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[Deleted member 185039]

 
I'm just acting out. I'll get over it at some point. 

You will and we still love you

 

[kayzeezay]

Oh well, **** it

 

[pain]

I'll never get over it.

 

[Mr.Guy]

Messed up stuff

 

[Mr.Guy]

Are the Raiders gonna keep the same uniforms?

 

[albooboo]

Are the Raiders gonna keep the same uniforms?

Everything stays the same. Except the city name plate

 

[sohi 23]

Ima grieve for a while but I'll get over it eventually.

I root for the Lakers, they're like 400 miles away and I've never stepped foot in the staples center. This won't be any different. This sucks but whatever. At least I'll save money on season tickets. I don't think I'll ever attend a Raider game in Las Vegas because I have morals and **** but I'll continue to be a fan.

Might consider making 1 road trip a year for an away game, but honestly... **** the NFL. I really don't wanna support them at all. Greedy *** *************. I hope your league tanks

 

[sonoftony]

Al Davis would not let this go down if he were alive today. I feel for you guys

 

[sohi 23]

Circling back to how this will impact football.

Positives:
More attractive in free agency. Income tax in CA vs no income tax in Nevada = win for all players and coaches.

Negatives:
No home field advantage. Ima miss o.co rocking after a sack or raider touchdown. If there's anything that makes me wanna tear up, it's the feeling the crowd has when the Raiders are kicking *** and everyone's into it. The dj drops some Too short or Luniz and the crowd gets even more hype. **** I'm depressed again ((

Are we still having training camp in Napa and practicing in Alameda? Are they only flying to Vegas for home games?

 

[dogpolice]

Very Sad Day For The Black Hole and Raider Nation. We still have 2 years for everything not to work out. Does Las Vegas still have a buyer? because I heard he pulled out last month? 

 

[Deleted member 185039]

 
Nothing to do with U dawg just NorthOakland for telling me I was wrong when I said Raiders to LV was happening

You weren't trolling. Just confirming what was said.

 

[HNL HI]

Circling back to how this will impact football.

Positives:
More attractive in free agency. Income tax in CA vs no income tax in Nevada = win for all players and coaches.

Negatives:
No home field advantage. Ima miss o.co rocking after a sack or raider touchdown. If there's anything that makes me wanna tear up, it's the feeling the crowd has when the Raiders are kicking *** and everyone's into it. The dj drops some Too short or Luniz and the crowd gets even more hype. **** I'm depressed again ((

Are we still having training camp in Napa and practicing in Alameda? Are they only flying to Vegas for home games?

the aura will be gone for sure |I

cause I'm really from Vegas tho, nah just ain't the same.

 

[willie mcfly22]

Circling back to how this will impact football.

Positives:
More attractive in free agency. Income tax in CA vs no income tax in Nevada = win for all players and coaches.

Negatives:
No home field advantage. Ima miss o.co rocking after a sack or raider touchdown. If there's anything that makes me wanna tear up, it's the feeling the crowd has when the Raiders are kicking *** and everyone's into it. The dj drops some Too short or Luniz and the crowd gets even more hype. **** I'm depressed again ((

Are we still having training camp in Napa and practicing in Alameda? Are they only flying to Vegas for home games?

Mannn the feels. You right tho, no greater feelin when the Coliseum is rockin! Vegas can't produce that.

 

[raider5]

Vegas will never produce that. It will be worse than what Levi's produces right now.

This must be karma for all the **** I use to talk to Niner fans about that ****** stadium

 

[pain]

Vegas will never produce that. It will be worse than what Levi's produces right now.

 

[Deleted member 185039]

Vegas will never produce that. It will be worse than what Levi's produces right now.

This must be karma for all the **** I use to talk to Niner fans about that ****** stadium

Same. It is. I'll swim in the karma @heatseeker23  

 

[dogpolice]

Vegas will never produce that. It will be worse than what Levi's produces right now.

This must be karma for all the **** I use to talk to Niner fans about that ****** stadium

My sister lives in The Bay and she hates Levi's with a passion. 

 

[danikerhino]

Vegas will never produce that. It will be worse than what Levi's produces right now.

This must be karma for all the **** I use to talk to Niner fans about that ****** stadium

Bland Stadium in Santa Clara>moving out to Vegas.

Feel sorry for y'all though, hope you guys can keep the A's at least.

 

[raider5]

A's ain't going anywhere. They're marketing motto right now is #RootedInOakland.

And conveniently, they started a week long spirit week with a big *** elephant mural in downtown Oakland today. Along with other events throughout the week.

And FWIW, that stadium will be privately financed.

 

[Johnny_Cakes]

Not a fan of Frisco fans coming into this thread to take in our mourning. Worry about yourselves.

 

[Johnny_Cakes]

http://www.sfchronicle.com/raiders/...030797.php?t=e0b4c86525&cmpid=twitter-premium

Hey, Mark Davis: Just leave, baby...

By Ann Killion March 27, 2017 Updated: March 27, 2017 8:37pm

See you, Mark Davis. Don’t let the door to our legendary, beautiful, thriving market hit you in the butt on the way out.

Take the Raiders to Vegas right now — tonight, actually — and spend a couple of years there, playing outdoors in the heat in some fourth-rate stadium. Pocket your cash. Don’t coast into the desert on the love of your loyal fans.

You don’t deserve them.

There are a lot of villains here, but none more than Davis, who has been angling to leave Oakland ever since he took over the organization after his father’s death in 2011.

He probably thinks he’s simply following family tradition: Al Davis invariably was ready to move and to play one market against an other. Now, the Davis family will have abandoned the Oakland market twice, giving the city a sad distinction in NFL history.

Mark Davis had other options, but because of hubris and self-importance, he didn’t follow those options. The logical choice was to partner with the 49ers on a stadium, on which construction hadn’t even started when Al Davis died. The NFL wanted it. It’s the only thing that makes logical sense in a two-team market. (See: New York, Los Angeles.)

Instead, he wanted his own palace. So what if that “palace” will be in the nation’s 42nd-biggest market? So what if he’s abandoning one of the finest traditions in the NFL?

This is a man who thinks P.F. Chang’s and Hooters are the finest dining experiences available. This is a man who clings to that haircut. We can’t really expect him to do the right thing.

And blame the NFL, whose owners confirmed this move by a 31-1 vote (Miami’s Stephen Ross was the only holdout). The league could be at a tipping point, because the owners just don’t give a damn about the consumer or history. They make billions while ignoring their fans, so why not abandon markets like San Diego and Oakland? Why not move teams to markets that don’t really want them? Why not flip off your loyal fans and any semblance of tradition?

The Raiders would be the Jaguars if it weren’t for their fans and the city of Oakland. The Raiders are riding high now, but the reason they got through the dark years was because of their loyal fans, who kept coming to the Coliseum despite the garbage product on the field. The Raiders were the worst team in the league for many years, an utter embarrassment. But there was a tradition and loyalty that fueled people through the darkness.

And now that the team is good? Slam the door on those fans.

Davis often has said that Oakland didn’t do enough. Didn’t do enough? The debt service on the Coliseum renovation still amounts to $20 million a year. The city is thriving now, but in recent lean times, it still had to pay millions and millions for the original deal to bring back the Raiders in 1995.

The Raiders were determined to leave because Oakland wouldn’t kick out the A’s, as The Chronicle’s Matier & Ross reported Monday. The A’s have been here — continuously — since 1968. They were here when the Raiders moved back in 1995 and ruined the Coliseum for baseball with their renovations. The A’s have 81 home dates a year, not eight. The A’s should get a nice stadium and eventually will have the city of Oakland to themselves.

Some want to lay the blame on Mayor Libby Schaaf, but she took the job in 2015 after Davis had been angling for years to leave. I don’t blame her for not getting a deal done when Davis barely would give her the time of day, and she has a city to run.

There’s a new tradition in California: Owners of professional sports teams and leagues worth billions pay for their stadiums. Not the taxpayers. Only duped cities, like Las Vegas, will offer up insane amounts of tax money — $750 million in this case, which could grow to $950 million — to build professional sports palaces. Californians have learned the hard way: That’s a fool’s errand, and we’re not fools. So good for Schaaf for making it clear from the outset that no public money was available.

The Raiders are a good team right now, but they’ll have another downturn. Will they be supported? Will they attract the same type of loyalty and love?

It’s unlikely. What happened in Oakland between the Raiders and their fans was a rare thing. The type of thing you don’t just throw away.

Davis is throwing it away. He said his team still will play in Oakland under the Oakland Raiders name for at least the next two years. He said he will offer refunds to season-ticket buyers who want them. The whole lame-duck arrangement is going to be awkward, sad and terrible. It shouldn’t happen.

Mark Davis didn’t deserve the fans he had. He should pack his bags right now.

 

[flyknitjb]

I don't post I'm here but I feel all of your pain. Maybe I know some of you from twitter or the save Oakland campaigns / groups. Just felt the need to share feelings with people that I know are hurting the same. I know we didn't deserve this. Those that went to games, thanks for making that place special. Plenty of memories but sadly it's the end

 

[raider5]

Greg Papa this afternoon was basically saying these issues predate Libby. A lot of these problems trickled back to Jean Quan when she was mayor and a lot of difficulties with the County board of supervisors.

With all those issues Mark took matters into his own hand since the politicians were difficult to work with, basically taking a flyer from anyone till LV hit. Most politicians here thought it was just leverage and he wouldn't dare leave again.

Libby did her part of trying something, but it was too late for her. Mark Davis had already made up his mind. Yeah, Mark could have did the right thing and attempt to stay with Libby making her efforts but I'm sure his ego wouldn't let him go back the county and city again after they were basically laughing at him. Notice none of the County members were never present when anything Raiders related would come up and they own half the land.

I'm sure more reports will come out in the next days/weeks, but with that being said this **** really falls on both Mark Davis and Oakland politicians (old and new). The plan was there for Mark davis to take if he wanted too, but he sold out on his fans for $950M in free money ($200M from tax payer infrastructure is now included).

And the NFL owners? Just last year they were talking about gambling is a big no-no for them till they seen that money. Now it's estimated each owner will get nearly $50M in relocation fees alone :x

 

[Deleted member 185039]

I told your stupid *** we'd know the fate of the franchise after the owners vote.

Disrespect fully intended anybody can get it today.

Quote of the week my friend 

 

[Deleted member 185039]

Greg Papa this afternoon was basically saying these issues predate Libby. A lot of these problems trickled back to Jean Quan when she was mayor and a lot of difficulties with the County board of supervisors.

With all those issues Mark took matters into his own hand since the politicians were difficult to work with, basically taking a flyer from anyone till LV hit. Most politicians here thought it was just leverage and he wouldn't dare leave again.

Libby did her part of trying something, but it was too late for her. Mark Davis had already made up his mind. Yeah, Mark could have did the right thing and attempt to stay with Libby making her efforts but I'm sure his ego wouldn't let him go back the county and city again after they were basically laughing at him. Notice none of the County members were never present when anything Raiders related would come up and they own half the land.

I'm sure more reports will come out in the next days/weeks, but with that being said this **** really falls on both Mark Davis and Oakland politicians (old and new). The plan was there for Mark davis to take if he wanted too, but he sold out on his fans for $950M in free money ($200M from tax payer infrastructure is now included).

And the NFL owners? Just last year they were talking about gambling is a big no-no for them till they seen that money. Now it's estimated each owner will get nearly $50M in relocation fees alone

The issues do predate Libby.

The problem for me was politicians / people thinking that he wouldn't do it and he did. ****** on Mark and ****** for the fans, but the man got what he wanted.