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Well that's one of the jokes you'd chalk up to just being crude.That said, I do think Dave's trying to practice a bit of revisionist history here. For someone who has no problem with trans people, he's spent a LOT of time in his Netflix specials making fun of trans people. You can say that his "yuck" comment about Caitlyn Jenner was more about her than about trans women generally, but you can't make the same distinction for a joke in this special that you personally seemed to find hilarious, in which Dave compares trans women's bodies to Beyond Meat. This is not a joke about White trans people.
The joke is pretty straight forward; a surgically created vagina is not the same as real vagina. Same way beyond or impossible meat aint real meat.
Yeah and he further explained that some women see trans women the way black ppl would see white ppl putting on blackface. Its no doubt demeaning to a transwoman's experience given the key differences but that's the feeling he's trying to get across in describing it. Cuz from there he goes in to talking about Jenner and there just appears to be some inequality or special treatment the way she was just given women of the year.If Dave wants to make the point that straight, cisgender White men are so committed to racism that they'd side with a trans woman over a Black man, perhaps he ought to spare a thought to how it would feel to see him, as a Black man, siding with J.K. Rowling over Black trans women.
That is not about White people. He literally says he's on "team TERF," which is, by definition, trans exclusionary.
Yeah, I get this that it has had effect but only to some degree. I don't agree with how it's being reported as if his standup is the cause of a wave of trans murder. It's stuff like that gets other posters to be a bit more.Again, I'm not making the claim that Dave had the intention of adversely impacting Black trans people - but at this point it's impossible to deny that some of his recent specials have had that effect.
There's something to be said, too, of in-group vs. out-group humor - both in terms of who's speaking and who's listening. At whose expense and for whose pleasure is the joke being made?
I think where Dave is at, he has his own rather large audience that can discern which jokes are for who. That issue is part of the reason he did leave Chappelle though so I think he's aware of it enough not to end there again.
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