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Originally Posted by Bruce Waynee
So you're saying McNabb IS the future?
Whether you want to admit it or not the 49ers were a playoff team if not for a miracle pass and some horrendous plays against the Seahawks from making the playoffs. This is his first year with having the same Offensive Coordinator 2 years in a row. The strength of this team is the defense and with 2 first rounders in a deep draft we should be able to get two solid starters to add to our already good young talent. The future is Nate Davis and its good that he is being given time to learn instead of thrown into the fire. This is legitimately Alex Smith's last year or he's gone for good.
If anything I would like to see the 49ers do what the Jets did and NEXT draft trade up and get their guy if they really want one. (Jake Locker
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no mcnabb is not our future...but im tired of building for the future...we wanna win now! look at arizona when they signed warner? was he for the future? nope he turned out pretty well for them...thats the impact im hoping from mcnabb
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mcnabb isn't coming to SFO.
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no mcnabb is not our future...but im tired of building for the future...we wanna win now! look at arizona when they signed warner? was he for the future? nope he turned out pretty well for them...thats the impact im hoping from mcnabb
Exactly, here's somebody else that gets it. This is what I like to see. The same dudes that still have high hopes for Alex Smith would end up saying like this...... "In the year 2016 with Alex Smith as our quarterback we should be well on our way to the Super Bowl" To that I say who cares about the year 2016 and more importantly who the hell cares about Alex Smith. Sometimes you gotta know when to put your chips down on the table in order to win and win big.
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^^ im with you man
we've been building for the future since what? 2003? its been 7 freakin' years of building for the future! if you wanna count 15 years since we won the superbowl...now thats a looooong time...i understand alex is our current qb and he played very well last year...if he brings us the division title then yes i am all for it. are we really satisfied with just a division title? i'll be happy but not satisfied...if theres a chance to get mcnabb? why not go for it? we know what he can bring to the table while alex is still basically a project...ok maybe im spoiled from joe, steve and jerry BUT c'mon you guys are lying yourselves if you dont want mcnabb on the team...he is an upgrade regardless
alex COULD be that consistant playoff qb but the key word there is COULD...he still has to prove himself and whatever happens if we get mcnabb or not we just have to hope for the best
we've been building for the future since what? 2003? its been 7 freakin' years of building for the future! if you wanna count 15 years since we won the superbowl...now thats a looooong time...i understand alex is our current qb and he played very well last year...if he brings us the division title then yes i am all for it. are we really satisfied with just a division title? i'll be happy but not satisfied...if theres a chance to get mcnabb? why not go for it? we know what he can bring to the table while alex is still basically a project...ok maybe im spoiled from joe, steve and jerry BUT c'mon you guys are lying yourselves if you dont want mcnabb on the team...he is an upgrade regardless
alex COULD be that consistant playoff qb but the key word there is COULD...he still has to prove himself and whatever happens if we get mcnabb or not we just have to hope for the best
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This.
The 49ers are the favorites IMO to win the division without McNabb and even with him he is not a HUGE upgrade over Alex Smith and definitely not the difference in the 49ers becoming legitimate super bowl contenders. I understand that some of you are "tired of rebuilding" but you have to realize that in 2003 that team had absolutely zero talent on the roster. Now we have a ton of young talent and can add to it with two first rounders. To answer your question about which players would have an impact that we would use the pick on...just about any of them. Graham/Spiller/Thomas/Kyle Wilson/ just about anybody in that area.
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I think some of you guys are underestimating seattle.
the seahawks have basically the same team they've had for years now but now Seattle has a fiery, respectable coach.
and if you guys remember the impact that a few young, fiery coaches have had in their first year with solid supporting casts, we could be in for a surprise.
Look at what Bal, Pitt, NYJ did with their new coaches the 1st year of their jobs.
the seahawks have basically the same team they've had for years now but now Seattle has a fiery, respectable coach.
and if you guys remember the impact that a few young, fiery coaches have had in their first year with solid supporting casts, we could be in for a surprise.
Look at what Bal, Pitt, NYJ did with their new coaches the 1st year of their jobs.
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I disagree with just about everything Bruce Wayne is saying.
So just because you're favored means you should stop improving your team? And McNabb >>>> Smith. It's not even close. If you're not tired of seeing Smith missing wide open receivers, I don't know what to tell you.
So just because you're favored means you should stop improving your team? And McNabb >>>> Smith. It's not even close. If you're not tired of seeing Smith missing wide open receivers, I don't know what to tell you.
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I do understand the thought of trading to get a QB I just don't think the difference between McNabb and Smith warrants a 1st round pick. I would do it for a 2nd rounder no questions asked.
And I'm not saying that because the 49ers are favored that they shouldn't improve their team, I'm saying the 1st round selections could go toward other areas to improve the team other than QB.
And I'm not saying that because the 49ers are favored that they shouldn't improve their team, I'm saying the 1st round selections could go toward other areas to improve the team other than QB.
McNabb is an upgrade over a lot of people, especially 9er QBs...however..
I still feel a round 1 (either of) is a steep price unless you get a high #2 back at min.
Also, it won't matter who you have at QB if they're on their back and the defense is on the field 80% of the game.
I still feel a round 1 (either of) is a steep price unless you get a high #2 back at min.
Also, it won't matter who you have at QB if they're on their back and the defense is on the field 80% of the game.
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I hear ya and that's an excellent point. I still think Sing adopted the "smash mouth" mentality because he knew we didn't have a QB that could sustain drives, so in essence "smash mouth" was that only thing we could do, there were no other options on the table. We do need to work on the offensive line however, but at the same time no need to have a solid offensive line if we don't have a "real" QB to protect and no need to have a "real" QB if we don't have an offensive line to protect him, they both go together.
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That's ******ed because even if you have a crappy QB, a solid OLine can open up holes for the run game. You need a solid OLine regardless of whether or not we have a "real" QB.
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You didn't quote the first part of my statement which pretty much is in agreeance to your point. I will re-post it for you as it directly ties into what I was saying........
I hear ya and that's an excellent point. I still think Sing adopted the "smash mouth" mentality because he knew we didn't have a QB that could sustain drives, so in essence "smash mouth" was that only thing we could do, there were no other options on the table.
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does no one realize mcnabb migh be going to STL ?!
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I also heard that Oakland is in the mix as well. Either way teams around us are making moves on securing a solid QB in McNabb while we aren't, which means bad news for us during the season.
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seriously...mcnabb still has it in him and if we dont jump on him it means were really satisfied with staying conservative and play it safe...what some of us dont understand if you wanna win you gotta take some risks and yes mcnabb is a risk but its a risk that can STILL produce...hes a veteran he knows what hes doing out there...good teams take that risk ask arizona with warner and most recently ask the vikes they took on the risk on old man favre look how that turned out...you could even add drew brees to that list enough said
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Honestly, I'd love to have McNabb..It would benefit Davis's development tremendously to learn from him..
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the basis of his argument is that taking a risk on a PROVEN VETERAN who people think is washed up is a good idea.
IMO
Mcnabb + current 9ers + 2010 NFC west competition = playoff team.
And mcnabb will tutor smith/Davis/carr depending on who the 9ers want for the future
Mcnabb better be coming to the bay area to play football, one way or another.
I'd love for him to come here. It'd be interesting to see how he does, especially away from Reid. However, it's a steep cost. You win the division and then have to face better competition throughout the playoffs.
Steep price to pay (1st rounders) for this. Still need to fix the OL and playcalling, even with a stud QB. Otherwise you're not really benefiting from the move AT ALL and you gave up good picks.
Steep price to pay (1st rounders) for this. Still need to fix the OL and playcalling, even with a stud QB. Otherwise you're not really benefiting from the move AT ALL and you gave up good picks.
