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Randolph: "A lot of beautiful women down there."
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Buike signed with Al Harrington's Protoge.
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is that it?
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How does bwight look?
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Wondering the same thing.
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I have requests for some pictures and any help would be awesome.
I'm looking for any/all of Anthony Randolph draft days pictures of him shaking hands with Stern and all the way through to his studio pictures. If anyonedoesn't know what studio pictures I'm talking about, it's just like these Curry ones.
Thanks in advance.
I'm looking for any/all of Anthony Randolph draft days pictures of him shaking hands with Stern and all the way through to his studio pictures. If anyonedoesn't know what studio pictures I'm talking about, it's just like these Curry ones.
Thanks in advance.
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something like this right?
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There's nothing he could have done that would have prevented him dislocating his shoulder. He came back waaay too early, which is why ithappened again. My shoulder still isn't right, but I haven't went back to the hospital yet
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Yeah. Those are the kind of pictures I'm looking for.
Thanks, NTL.
Thanks, NTL.
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What's the deal with the #46 on the basketballs that Curry and Randolph are holding? Was that supposed to be their number or something symbolic orsomething?
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[h2]2009-10 Forecast: Golden State Warriors[/h2]
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Rocky Widner/Getty ImagesWhen Don Nelson gave Anthony Randolph a chance, the jams flowed freely.
GO TO: 2008-09 Recap Offseason Moves Biggest Strength/Weakness Outlook
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[h3]2008-09 Recap[/h3]
There's nothing golden about this state of affairs. Ambushed by injuries and bleeding internally from divisions in the front office, the Warriors limped home to a disappointing 29-win season that continued the NBA's most miserable playoff streak -- the Warriors have qualified just once in the past 15 seasons. Even the sad-sack Clippers have managed twice as many playoff appearances in that time span.
Certainly last season's Warriors would have won more if not for the injuries. The projected perimeter trio of Monta Ellis, Stephen Jackson and Corey Maggette missed a combined 111 games, while center Andris Biedrins missed another 20. Thanks to assorted other nicks and scrapes, only three Warriors played more than 67 games.
That said, much of the damage in Golden State was self-inflicted. Divisions between general manager Chris Mullin and team president Robert Rowell spread into the open, with Rowell -- who previously had never made the basketball decisions -- negotiating a pointless, cap-killing extension for Jackson on his own while excluding Mullin from important decisions.
Head coach Don Nelson, meanwhile, played his own games. He inactivated Al Harrington at the start of the season, essentially sidelining one of his most productive players over a personality conflict (not the first time this has happened with Nelson and a talented Golden State power forward). Eventually Golden State sent Harrington to New York for Jamal Crawford, who impressed Nelson so much that he publicly implored Crawford to opt out of his contract and sign someplace else.
[h4]HOLLINGER'S '08-09 STATS[/h4]
W-L: 29-53 (Pythagorean W-L: 30-52)
Offensive Efficiency: 106.6 (T-11th)
Defensive Efficiency: 110.1 (28th)
Pace Factor: 101.0 (1st)
Highest PER: Andris Biedrins (19.16)
Nelson seemed determined to avoid using Mullin's draft picks as well. He kept Brandan Wright locked away at the end of the bench despite his undeniable production when he played and engaged in similar tactics with rookie Anthony Randolph for half the season.
Instead of playing those two power forwards, Nelson remained wedded to an odd-ball, small lineup strategy that often saw 6-6 wings Maggette and Kelenna Azubuike masquerading as power forwards. Nearly everyone on the roster saw his playing time yo-yo back and forth with little rhyme or reason, even on the rare occasions when injuries didn't reset the rotation.
[h4]Pace factor leaders, 2008-09[/h4] [table][tr][th=""]Team[/th] [th=""]Pace[/th] [/tr][tr][td]Golden State[/td] [td]100.9[/td] [/tr][tr][td]New York[/td] [td]98.9[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Indiana[/td] [td]98.9[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Phoenix[/td] [td]98.2[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Sacramento[/td] [td]96.8[/td] [/tr][tr][td]League average[/td] [td]94.1[/td] [/tr][/table]
In sum, it was a wild mess. Golden State ran at every opportunity and permitted opponents to do the same, resulting in far and away the league's fastest pace (see chart). That pace also led the Warriors to overrate their own players. Jackson, for instance, is a 20-point scorer if he's playing 39 minutes a game at this frenetic pace, but let the air out and he's a pretty ordinary performer. The Warriors failed to do that, and instead gave a three-year, $28 million extension to a player who will be 36 by the time the deal ends. Similarly, they were so taken with Ellis' 20.2 scoring average a season earlier that they inked him to a $66 million deal.
The Warriors' frequent small-ball experiments enabled them to push the pace to such extremes, but they also left them badly undersized. The size issue largely explains their pathetic work on the defensive glass. Golden State retrieved only 68.1 percent of opponent missed shots, easily the league's worst percentage. Before a shot went up the Warriors were close to being a league-average defense, as they didn't allow an overwhelming shooting percentage and defended the 3-point line well. But the second shots were killers, dragging them to 28th in defensive efficiency.
[h4]Worst defensive rebound pct., 2008-09[/h4] [table][tr][th=""]Team[/th] [th=""]Def. Rebound %[/th] [/tr][tr][td]Golden State[/td] [td]68.1[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Sacramento[/td] [td]69.9[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Chicago[/td] [td]70.9[/td] [/tr][tr][td]L.A. Clippers[/td] [td]71.2[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Washington[/td] [td]71.4[/td] [/tr][tr][td]League average[/td] [td]73.3[/td] [/tr][/table]
If you looked hard enough, there were some encouraging signs along the way. Randolph showed tremendous promise when he got more late-season minutes, undrafted rookie Anthony Morrow left an impression as a sharpshooter off the bench, second-year pro C.J. Watson established his career with a strong season, and Ellis came back from a mo-ped wreck to play 25 late-season games. Golden State managed an encouraging 12-13 mark with Ellis in the lineup, albeit against a fairly tame stretch of schedule with 16 home games.
But the story on the court took a backseat to the palace intrigue. Nelson received a two-year extension for so ably leading his team back to the lottery, while confidante Larry Riley was installed as the team's new general manager. It remains to be seen whether Rowell will move back to the business office or whether he now fancies himself a talent evaluator, or if the infamously cantankerous Nelson will move on to battle Rowell after the two of them teamed up to dispatch Mullin.
Looming in the background, meanwhile, are rumors that secretive owner Chris Cohan might finally sell the team and put it under more capable management. Warriors fans -- a bunch that remains shockingly abundant despite the team's numerous failures -- can only dream.
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[h3]Offseason Moves[/h3]
With a young team and some luxury tax concerns going forward, the Warriors sat out the free-agent market, with their only major deals involving dumping salaries. This being Golden State, we still had drama. Jackson publicly demanded a trade (thanks for the extension, suckas), which subsequently led to a fine by the league's fun police. Entering the season the Warriors appeared in no hurry to deal him and Nelson said he'd remain a captain.
Drafted Stephen Curry. The sharpshooter from Davidson will fit into Nelson's basic philosophy of shooting lots of 3s and worrying about defense later, and therein lies the concern. If Golden States plans to pair him in the backcourt with Ellis, one or the other will pose a major defensive liability against opposing shooting guards. Curry is a combo guard who should thrive offensively in this system and almost certainly offered the best value on the board when the Warriors chose, but much of what he provides already exists on the roster.
Traded Jamal Crawford to Atlanta for Speedy Claxton and Acie Law. Golden State dumped nearly $19 million in salary over the next two years on the Hawks in return for two players who are unlikely to play much, if at all. Should Law develop as a shooter, the Warriors could use him as a third point guard, but there's little reason to believe that will happen based on his first two seasons.
Traded Marco Belinelli to Toronto for Devean George and cash. Here's what has to worry you if you're Anthony Randolph or Stephen Curry -- the Warriors have run five of the preceding seven first-round draft choices out of town. Belinelli joins Patrick O'Bryant, Ike Diogu, Mickael Pietrus and Jiri Welsch as Warriors who didn't make it to their second contract, with all but Pietrus traded prior to their expiration. Only Andris Biedrins and Brandan Wright have stuck around, and in Wright's case it may not be for long.
Belinelli was another salary dump despite a fairly encouraging second season, as the Raptors included enough money to pay George's contract. George himself is likely to be of little value, even with Nelson's love of small-ball power forwards, as his play declined precipitously last season.
Re-signed C.J. Watson for one year, $1 million. Watson reluctantly took the Warrior's qualifying offer after failing to find an acceptable deal on the open market as a restricted free agent. It's great value for a productive backup point guard and provides a good fallback plan should Curry prove unready, but Watson has basically signaled that he's outta here after this one season.
Signed Mikki Moore for one year for the veteran's minimum. This one is a head scratcher. Moore turns 34 the first week of the season, he was brutally awful last season, and the Warriors already have a surplus of string-bean power forwards. How does this move fit in with a rebuilding team?
Traded two second-round picks to New Jersey. The Warriors sent the picks to the Nets to delay having to give New Jersey a first-rounder from the 2008 Marcus Williams trade until at least 2012. The deal gives Golden State trade flexibility to include their 2010 first-round pick in a trade -- the league prohibits trading draft picks in consecutive years. Also, if you're keeping track, they've now traded two seconds and a first to New Jersey for a player Nelson wanted to cut within 30 seconds of his arrival.
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[h3]Biggest Strength: One-on-One Scoring[/h3]
The Warriors are very difficult for opposing defenses to match up against because they have so many capable one-on-one scorers. It starts at the point: If Ellis bounces back at full strength from his injuries, he'll be a handful due to his outstanding quickness and capable midrange shooting. On the wings, Maggette is one of the most effective drivers in basketball, earning a steady stream of free throws when he's not putting it in the basket, while Jackson is a dangerous scorer who can shoot from long range or attack the basket off the dribble.
Coming behind them is a second wave of scorers who are nearly as capable. Azubuike is a good outside shooter who can physically overwhelm smaller wings down low, Curry is a deadly long-range marksman, Watson is a competent outside shooter off the dribble, and Morrow not only spots up but can hit shots off the dribble in pick-and-rolls.
Up front, Biedrins is a proven expert at taking slower centers off the dribble in one-on-one situations, and Randolph is an emerging talent developing similar capabilities. Deeper on the bench, Wright also has scored effectively throughout his career.
[h3]Biggest Weakness: Passing[/h3]
It's tempting to say "defense," except that the Warriors are set up to be a bad defensive team. Sure, they'll give up a ton of points, but their plan is to score more. The problem is that the system doesn't work unless they move the ball around and set up all those devastating offensive players they've acquired.
Last season Golden State assisted on only 53 percent of its made baskets, the second-lowest rate in the league. While one of the main offenders of the me-ball attack, Jamal Crawford, was exiled to Atlanta, there are plenty of other single-minded scorers ready to take his place. Ellis played only 25 games a season ago, but he's a shoot-first point guard who needs a lot of work finding the open man. He'll often team with Curry, another guard far more accomplished at shooting and scoring than at seeing the floor.
Here's a shocking stat: Only three Warriors in this season's likely rotation finished in the top two-thirds at their position in assist ratio last season. Two of them were centers who moved the ball a bit better than their peers but had little impact on the team's overall assist rate. Only Jackson, who ranked fourth among small forwards, is a legitimately good passer. Wright, Ellis, Morrow, Watson, Maggette and Azubuike all finished in the bottom 15 at their positions in assist ratio, while Randolph didn't fare much better.
If that doesn't change, the result will be similar to last season's -- too many quick, contested shots by gunners unaccustomed to involving others and an offense that fails to achieve its potential as a result.
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[h3]Outlook[/h3]
Golden State will almost certainly be better. It's highly unlikely the Warriors will suffer as many injuries as a season ago and most of their players are young, which means they're likely to improve. There was a bit of a talent drain in the offseason with the losses of Crawford and Belinelli, but the Warriors were so deep on the wings that it's unlikely they'll feel it.
That said, they still have many of the same problems, and those problems likely will keep them out of the playoffs. The Warriors were a terrible defensive team last season and did nothing in the offseason to get better. In particular, they struggle against physical frontcourts, but their perimeter defenders leave much to be desired as well. Chances are good that they'll once again finish in the bottom five in defensive efficiency.
Offensively, they'll need to be a top-five team to offset their defensive shortcomings, but the inability to pass and the lack of a go-to star make that scenario unlikely. The Warriors ranked 11th a season ago and can improve on that standing with better health this time around, but it's unlikely they'll score enough to fully offset the Swiss cheese defense.
Bigger picture, the organizational dysfunction remains a concern. Although the principals are no longer in open disagreement now that Mullin is gone, having Nelson as the de facto personnel boss is a dangerous game given his history of feuding with players. Already it seems Golden State will end up hocking Wright for pennies on the dollar, which would be a shame given how well he's played in his all-too-scarce opportunities.
Nelson also is likely to continue going small come hell or high water, limiting minutes for the frontcourt players so he can use the likes of Maggette or Azubuike as his power forward. That can confuse opponents at times, but over the long haul the size disparity leaves his squad overwhelmed physically.
Overall, the Warriors have a fairly bright future in spite of themselves, with talented young players like Ellis, Curry, Randolph, Morrow, Wright and Biedrins. But that future still seems to be a year or two away & just like it's been for the past decade and a half.
[h3]Prediction: 37-45, 4th in Pacific Division, 11th in Western Conference[/h3]
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The West is tough this year so if the Warriors could manage a .500 record, I will consider that a success.
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The year the team was established.
For example:
Clippers started in Los Angeles in 1984
Grizzlies moved to Memphis is 2001
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Ah, thanks for clearing that up.
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NothingToLose, thank a lot, man.
How can I repay you?
How can I repay you?
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Did the Warriors just start using the year '46 last year?
Marco is holding an '07 ball.
Marco is holding an '07 ball.
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I think it was something the league came up with cause Al Thornton had an 07 also:Originally Posted by Tim Lincecum
Did the Warriors just start using the year '46 last year?
Marco is holding an '07 ball.
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anything less than 50 wins will be a disappointment.
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I would say 38 wins and less would be a disappoint for me. I actually think the team could win 41-44 (but Nelson's line-ups could change that).
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Enlightened Thought staying with the lofty expectations.
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More Ellis on an Ellis/Curry tandem: "I just want to win, and that's not going to win, that way."
Today, Ellis said a backcourt of he and Curry is too small and that "you're not going to win that way."
When asked today about playing alongside Stephen Curry, Monta Ellis responded: "Us together? Can't ... we just can't."
via twitter.
couple hours into the season and it's alrdy doomed
