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They Just do it to get likes & attention cats these days ain't bout starting no real life movement they just talking loud & saying nothing...
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This is true. Homo Sapiens did migrate out of Africa, but some stayed. As these groups got away from Africa they developed and adapted to their environment which formed different subgroups. As time went on these groups mutated and became their own distinct people with different DNA markers. Most Africans belong to the Haplogroup E-V38: E1b1a while Asians and Europeans belong other groups.
From Wikipedia:
"E-V38 reaches frequencies of over 80% in many parts of West Africa, Central Africa, East Africa as well as Southern Africa.[13] This haplogroup's frequency and diversity are highest in the West Africa region. Within Africa, E-V38 displays a west-to-east as well as a south-to-north clinal distribution. In other words, the frequency of the haplogroup decreases as one moves from western and southern Africa toward the eastern and northern parts of the continent."
"The Trans-Atlantic slave trade brought 4.4% of slaves to North America and 93.6% of slaves to Central America and South America including the Caribbean.Consequently, the haplogroup is often observed in the United States in men who self-identify as African Americans. It has also been observed in a number of populations in Mexico, the Caribbean, Central America, and South America among people of African descent."
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-V38
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Just watched Dear White People. Not sure what to think about it. Anyone else here seen it?
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Didn't even know it was out so soon.
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I'm in the theater now. I already read spoilers and wasn't surprised because no way a truly militant movie would get the green light.
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Just wanted to add something new to the thread...I think its crazy that you hear the rappers talking about getting out "THE HOOD" but you never hear these clowns trying to improve our poor communities...Down here there is still blight from HURRICANE KATRINA but BIRDMAN will spend $2 MILL on a BUGATTI but won't help fix some of our neighborhoods down here...All he can manage to do is give free turkeys away at THANKSGIVING...All these dudes talk this RICH ***** talk but won't put any businesses or community centers in our neighborhoods to help uplift our people...
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How was it?
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It wasn't bad, nothing amazing. More so dealing with identity than a film truly calling out racism.
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This is more or less how I felt. Even if it wasn't quite the crusade I had made it up to be in my mind, I liked that they brought some relevant black issues into a mainstream movie. I think every black person has had a few of those lames who try to talk 'black' to you; and seeing this experience (and others) reflected on the silver screen was encouraging to me.
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I liked the film alot.
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I had this conversation with my sociology class on the myth/new order view in America, and I asked everybody what they thought about American culture and politics, and I thought it was a very interesting thing that everybody had some real raw opinions on America but nobody would agree that America was no longer the greatest country in the world, alot of them even said that they rather live here despite what they know(or believe) till' I showed them this clip of the 2012 HBO series "the Newsroom" and the room got a little quiet-
I had one ex-mililtary, marine, navy or whatever the hell he was have a problem that I brought up the topic and disagreed without any factual rebuttal of course, and I told him to go look it up, and go look into other countries since he believed that the US was the only land he could trust, I directed him to one Yahoo answers page that had some constructive comments and soon after he didn't even care to argue; https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130220124355AAggIzs
Got a breath of realism from it all, the haul of American culture, not just from americans but the whole entire world, not western culture but American culture, we give a great deal of importance to it, the sex driven, material loving, celebrity chasing, rich entrepreneurism group thinking, self-important lifestyles.As Americans living in a country with the most historical content, we find it easy and necessary to make fun of smaller countries with less economic success, like bhutan, and take pride in the toxic group thinking that is todays American ethnocentrism.
Not saying that there is another greatest country but that there isn't a greatest country just what's prefferable. We are conditioned to remember things like 9/11 and the lives lost in Iraq but are told to get over slavery and the genocide of Native Americans, why? prime examples of the scare tactics by the government to keep americans afraid to leave, when in truth there are alot of other countries with much less violence and a greater chance of survival. Instead of that being the status quo, black crime, muslim crime, and hispanic crime is.
I've knee jerked in my advancement of making art of black culture in America, don't get me wrong, black culture in America has been probably the most prominent in black culture ever, but we have become so closely assimilated that our culture in America has now become American culture and to support it in America makes me feel like I am supporting American culture and feeding other people(other blacks) into this ethnocentrism that Americans are better than everyone else when I probably don't care for any American principles at all. I planned after school, to go back home but I'm thinking instead of taking a permanent leave from the states, I've had a team with me working on multiple things and we were planning on doing a lot of things and building together in our area but I'm thinking of taking the show off of US soil and doing what I can to support my brothers from there and help who I can realize that the American way of life is not the only way. Not naive to believe that people from other countries are much different, or not ethnocentric in there own ways but I think I could get a more constructive environment in a country whose culture didn't consist of being an elitist or embrace such self-importance.
Blacks, in a way, feel privileged to live in America, love the overhaul of sex on every corner, the worship of material possesions, access to new, useless technology, and the unwarranted love/fanatism of celebrities. Those are all American qualities that most Americans feel entitled to, that the smaller envious countries try to follow, the reality of it is that we might be so deeply assimilated that the next progressive step for blacks in America, sometime, maybe not in the near future, maybe..... out.
I had one ex-mililtary, marine, navy or whatever the hell he was have a problem that I brought up the topic and disagreed without any factual rebuttal of course, and I told him to go look it up, and go look into other countries since he believed that the US was the only land he could trust, I directed him to one Yahoo answers page that had some constructive comments and soon after he didn't even care to argue; https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130220124355AAggIzs
Got a breath of realism from it all, the haul of American culture, not just from americans but the whole entire world, not western culture but American culture, we give a great deal of importance to it, the sex driven, material loving, celebrity chasing, rich entrepreneurism group thinking, self-important lifestyles.As Americans living in a country with the most historical content, we find it easy and necessary to make fun of smaller countries with less economic success, like bhutan, and take pride in the toxic group thinking that is todays American ethnocentrism.
Not saying that there is another greatest country but that there isn't a greatest country just what's prefferable. We are conditioned to remember things like 9/11 and the lives lost in Iraq but are told to get over slavery and the genocide of Native Americans, why? prime examples of the scare tactics by the government to keep americans afraid to leave, when in truth there are alot of other countries with much less violence and a greater chance of survival. Instead of that being the status quo, black crime, muslim crime, and hispanic crime is.
I've knee jerked in my advancement of making art of black culture in America, don't get me wrong, black culture in America has been probably the most prominent in black culture ever, but we have become so closely assimilated that our culture in America has now become American culture and to support it in America makes me feel like I am supporting American culture and feeding other people(other blacks) into this ethnocentrism that Americans are better than everyone else when I probably don't care for any American principles at all. I planned after school, to go back home but I'm thinking instead of taking a permanent leave from the states, I've had a team with me working on multiple things and we were planning on doing a lot of things and building together in our area but I'm thinking of taking the show off of US soil and doing what I can to support my brothers from there and help who I can realize that the American way of life is not the only way. Not naive to believe that people from other countries are much different, or not ethnocentric in there own ways but I think I could get a more constructive environment in a country whose culture didn't consist of being an elitist or embrace such self-importance.
Blacks, in a way, feel privileged to live in America, love the overhaul of sex on every corner, the worship of material possesions, access to new, useless technology, and the unwarranted love/fanatism of celebrities. Those are all American qualities that most Americans feel entitled to, that the smaller envious countries try to follow, the reality of it is that we might be so deeply assimilated that the next progressive step for blacks in America, sometime, maybe not in the near future, maybe..... out.
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Quincy McCall
I watched that video and I agree and disagree with its message. This thoughts expressed are funneled through a lens of the dominant society. As noted in the video, America WAS a great country a long time ago. There was a time when we fought wars for the right reasons, we made laws for moral reasons, when men were men, etc.... All while they were enslaving and disenfranchising us black folks. It's basically double speak. History tells us in order for the Western powers to be great they've had do it on the backs of black indigenous peoples.
Don't get me wrong, us African Americans do benefit from the sacrifices our ancestors made and we are now among the wealthiest of all "black" people in the world. But what does that really say about the conditions of black people are around the world?
At the end of the day the system of white supremacy is not an American thing. It's a global institution. You can't escape it by moving to Canada or moving to England. Hell you can't even go to Africa and escape it. We have to stop thinking like minorities and work together. End of story.
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@SpottieOttie305
I get that, white supremacy isn't what I meant tho, I meant cultural change, but just as well imo, American values are tenor to white supremacy around the world. I am not discrediting the sacrifices of our ancestors, rather I think that the gradual assimilation of american values is. By fighting for their rights and rebelling against the government, they were doing something illegal for what they believed in and that was generally frowned upon at the time, but that is now being written out as America being so great that they granted these oppressed people more freedom, which is such a plight in the growth of black people in America, everything is sorted out to be because of the grace of America, which is coat tail of white supremacy around the entire world.
Btw My post was in NO way a call to action, I was just sharing an observation.
I personally don't understand/like American culture, I was speaking on my personal perspective, never realized how much of American culture I didn't like till' now, didn't decide on leaving or anything yet just realized that somethings has changed. Places like Canada and England are different in the instance that they aren't as systematically racist, but very much as racist as many US cities. Had a Canadian women tell me once that all the crime that went down there is done by local gangs, people of all color, and that no races were specifically targeted for the ongoing crime that went on, but that racism is very much alive and well in Canada and just not as openly spoken about like in the U.S., making it easier for a black professional in the united states and easier socially for many minorities in the U.S.. I personally just had that thought circling my brain, on constructive ways to go about this, and ways to create a constructive environment... which has certainly become a mind ****
but I don't think I am wrong about the imprisoning effects of American culture/society...
I get that, white supremacy isn't what I meant tho, I meant cultural change, but just as well imo, American values are tenor to white supremacy around the world. I am not discrediting the sacrifices of our ancestors, rather I think that the gradual assimilation of american values is. By fighting for their rights and rebelling against the government, they were doing something illegal for what they believed in and that was generally frowned upon at the time, but that is now being written out as America being so great that they granted these oppressed people more freedom, which is such a plight in the growth of black people in America, everything is sorted out to be because of the grace of America, which is coat tail of white supremacy around the entire world.
Btw My post was in NO way a call to action, I was just sharing an observation.
I personally don't understand/like American culture, I was speaking on my personal perspective, never realized how much of American culture I didn't like till' now, didn't decide on leaving or anything yet just realized that somethings has changed. Places like Canada and England are different in the instance that they aren't as systematically racist, but very much as racist as many US cities. Had a Canadian women tell me once that all the crime that went down there is done by local gangs, people of all color, and that no races were specifically targeted for the ongoing crime that went on, but that racism is very much alive and well in Canada and just not as openly spoken about like in the U.S., making it easier for a black professional in the united states and easier socially for many minorities in the U.S.. I personally just had that thought circling my brain, on constructive ways to go about this, and ways to create a constructive environment... which has certainly become a mind ****
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but we always get called thug or gangsta
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Notice they're still coyly trying to let you know he's not considered white by showing the pic of him with the Native headdress. Same thing they did with the Boston bombers and hapa kid who shot up UCSB.
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Blacks dont do mass shootings, lol we shoot/fight the person we have an issue with, as ignorant or dumb as it may be. Only devils do that mass shooting crap.
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Just as well,
spottieottie305
you were right brother
I tend to overthink little things when I've been working too long, I don't like the respective culture but that shouldn't stop me from doing anything, quitting from one fight is definitely one too many
spottieottie305
you were right brotherI tend to overthink little things when I've been working too long, I don't like the respective culture but that shouldn't stop me from doing anything, quitting from one fight is definitely one too many
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7 Things I Can Do That My Black Son Can’t
Coming from a white dude.
Via https://www.yahoo.com/parenting/7-things-i-can-do-that-my-black-son-cant-99408985077.html
In the days after the Michael Brown shooting, I wrote an essay titled “I Hope My Son Stays White,” detailing my fears about what might happen to my biracial three-year-old son if he grows up to have dark skin. The upshot: America, to its shame, is still a place where black males are feared, and I don’t want that fear to turn itself on my son in a way that leads to his arrest or death.
I published the piece on Ebony.com, and the reactions from black readers ranged from “sad but true” to allegations that I myself was engaging in the very racism and colorism that I was decrying. But buried among these was a comment from a white reader who accused me of “sucking up to black folk” and then went on to list the supposed advantages of being black in America. (Apparently, according to this reader, my son will have an unearned fast track to a career as an air traffic controller. Um, okay?)
I can’t help but think that, if the essay had been published in an outlet with a larger white readership, many more commenters would have chimed in to deny the continued existence of racism. In my experience, white people (and straight people, and male people, and Christian people — all groups of which I’m a member) tend to dismiss the notion that we’re privileged. It’s an uncomfortable thing to acknowledge that you’re the recipient of unfair benefits, especially when those benefits are often nearly invisible to those who receive them.
But when you’re a parent, those privileges stop being invisible. It’s the reason why male congressmen with daughters are more likely to support women’s issues. It’s the reason why Ohio Sen. Rob Portman suddenly declared his support for same-sex marriage after his son came out as gay. And it’s the reason why, everywhere I look, I see hassles that my son will have to face that I don’t. Here’s a partial list of things I can take for granted, but which will likely be problematic for my son:
1. I Can Walk Through a Store Without Being Followed To take one high-profile instance, Macy’s and the city of New York recently settled with actor Robert Brown, who was handcuffed, humiliated, and accused of committing credit card fraud after buying an expensive watch at the store. I never have to worry about this happening to me.
2. I Can Succeed Without It Being Attributed to My Race When my wife, who is black, received her acceptance letter from Boston College, a peer told her she must have gotten in due to affirmative action, effectively ruining the experience of receiving the letter. When I succeed, people assume I’ve earned it.
3. I Learned About My Ancestors’ History in School I can tell you all about Louis XIV, Socrates, and the Magna Carta, but I always wondered when we would finally learn about African history (beyond Pharaohs and pyramids). The subject never came up.
4. I Can Lose My Temper in Traffic Once, an acquaintance who got into a confrontation while driving told me how scared she was of the other driver, describing him as a “big black guy.” When I get heated, no one attributes it to my race.
5. I Can Loiter in Wealthy Neighborhoods No one has ever called the cops on me to report a “suspicious person.” My wife can’t say the same.
6. I Can Complain About Racism When I point out that black people are incarcerated at alarming rates, or largely forced to send their children to underperforming schools, or face systemic discrimination when searching for jobs and housing, no one accuses me of “playing the race card.”
7. I Can Count on Being Met on My Own Terms If I’m being treated poorly, I don’t stop and think about whether it’s due to my race. But unless we somehow make a giant leap forward, my son will always have to wonder. Recently, I became a father for the second time. My daughter, only three months old, will grow up to face many of the same challenges as my son, on top of the extra ones that come with being a woman: the struggle for equal pay, the catcalling, the constant threat of sexual assault. I don’t want to give my children a complex about all of this, but I can’t wish these problems away, either. I can’t eliminate all the unfair hurdles that exist in the world. I can only do my best to raise kids who are able to jump over them.
Thoughts?
Coming from a white dude.
Via https://www.yahoo.com/parenting/7-things-i-can-do-that-my-black-son-cant-99408985077.html
In the days after the Michael Brown shooting, I wrote an essay titled “I Hope My Son Stays White,” detailing my fears about what might happen to my biracial three-year-old son if he grows up to have dark skin. The upshot: America, to its shame, is still a place where black males are feared, and I don’t want that fear to turn itself on my son in a way that leads to his arrest or death.
I published the piece on Ebony.com, and the reactions from black readers ranged from “sad but true” to allegations that I myself was engaging in the very racism and colorism that I was decrying. But buried among these was a comment from a white reader who accused me of “sucking up to black folk” and then went on to list the supposed advantages of being black in America. (Apparently, according to this reader, my son will have an unearned fast track to a career as an air traffic controller. Um, okay?)
I can’t help but think that, if the essay had been published in an outlet with a larger white readership, many more commenters would have chimed in to deny the continued existence of racism. In my experience, white people (and straight people, and male people, and Christian people — all groups of which I’m a member) tend to dismiss the notion that we’re privileged. It’s an uncomfortable thing to acknowledge that you’re the recipient of unfair benefits, especially when those benefits are often nearly invisible to those who receive them.
But when you’re a parent, those privileges stop being invisible. It’s the reason why male congressmen with daughters are more likely to support women’s issues. It’s the reason why Ohio Sen. Rob Portman suddenly declared his support for same-sex marriage after his son came out as gay. And it’s the reason why, everywhere I look, I see hassles that my son will have to face that I don’t. Here’s a partial list of things I can take for granted, but which will likely be problematic for my son:
1. I Can Walk Through a Store Without Being Followed To take one high-profile instance, Macy’s and the city of New York recently settled with actor Robert Brown, who was handcuffed, humiliated, and accused of committing credit card fraud after buying an expensive watch at the store. I never have to worry about this happening to me.
2. I Can Succeed Without It Being Attributed to My Race When my wife, who is black, received her acceptance letter from Boston College, a peer told her she must have gotten in due to affirmative action, effectively ruining the experience of receiving the letter. When I succeed, people assume I’ve earned it.
3. I Learned About My Ancestors’ History in School I can tell you all about Louis XIV, Socrates, and the Magna Carta, but I always wondered when we would finally learn about African history (beyond Pharaohs and pyramids). The subject never came up.
4. I Can Lose My Temper in Traffic Once, an acquaintance who got into a confrontation while driving told me how scared she was of the other driver, describing him as a “big black guy.” When I get heated, no one attributes it to my race.
5. I Can Loiter in Wealthy Neighborhoods No one has ever called the cops on me to report a “suspicious person.” My wife can’t say the same.
6. I Can Complain About Racism When I point out that black people are incarcerated at alarming rates, or largely forced to send their children to underperforming schools, or face systemic discrimination when searching for jobs and housing, no one accuses me of “playing the race card.”
7. I Can Count on Being Met on My Own Terms If I’m being treated poorly, I don’t stop and think about whether it’s due to my race. But unless we somehow make a giant leap forward, my son will always have to wonder. Recently, I became a father for the second time. My daughter, only three months old, will grow up to face many of the same challenges as my son, on top of the extra ones that come with being a woman: the struggle for equal pay, the catcalling, the constant threat of sexual assault. I don’t want to give my children a complex about all of this, but I can’t wish these problems away, either. I can’t eliminate all the unfair hurdles that exist in the world. I can only do my best to raise kids who are able to jump over them.
Thoughts?
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Shout out to Dame Dash for using his platform to wake our people up. He definitely gets my respect and is operating on his square. Very upright brother.
