well ignorance is everywhere and the only way to not be duped is to educate yourself but even educated people will fall for these pairs sometimes, but... most consumers do not buy shoes to collect them, they wear them into the ground and move on to the next so i would actually hope that they receive the GM pair because of them being better quality and they will enjoy the product more.
it is morality but in all honesty unless you bought the pair from the store yourself you might as well never cop shoes again unless when u sell them everytime you say "i dont really know if these are authentic" this has affected the shoe collecting hobby so much that unless they are baltently obvious they are fake (i say fake meaning not real CF etc) then they cant be proved otherwise since JBs quality control is getting out of hand anyways that some shoes have come out worse than bad GM shoes. If your scared to buy a GM then stop buying anything other than retail cuz receipts can be had for their real pair and given to you for their GM pair they sold you.
i highly doubt theyre using better material to make unauthorized pairs
true, same quality material but made more to OG form i guess would be more correct but still a better looking shoe which is what retros should be, not the best performing shoe but atleast a good looking shoe not so cheapo and horrible form.
I agree with it getting tougher to tell these days. I also think it would be beneficial to all of us if more people knew the difference between an authentic and unauthorized pair. While, there are some people buying unauthorized pairs knowingly, there must be far more that are buying them unknowingly. Many people that bought them unknowingly would not have bought them had they known. If everybody knew the difference, prices would certainly drop on unauthorized pairs and in the end everybody wins. Those who want to buy unauthorized will get their shoes cheaper and those who don't want to touch them won't buy them unknowingly and end up flipping on the resell market and screwing someone else over. This is why I believe awareness is good for everybody.
One view you have is saying we can't verify a GM pair because its what's being produced. Then the next view says they are made more like the OG which contradicts statement A
lol yeah i guess you can look at it that way but if they are the same materials then the average non OG hardcore collector couldnt tell the small details that make them "OG" or not. this topic will go around in circles forever just in morality reasons alone, i for one do not feel bad at all about these things being out if they are the same materials because in the end JB and nike are still making billions per year which is a little bit more than what i make.
LolThe only thing I have gathered from the last 2 pages is that I want a Quarter Pounder with cheese...
I agree this is the big problem. Say I miss a release for what ever reason and I still want to pick up the pair. I can either pay crazy reseller prices from various internet sites or I can buy them off Ebay for reseller prices. The messed up thing about all this is that those sites and the Ebay sellers that have full size runs are more then likely selling grey market pairs. So instead of going through a middle man and paying jacked up prices I'm better off just going straight to the source myself and buying them from the china sites. In the past I would never think of doing this but the shoe game is all messed up nowadays.
I just don't agree with this. Like I said before the definition of authentic has to do with the ORIGIN. That's not my definition, that's webster's definition. A shoe doesn't magically become authentic because Nike just randomly says "okay, we can make money off of this now". Authorization does not in anyway equal authentication. And in no way do these shoes change once the officially get through "quality" control. Once the shoe is constructed no amount of authorization can change the actual product. You guys are arguing the legitimacy of the shoes that sparks the shoes origin. That's fine. That can be argued. You can even call them illegitimate because they're not authorized. But once you say they are fake or not authentic you're saying that they don't have the same orgins (materials, construction, quality, and durability) as the retail pairs and that is not the case. IT HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED THAT THESE SHOES COME FROM THE SAME PLACE AND ARE MADE FROM THE SAME STUFF. How you or I see these shoes is irrelevant. Your interpretation of authentic is also irrelevant. Authentic means have an unquestionable origin. Although the reason why these shoes are being made is up for debate it does not factor into the shoes authenticity. Where and how they're being made is already established, known, and unquestioned. Origin of retail pair=Origin of grey market pair. Geeze. Stop letting morals and illegality (intangeable things) confuse you with the physically tangeable ones.
this is funny i literally LOL'd but like it has been said before its not stealing since the products are made after their contracted number of shoes is made and finished so its extra product and since their shoes are selling out first day anyway they are actaully losing zero money so its not stealing from JB as much as paying someone else for something unauthorized, now if i got the same thing for a shoe thats sitting and they are losing money on a shoe that would be horrible, either way its not greatSorry I couldn't resist
Not that I disagree with you, just playing devil's advocate
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