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They should go take that up that corporate. Their dumbasses is pullin up on the wrong ppl.
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...So
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this is funny:
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I'm seeing black people legitimately happy & celebrating what should be a Biden win..... and i'm at a complete loss. We were just here in June having national riots over the state of the country on how black people were being treated in every aspect of America... not a singular thing has improved & yet here we are again putting faith in the same people we have for the past 40+ years to continue the same program
THIS IS WITH WHOM YOU WANNA PLACE YOUR FAITH
THIS IS WITH WHOM YOU WANNA PLACE YOUR FAITH
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I think what many are starting to realize, is the power voting actually has when done in a pointed, and forceful action. If Black people can come together like this consistently, bucking the divide and conquer tactics used by these devils out here, we can finally push them into a corner. Right now, white america has shown itself to be exactly what it is by still giving millions of votes to Trump. We must remember that going forward. Screw them, it is time for us to get what WE want.I'm seeing black people legitimately happy & celebrating what should be a Biden win..... and i'm at a complete loss. We were just here in June having national riots over the state of the country on how black people were being treated in every aspect of America... not a singular thing has improved & yet here we are again putting faith in the same people we have for the past 40+ years to continue the same program
THIS IS WITH WHOM YOU WANNA PLACE YOUR FAITH
dacomeup
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I think you have the right energy about all of this but I’m noticing in threads that you’re a little off on the facts when it comes to these things. People are still protesting. The work is still being done. None of that has stopped. People are STILL protesting in NY today. People are excited that President pushing for Law and Order, dog whistling against Black folks every day, installing justices to a Supreme Court who will likely strike down Obamacare, affirmative action and Roe v. Wade if given the opportunity, among other really dangerous things to our communities will be stopped.I'm seeing black people legitimately happy & celebrating what should be a Biden win..... and i'm at a complete loss. We were just here in June having national riots over the state of the country on how black people were being treated in every aspect of America... not a singular thing has improved & yet here we are again putting faith in the same people we have for the past 40+ years to continue the same program
THIS IS WITH WHOM YOU WANNA PLACE YOUR FAITH
Again, the work doesn’t stop for us. But people should have space to be happy that a damn near authoritarian leader is out of office. We’re not blindly trusting Democrats and their virtue signaling. Many of us see it for what it is and call it out. But we have to push for the change and keep our foot on their necks. It’s inspiring that a people who the Constitution wasn’t even written in consideration of as human beings just singlehandedly shifted this election in cities with DEEP histories as a part of the movement for Black folks in this country,i.e., Atlanta, philly, Detroit. I get that you’re disaffected and rightfully so, but my question is what do you suggest people feel or do in this moment?
dacomeup
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With all due respect, when has America not shown itself to be this? this isn't relegated to Trump. This country whether Blue or Red has continued to relegate black causes to we owe you won for DECADES now, outside of just optimism what is the basis to think we have them backed into a corner?
this is from DEMOCRATIC caucus calls yesterday
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-wild-conference-call-leaks-live-Twitter.html
- Rep. Abigail Spanberger, a moderate Democrat, ripped into party leaders on a conference call on Thursday after House majority shrank
- 'No one should say 'defund the police' ever again,' Spanberger said, referring to one of The Squad's demands
- 'We will get f****** torn apart,' she added
- Speaker Nancy Pelosi defended the party, saying Democrats held the House
- Democratic Rep. Debbie Mucarsel-Powell, who lost, her race, cried during call
- She said colleagues couldn't pronounce her name and were mean on Twitter
- Details from the call played on live on Twitter as those on it leaked details to the Capitol Hill press corp, who promptly tweeted them
- As details from the conference call emerged online, lawmakers demanded the guilty leakers be found
If there's anything we know about politicians is that it's secure the vote #1, worry about the people #2. Ya'll think these the people who gonna be fighting for black initiatives moving forward??
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Spanberger was getting COOKED for what she said tho
. Like, this isn’t out of realm for a moderate, white Democrat to say that. She’s upset that four progressive black women recently elected who TOOK the house in the first place...moved the party to explicitly support policies/messaging that will benefit black folk. It’s fair, after a loss to re-evaluate messaging. But as you can see by your post...even pelosi defended the “defund the police” and black outreach. And she’s as moderate and play the line as it comes. At least on that call. I’m seeing she on some bs today. But the push for more Stacy Amrahams, the squad and other people doing the real work and engaged is where things can go.Post what Rashida Tlalib said in that call. That’s someone in the house, on that call...that’s explicitly for **** like you and me. And she got backed.
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The difference in our opinions seems to come in the thought process that we're not blindly trusting democrats.... i skimmed through pages of that election thread & watched in many different instances people dismiss the thought of even voting republican as
Racist, an attack on black women, Contrarians.... if just the thought of a black person voting anything other than the democrats creates these notions.... then IMO there are a lot of people blindly following Democrats.....
Also there's nothing inspiring or satisfying to meet about shifting elections when based off history our issues are still going to be pushed to the back burna. We gonna get through 4 years of Biden, we're gonna get told he can't pass anything due to the senate & that he got us on the next election. And again with no guarantee we're gonna come out in droves win the election & see our issues be passed on for Kamala's run.
we started the game down 50 & every 4 years the Dems come out & take three off the deficit, & we sit here with adulation & support for receiving the scraps.
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This is why I will always keep my lips sewed up when black women dump on us for being regressive
Dudes rather do nothing and stew in their righteousness while our most defenseless suffer the consequences. We can't fight an open white nationalist without having our faith and allegiance questioned--
Dudes rather do nothing and stew in their righteousness while our most defenseless suffer the consequences. We can't fight an open white nationalist without having our faith and allegiance questioned--
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Put the heat on Sleepy Joe for sure. Wait until the election is over so nobody can use the, "You are taking away some of his steam" card.
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So how do you measure the success of this administration? Not being trump is a low bar
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They got no excuse if they win the run offs in GA.
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Spanberger was getting COOKED for what she said tho
Post what Rashida Tlalib said in that call. That’s someone in the house, on that call...that’s explicitly for **** like you and me. And she got backed.
the issue is is that there's more than likely more people who share Spanbergers ideals in that party instead of the "progressives". so yes they will have the "star" politicians drumming up support & saying all the right things to rile up the minorities, but they have to work hand in hand with people who still don't want radical change for black people in America.
And the Dems giving up the largest amount of Minority votes ever to Trump of all people definitely isn't gonna help that push or support for more progressive legislation going forward.
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Have you seen the modern day Republican playbook? It’s an open white supremacist playbook? You have politicians playing up on white resentment politics promising to give them their country back. If you can in good faith give me a policy reason for Black people to support the party as a whole at this stage then I’m all ears. I think you’re conflating a rebuke of the racism that we’re seeing in the Republican Party as a outright acceptance of everything the Dems put forward, and that’s not the case. There’s a nuanced discussion to be had there and I know you’re capable of it. You’re clearly a smart dude.
I respect your perspective that there’s nothing inspiring about that but I wholeheartedly disagree. Black people shifting the election while our vote is continually suppressed because white people don’t even want us to vote is inspiring to me. It’s inspiring to many other Black people, and I don’t think that there should be anything wrong with that. My grandmother is 80+ years old and was literally “the help” for white folks when she was in our age range, and even she’s inspired but what other Black people are doing. She has no reason to be anything but jaded and disheartened based on what she’s seen in her life.
We still have to keep pushing for our own issues to be given the proper focus. I’m under no illusion that these people are looking to give us anything or prioritize us, but unfortunately, WE have to keep doing the work or no one else will. None of us are sitting in adulation for scraps. We have to demand more and we will keep doing so.
