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Lil homie, what are you talking about? You are so delusional. 

@BIP Roberts

Alight, I'm going to be an adult for the moment and actually address this once, before I dismiss you with some "go be trill" remark.

If I'm delusional, then answer my question - why did North Face jump off in mainstrteam the late 90s, after having existed for 30+ years withoiut ever having been worn casually as a mainstream fashion brand? Is it a coincidence that everything that was being flammed by "the hood" in the early-to-mid 90s - from AF1s to technical ski wear, and beyond - became widely popular and mainstream a few years later, as the music and culture that relfected that life became more commercialized and broadcast to a much wider, national (and suburban) audience?

Was that all just one bizarre coincidence, one which repeated itself over and over with several different brands and looks?

The fashion that was made popular in the early 90s in NYC remained the blueprint and chief influence of urban fashion for decades since.

Nowadays, Kanye is a style icon, right? Look at the man who built his style. Look at his TISA bear collections. Him being on the "cuttting edge" back in the day was really nothing more than having an idea of what was going on on the opposite coast before the internet and information super highway made everything paint by number.

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Nowadays, "style" is thrust upon the populace. There are people who create culture, and people who consume it - one of the major venues through which this is done, especially for the more urban demographic is music. So, 2010 (or whatever) Jay-Z get on a track and says, "New watch alert - Hublots" and people run to google to find out what that is. In fact, Jay-Z was actually one of the first urban artists to flip the paradigm and start telling his listeners what was hot - creating a chasm between him and them. "While you thumb through The Source, I read the Robb Report."

But, that wasn't always the case. If you listen to old crotchedly baseball fans (as opposed to old crotchedy urban fashion and culture gurus like myself), you'll hear them talk about a day when baseball players used to be "among the people." They worked regular jobs in the offseason. They frequented local watering holes with little overall fanfare. They were basically just like everybhody else. Well, that's what "hip hop" used to be like too. Rappers and athletes, etc. didn't "feed" the streets (the early-adopters) style, brands, or the like. They were just dudes. The machinations of "celebrity" hadn't yet taken hold in the community. So, their appeal was mostly regional - and they didn't tell people what was cool, because they were talking to their peers. The fans looked like the rappers because there wasn't much difference between them, not because the people consuming the culture longed to emulate those creating and marketing the culture. Starting in the mid-90s, the marketing of urban culture soared to new heights and it started producing celebrities on a volume and scope that it hadn't before. As part of that rise, their style - which was simply that of their regions and peers - got exported to the rest of the world. As those more foreign to the lifestyle became consumers, they got infatuated and wanted to look like their new counterculture heros. But, in reality, that just meant looking like the people who were native to what the now-famous celebrities were doing all along. So, the world started dressing like "the hood."

Nowadays, it's a top-down mentality. Not only has the gap between celeb and fan grown exponentially, allowing the celeb to "be on" stuff that is beyond the access of the consumers, but half of the artists have brands themselves that they are trying to push on their fans. So, it's one way communication, whereas in the past it was much more bottom-up, and grass roots, in terms of how styles took hold in the urban cultural landscape. Fat Joe's "560" was actually the first attempt at this that I saw. The world wasn't really ready yet. Wu Wear was the next attempt. The world still wasn't really ready - had the internet been mainsteam, it would have taken off like crazy. Then we saw the Sean Johns and Roc-a-wears, which were commerically successful, but were not taken seriously by the urban dudes known for getting fly. Part of this reason is exactly the gap I mentioned before - a rapper couldn't tell us what to wear, or sell his coolness to us. That had to happen organically, and we knew these guys long before they was famous - the allure and aura the brands relied upon to sell just didn't pass the sniff test to us.

Fast forward to today, and everything is a lot more shrewd. In addition to having years of beating people into the idea of these people as style icons, a lot of people from the previous eras departed from, or became less visible and audible in the culture. So, we know when people are falling for the okey doke, but our voice wasn't dominant, so we don't always speak on it, or get heard when we do. Further, the idea of endorsements and product-placement, and marketing is a lot more behind the scenes. The culture learned that the consumers aren't THAT pathetic - they don't want to wear a shirt that says Kanye West on it (the Wu Wear model), they want to feel like THEY are leading the movement, even though they are being spoonfed. So, most of the art of influecing acts more subtle and behind the scenes; it's more subtle, but way more deliberate.

But, make no mistake, when all this started to go mainsteam, it was essentially taking the style of golden era dipped in NYC and taking it global. And, the rest of the world spent years catching up. The people getting the most famous and becoming most visible when the culture broke through and gained new spheres on influence were predominantly from NYC - so that's why it was our look that become the blueprint. ...If the momentum the West Coast had in the early 90s had been sustained, it would have been khakis and Chucks that the soccer moms of the fly over states would be getting begged by their kids to buy. But, the East was dominant at the time and NYC was the epicenter, so it was North Face, Air Force ones, etc.


...You wanna refute this go ahead. Propose an alternate theory. I'm all ears.
 
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Wen is somebody going to post new pick ups you guys got to realize no one comes on to niketalk to read novels about ur opinions 2 or 3 sentences max
 
10 paragraphs is suddenly too much to read?
of course it isn't but not from some rando in a message board about a subject not even pertaining to the general topic of this thread. If you take 10 paragraphs to communicate your message you are either too verbose or no one pays attention to your opinion in real life.  2
 
Wen is somebody going to post new pick ups you guys got to realize no one comes on to niketalk to read novels about ur opinions 2 or 3 sentences max

That's why you guys don't know anything - you don't want to read.

You have two ears, two eyes, and one mouth, ya know.

10 paragraphs is suddenly too much to read?


of course it isn't but not from some rando in a message board about a subject not even pertaining to the general topic of this thread. If you take 10 paragraphs to communicate your message you are either too verbose or no one pays attention to your opinion in real life.  2

If I'm some "rando" on a message board to you, so be it.

The people in this culture whose opinions you value would probably disagree. But, I'm not about thumping my chest. If I flaunted my collection, maybe more people would listen. If I name dropped my "sneaker friends" then maybe more people would listen. But, I'd rather argue on the merits of my words than do that. Those who know me know how I get down. Many don't care. That's cool. You ain't gotta read what I write. Some people will, and those people will learn something, which is more than I can say for 99% of the content on NT2014.

I'll fall back because I've said my piece.

However, while a bunch of people have replied to my post, I will note that nobody has actually substantively or credibly disputed my arguments.


Happy hunting on the bay, guys.

/Back to lurk mode, along with most of the other members with valuable knowledge to offer.
 
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bip roberts bip roberts I started writing a few responses earlier during the day, but work kept on making me lose track of my chain of thought. I always appreciate your responses because they're far better written and thought out than the usual "DOPE" or "TRASH" responses.
 
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Never really paid attention to this thread, wish I knew about it the last couple yrs or so you guys wouldn't believe some of the steals I find. Guess I'll just start now. Here's a auction I won from today.


i literally want to cry. been trying to find a crisp pair of those for a year, and it's my sz. im sick
 
Won this for just 18 bucks in an ebay auction for a few years ago (just 1 keychain, not 3 lol)...People will drop over a 100 bucks for these without breaking a sweat though

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I was so close to getting a Kaws Bendy (i see some guy has the kaws astroboy) brand new for 100 than the seller had some "truobles with selling" and closed the bidding

I love how he relisted them for 500 later...

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@someone12345 Please educate me. What are those ^ and why are they so valuable?
Coarsetoys Jaws keychain

tl;dr basically some small version of the jaws

way back then, vans paid quite a hefty sum to get the artists in an art exhibition

they began selling really nice handmade models, and yeah, that's pretty much it

anyways, the jaws keychain originally came out in 2009 and sold out instantly

it costs so much because they're welp, from 2009 and were in a limited run

apparently nobody noticed the auction right until it was almost over

good thing i did

it's hard to believe the keychain is 3 inches, it's just that well detailed
 
TOP 5 THINGS I HATE THAT EBAY SELLERS DO:

1) Take pictures of them wearing the item they're selling
2) Describe an item as DS or VNDS when it's obviously BEAT
3) Say that they don't know if the shoes are authentic
4) Agree to do a deal thru paypal and then communication stops/slows as soon as they receive payment
5) Wrap the actual shoe box in tape instead of double boxing
 
Smh late night eBay lurkin caused me to pull the trigger on these. There were only two pairs on all of eBay and this happened to be my size so I couldn't resist
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Wasn't planning to buy anymore shoes until November, but I came across this listing and I couldn't resist :tongue: Let these slip through my fingers too many times. And funnily enough, a few minutes after this bid ended, a buyer purchased my pair of Military Blue 4's, which I had listed for more than these anyways.
 
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Scooped this up this week since I can't get the 6 till December. I don't use cases, but these are a lifesaver when in traveling for work.

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Little more than I would've liked to pay, but not bad. Just wish I could've gotten the Breds and SA's as well. :smh:

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