 4. We want answers, and so does he. But Francesca doesn't have anything to give him. Because really, there's no reason for him to be calling. He can't go back to Albuquerque. And there's no one there that he cares about. He's initially punished by learning that his money is gone, which he could have lived the rest of his life without knowing had he just let the story end. But now it's in his head. And the phone call's almost over. And he doesn't want it to be over. So he starts reaching, asking questions about arbitrary side characters and dropping a few names that that plenty of us don't even remember. Francesca even looks confused as to why he's asking, and she doesn't really have the answers because she hasn't thought about it. While we were watching, my friend described this scene as "the fans calling Vince to ask him about fan theories," and we laughed at the time, but the more we thought about it, the more we realized that's pretty much what it was. Gene's just trying to wrap up loose ends that never needed to be wrapped up, even spinning a "Bill Oakley is gay" fan theory that doesn't pan out. The show is over. There are no more loose ends.
Well, that's not quite true. There's one. Interestingly, Gene forgets to ask about it, implying he's forgotten about it and has moved on. But Pandora's Box is open now. And Francesca, almost out of pity for not being able to give Gene anything, lets him know the one thing that's left: that Kim called. Gene probably could have gone the rest of his life without tugging on the Kim thread, and he almost does. But he goes back, because, as the Breaking Bad flashbacks and his return to con artistry and his return to the house and the existence of the episode itself show, he can't quite leave well enough alone. And he calls Kim, which inevitably goes poorly. And the sunk costs of all the work he's done wash over him in one big wave, and he spirals back into something that's almost guaranteed to go poorly as well.
There was no reason for him to make that call except to be reminded that he'd lost his money, his legacy, and, most likely, his wife, forever. If he'd just gone about his life having moved on from those things and leaving the Kim plotline uncertain, he'd probably have been fine. But like Chuck said, our precious Jimmy just can't keep his hands out of the cash drawer. Maybe that's not always who he always was, and maybe that's not who he was destined to be. But it's who he is now, and he refuses to accept that there's nothing left from his old life, even when all signs point to that being the case. And when confronted with harsh, inescapable reality, he slips.
Both Gene and the audience want to squeeze out a little bit more. We want to bring color back into this black and white world, stretch the show out with a small dose of nostalgia for the good times. Running cons, watching Breaking Bad. It's fun. And it's not useless. We'll get a little money, a little dopamine boost, even some extra character development and depth to the Breaking Bad universe. But those things were always hiding darker secrets, and bringing them back comes at a cost.
- May 2, 2012
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Do ya'll think Jimmy/Saul went hard at the cancer dude because of how much Walter screwed them up, so it was like a FU to Walt? Or would he have done it whether he met WW or not?
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He's always going to be mad @ Walter for blowing everything up, but I'm pretty sure he would've done it anyway.
I also think there's a lot of jealousy there as well.
Walter most likely would've died a nobody had he not met Saul, he knew absolutely nothing about that world, all he knew was cooking.
Saul gave him access to insane profit w/ insulation from the law and never really got any credit for the empire that was built.
I think this bothers Saul, the same way it bothered Walt when Gretchen + Elliot tried to make it seem like Walt essentially contributed nothing to Gray Matter outside of the name.
- Oct 9, 2006
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I think it's partly due to his experiences with ppl who have been sick... like Chuck and Walt... that they can still be a**holes.
And, of course, this is all post-phone call with Kim... he's probably still sad/angry about that... and needs his 'fix' of conning ppl. He probably doesn't care about hurting others anymore.
- Dec 11, 2007
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Walt poisoned Brock.
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Reddit - Dive into anything
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- Jul 29, 2005
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Dope how this episode was called Breaking Bad and the companion flashback episode was called Better Call Saul
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Man they got Howard head blow off, I was starting to feel sorry for dude.
- Nov 20, 2007
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That traitorous snitch deserves to die.
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darthska
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Wait ppl thought Walt got Saul to poison Brock?
- Dec 11, 2006
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Why was I always under the impression that Walt got Saul to do it for him?
I guess what I remember was Walt purposefully waiting in his house before that confrontation with Jesse, to only have Saul do it for him, without needing to leave the house.
My bad.
darthska
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Oh when Saul told buddy "A guy with cancer can't be an a-hole? I'm speaking from experience," I was definitely like...
-foe
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Oh, that was a Gus reference
