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Tons. Unless you've been involved yourself or known someone personally who is, you can't really appreciate the full magnitude of conditioning that top level drivers go through. For example, Jenson Button entered a couple triathlons without really altering his training.Originally Posted by curt2121
Originally Posted by Grand 0ld Party
nascar isnt a sport
alms, f1, touring cars: YES
bingo.I'm ignorant, but what kind of conditioning does racing take?
The testing endurance event consists of a 1,500-metre swim in the River Thames, a 42-kilometre bike ride through neighbouring villages and a 10-kilometre run through Windsor Great Park. It is one of the most well-established and popular in Britain. Button came provisionally 117th of 1,624 finishers overall. However, he was 14th in his category with a time of 02:22:43. He was competing in the male 25-29 age-group in the full-distance event.
Tell me that he isn't conditioned. True racing (not NASCAR) involves physical stamina in being able to deal with g force loads while honing your reaction times. It isn't just a physical, but a mental challenge concurrently. I'd like to see the general NT population subject themselves to 4+ g's. Trying to turn with your head having an apparent weight of over 50 pounds, necks would literally be broken, people would blackout because they couldn't breathe from the force on their chest, etc. It's most definitely a sport.
Damn, sounds intense
Originally Posted by DRJordanFreak88
those lateral g forces would make plenty of unconditioned drivers nauseous after a few laps. racing requires plenty of strategy and practice just like any other sport, plus it still is a competition. id say +1 for sport.
Originally Posted by RonMexico7
So, my cousin MrMundayNite and I were having this argument over the weekend... He argued that Racing (F1, Nascar, etc.) was not a sport... He said that it requires no skill to turn the wheel right and left while going 200 mph... According to him, anyone could go on a highway and drive 200 mph... He completely disregards the fact controlling a 700+ HP going 200 mph around tight twists and turns isn't easy... So, I thought I'd come ask you guys what you thought about this... In your opinion, is Racing a sport? MrMundayNite, if you'd like to chime in and correct anything that I might have stated incorrectly, feel free to do so...
QFTOriginally Posted by jville819
It might not be easy but it damn sure isn't a sportOriginally Posted by RonMexico7
So, my cousin MrMundayNite and I were having this argument over the weekend... He argued that Racing (F1, Nascar, etc.) was not a sport... He said that it requires no skill to turn the wheel right and left while going 200 mph... According to him, anyone could go on a highway and drive 200 mph... He completely disregards the fact controlling a 700+ HP going 200 mph around tight twists and turns isn't easy... So, I thought I'd come ask you guys what you thought about this... In your opinion, is Racing a sport? MrMundayNite, if you'd like to chime in and correct anything that I might have stated incorrectly, feel free to do so...
Tons. Unless you've been involved yourself or known someone personally who is, you can't really appreciate the full magnitude of conditioning that top level drivers go through. For example, Jenson Button entered a couple triathlons without really altering his training.Originally Posted by curt2121
Originally Posted by Grand 0ld Party
nascar isnt a sport
alms, f1, touring cars: YES
bingo.I'm ignorant, but what kind of conditioning does racing take?
The testing endurance event consists of a 1,500-metre swim in the River Thames, a 42-kilometre bike ride through neighbouring villages and a 10-kilometre run through Windsor Great Park. It is one of the most well-established and popular in Britain. Button came provisionally 117th of 1,624 finishers overall. However, he was 14th in his category with a time of 02:22:43. He was competing in the male 25-29 age-group in the full-distance event.
Tell me that he isn't conditioned. True racing (not NASCAR) involves physical stamina in being able to deal with g force loads while honing your reaction times. It isn't just a physical, but a mental challenge concurrently. I'd like to see the general NT population subject themselves to 4+ g's. Trying to turn with your head having an apparent weight of over 50 pounds, necks would literally be broken, people would blackout because they couldn't breathe from the force on their chest, etc. It's most definitely a sport.
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yes, racing is a sport. i would love to see some of you going 170 plus on SLICK tires on a 40 degree bank inches from another car. i guaranteealmost all of you would crash and possibly die. because yes, its very easy to die in this sport. hell, i bet half of the ppl in here couldnt take the g-forcesof some roller coasters lol. and you do have to be in shape to race. you use your core the whole time you are in that car to fight the g forces. plus you haveto have control of the car at all times and that isnt easy.Originally Posted by tmoney85
i agree. it IS a sport. if it takes practice and only certain people can do it, since its so difficult, its a sport.Originally Posted by curt2121
ah, the usual ignorant cries of no with no rational reasoning behind them. Typical
Of course you need skill to race... But you also need skill for playing video games and last time I checked, that isn't a sport either.Originally Posted by RonMexico7
He said that it requires no skill to turn the wheel right and left while going 200 mph...
I have this argument with one of my roommates at least once a week. He's a huge NASCAR fan and I've heard how it gets 100+ degrees in thecar, facing 200 gs constantly, blah blah..Originally Posted by eight2one
it is a MOTORsport.
Originally Posted by Grand 0ld Party
nascar isnt a sport
alms, f1, touring cars: YES
Tons. Unless you've been involved yourself or known someone personally who is, you can't really appreciate the full magnitude of conditioning that top level drivers go through. For example, Jenson Button entered a couple triathlons without really altering his training.Originally Posted by curt2121
Originally Posted by Grand 0ld Party
nascar isnt a sport
alms, f1, touring cars: YES
bingo.I'm ignorant, but what kind of conditioning does racing take?
The testing endurance event consists of a 1,500-metre swim in the River Thames, a 42-kilometre bike ride through neighbouring villages and a 10-kilometre run through Windsor Great Park. It is one of the most well-established and popular in Britain. Button came provisionally 117th of 1,624 finishers overall. However, he was 14th in his category with a time of 02:22:43. He was competing in the male 25-29 age-group in the full-distance event.
Tell me that he isn't conditioned. True racing (not NASCAR) involves physical stamina in being able to deal with g force loads while honing your reaction times. It isn't just a physical, but a mental challenge concurrently. I'd like to see the general NT population subject themselves to 4+ g's. Trying to turn with your head having an apparent weight of over 50 pounds, necks would literally be broken, people would blackout because they couldn't breathe from the force on their chest, etc. It's most definitely a sport.
I think what's funny is that all the heads in here saying 'racing isn't a sport, racing isn't a sport' aren't even bothering to readyour post, or refute it point for point. It's like they can't wrap their heads around your argument.
Don't even bother wasting another moment trying to change people's minds on here. People will stay ignorant.
Originally Posted by s0leFUNK
I have this argument with one of my roommates at least once a week. He's a huge NASCAR fan and I've heard how it gets 100+ degrees in the car, facing 200 gs constantly, blah blah..Originally Posted by eight2one
it is a MOTORsport.
At the very end of the day, you are still driving a car. I dont care if you go through hell to do it. There is no way I'd ever hold it in the same regard as basketball, football, etc.. or even freakin cheerleading (competitive sport... no objective scoring...). Not takin anything away from nascar though..
you sound fatOriginally Posted by doctorshoes
Does it require skill? Of course it does, it requires a great deal of skill that most people are not able to master. But then again, so does playing an instrument. Is playing an instrument a sport because it's difficult? I mean, I do get pretty hot and tired while playing my guitar.
The main argument against Nascars qualification as a sport seems to be the fact that the vehicle they are driving is doing most of the work. If that is the by that logic any sport that uses a tool can't considered a sport right?
Is tennis a sport?
Is horse riding a sport?
Is Hockey a sport?
Is Baseball a sport?
All those sports require a tool to execute the object of the game just like nascar? If Nascar isn't a sport the why are these considered sports? Never mind the fact it requires a great deal of concentration, coordination and physical fortitude to drive these vehicles at such a incredible speeds. Don't drivers lose like 15 pounds each race? That seems pretty physically intensive to me...