How are you NOT paying for the female companion?

Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican

But the brokest dudes in the hood beat with no problem. Money spent and beatability aren't related.

QFT, if you want sex that badly fly to Vegas and find an escort. A lot of guys who buy women things go home empty handed while a broke dude in the hood is using her as a jumpoff.


And WTH are people eating for 70 dollars on a date?
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Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican

Originally Posted by blackmagnus514

Exactly.

I wouldn't even spend 50 on a chick till like the 2nd or third date, but thats me. I know a ton of concerts and events and stuff so we'd go to that. My first date with my girl was at a Fader concert but we was friends before so i knew where her head was at.

If it's just some random girl and she's remotely attractive, she's getting pipe and all you gotta do is just be cool and pick her brain. No way I'm spending 50 or 70 on some girl I just met. Much less in NYC where you can go out for cheap if you know spots.

If she's cool she'll understand. Most of my female friends don't even trip on that stuff beCause they can pay for themselves
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My man KSteezy said 50-70 as if it is a dollar or something. That is a whole months internet bill. I view that as too much for a first date. I probably don't know this woman from a can of paint. Why is she worthy of my $?
50-70 is a lot for dinner? That seems about quite normal for 2 people at a decent place.
I don't know dude but I live in NYC......an "cheap en tree" is 10-20 alone per person, not counting apps, and drinks for each person.

As for MisterP, the movies is never a good first date idea because of the silence, you want to get to know the person so I agree with you there. If some of you guys want to be cheap about it without looking cheap, grab a quick cheap bite to eat, walk around, sit at a park, just talk away (or let her talk) the rest of the way....you do not have to break the bank. Inviting a woman for dinner at your place with some netflex aka smash time should be the 2nd or 3rd date. She will know the deal already so she'll come looking extra nice.

I leave the movies and such for 2nd date, usually smashing by this point especially if you'e dealing with a mature woman (maybe 1st date if you play your cards right).

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[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]If you wanna talk about jumpoffs or women that are easy to just get a quick lay with no emotional attachment whatsoever, then thats a whole different discussion in itself. All the guidelines I go by are with quality, mature women that you actually want to get to know on a personal level.[/font]

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[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Jumpoffs are easy to get a quick lay even though I am all about quality thean quantitiy, there are women you can easily gte a lay without even spending a dime, and some that would probably just take a drink or 2 max for them to "open" up.
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Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican

Originally Posted by blackmagnus514

Exactly.

I wouldn't even spend 50 on a chick till like the 2nd or third date, but thats me. I know a ton of concerts and events and stuff so we'd go to that. My first date with my girl was at a Fader concert but we was friends before so i knew where her head was at.

If it's just some random girl and she's remotely attractive, she's getting pipe and all you gotta do is just be cool and pick her brain. No way I'm spending 50 or 70 on some girl I just met. Much less in NYC where you can go out for cheap if you know spots.

If she's cool she'll understand. Most of my female friends don't even trip on that stuff beCause they can pay for themselves
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My man KSteezy said 50-70 as if it is a dollar or something. That is a whole months internet bill. I view that as too much for a first date. I probably don't know this woman from a can of paint. Why is she worthy of my $?
50-70 is a lot for dinner? That seems about quite normal for 2 people at a decent place.
I don't know dude but I live in NYC......an "cheap en tree" is 10-20 alone per person, not counting apps, and drinks for each person.

As for MisterP, the movies is never a good first date idea because of the silence, you want to get to know the person so I agree with you there. If some of you guys want to be cheap about it without looking cheap, grab a quick cheap bite to eat, walk around, sit at a park, just talk away (or let her talk) the rest of the way....you do not have to break the bank. Inviting a woman for dinner at your place with some netflex aka smash time should be the 2nd or 3rd date. She will know the deal already so she'll come looking extra nice.

I leave the movies and such for 2nd date, usually smashing by this point especially if you'e dealing with a mature woman (maybe 1st date if you play your cards right).

[color= rgb(255, 255, 255)]But the brokest dudes in the hood beat with no problem. Money spent and beatability aren't related.[/color]


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[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]If you wanna talk about jumpoffs or women that are easy to just get a quick lay with no emotional attachment whatsoever, then thats a whole different discussion in itself. All the guidelines I go by are with quality, mature women that you actually want to get to know on a personal level.[/font]

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[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Jumpoffs are easy to get a quick lay even though I am all about quality thean quantitiy, there are women you can easily gte a lay without even spending a dime, and some that would probably just take a drink or 2 max for them to "open" up.
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What would be your ideal "first date" to make an impression on a quality woman that you really like then (not jump off)?

I'm a 26 year old dude with a career so "too much" varies from person to person, also depends on location. 50-70 for two people, and I'm talking a nice quality dinner in a nice environment, is nothing imo. I like to eat out all the time as well so a good dinner is not just beneficial for her, the food is damn good for me too. 
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What would be your ideal "first date" to make an impression on a quality woman that you really like then (not jump off)?

I'm a 26 year old dude with a career so "too much" varies from person to person, also depends on location. 50-70 for two people, and I'm talking a nice quality dinner in a nice environment, is nothing imo. I like to eat out all the time as well so a good dinner is not just beneficial for her, the food is damn good for me too. 
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Something FREE and creative is ideal. You live in NYC, so much to do. Same here is DC man. Don't need to spend $ to have a good time.

And remember, mature high quality women get slutted out as well. Most women with decent looks are jumpoffs for someone. All of this mature female talk, save it man. They aren't immune to the sexual desires of the human mind/body. Nobody's legs are closed in 2011.

So to relate quality and a woman's body count/sexual promiscuity is kind of outdated today.
 
Something FREE and creative is ideal. You live in NYC, so much to do. Same here is DC man. Don't need to spend $ to have a good time.

And remember, mature high quality women get slutted out as well. Most women with decent looks are jumpoffs for someone. All of this mature female talk, save it man. They aren't immune to the sexual desires of the human mind/body. Nobody's legs are closed in 2011.

So to relate quality and a woman's body count/sexual promiscuity is kind of outdated today.
 
In my single days..I dont' think I ever went out with a girl that didn't at least offer to pay for tip(on the 1st date)..or pick up the bill on a subsequent date.
sometimes I'd let them pay...sometimes I wouldn't let them

I'd probably drop them though if it became a pattern showing selfishness
 
In my single days..I dont' think I ever went out with a girl that didn't at least offer to pay for tip(on the 1st date)..or pick up the bill on a subsequent date.
sometimes I'd let them pay...sometimes I wouldn't let them

I'd probably drop them though if it became a pattern showing selfishness
 
Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican

Something FREE and creative is ideal. You live in NYC, so much to do. Same here is DC man. Don't need to spend $ to have a good time.

And remember, mature high quality women get slutted out as well. Most women with decent looks are jumpoffs for someone. All of this mature female talk, save it man. They aren't immune to the sexual desires of the human mind/body. Nobody's legs are closed in 2011.

So to relate quality and a woman's body count/sexual promiscuity is kind of outdated today.

Museums, art galleries even concerts have coupons...and would make just as good an impression as spending 70 dollars on food for a girl. Any woman who has a problem with a guy not spending 100 dollars on meals is probably not the type I'd want to date long-term anyways.
 
Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican

Something FREE and creative is ideal. You live in NYC, so much to do. Same here is DC man. Don't need to spend $ to have a good time.

And remember, mature high quality women get slutted out as well. Most women with decent looks are jumpoffs for someone. All of this mature female talk, save it man. They aren't immune to the sexual desires of the human mind/body. Nobody's legs are closed in 2011.

So to relate quality and a woman's body count/sexual promiscuity is kind of outdated today.

Museums, art galleries even concerts have coupons...and would make just as good an impression as spending 70 dollars on food for a girl. Any woman who has a problem with a guy not spending 100 dollars on meals is probably not the type I'd want to date long-term anyways.
 
Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican

Something FREE and creative is ideal. You live in NYC, so much to do. Same here is DC man. Don't need to spend $ to have a good time.

And remember, mature high quality women get slutted out as well. Most women with decent looks are jumpoffs for someone. All of this mature female talk, save it man. They aren't immune to the sexual desires of the human mind/body. Nobody's legs are closed in 2011.

So to relate quality and a woman's body count/sexual promiscuity is kind of outdated today.
Def, thats why good alternatives like the park walks like I mentioned are always cool in my book, women love that kind of stuff. Museums are def a great idea.
...and trust me, these "mature" women are sometimes just as easy, if not EASIER.....you just have to make that good solid first impression. These kind of women like a smart guy who can have a level headed conversation, and if your confident in yourself as it is then the rest is light work. 
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But I'm talking on strictly on taking someone out that you are actually really interested in getting to know and not just "smashing".
 
Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican

Something FREE and creative is ideal. You live in NYC, so much to do. Same here is DC man. Don't need to spend $ to have a good time.

And remember, mature high quality women get slutted out as well. Most women with decent looks are jumpoffs for someone. All of this mature female talk, save it man. They aren't immune to the sexual desires of the human mind/body. Nobody's legs are closed in 2011.

So to relate quality and a woman's body count/sexual promiscuity is kind of outdated today.
Def, thats why good alternatives like the park walks like I mentioned are always cool in my book, women love that kind of stuff. Museums are def a great idea.
...and trust me, these "mature" women are sometimes just as easy, if not EASIER.....you just have to make that good solid first impression. These kind of women like a smart guy who can have a level headed conversation, and if your confident in yourself as it is then the rest is light work. 
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But I'm talking on strictly on taking someone out that you are actually really interested in getting to know and not just "smashing".
 
I have heard a female say that spending $ on her on the first date shows that you can take care of her long time. I made her repeat it 3 times and think about it and then she broke down and admitted it was stupid. She said it was something her mother told her.
 
I have heard a female say that spending $ on her on the first date shows that you can take care of her long time. I made her repeat it 3 times and think about it and then she broke down and admitted it was stupid. She said it was something her mother told her.
 
But if it is the FIRST date, the idea of really interested in getting to know doesn't even exist. It is a blank slate. If she makes a nice first impression THEN I might become really interested in getting to know her. But until I spend some time with a girl, that interest isn't there. She would be nothing more than a pretty face at that point.

I just prefer to reserve my $ on people I know and know are worthy of my time.
 
But if it is the FIRST date, the idea of really interested in getting to know doesn't even exist. It is a blank slate. If she makes a nice first impression THEN I might become really interested in getting to know her. But until I spend some time with a girl, that interest isn't there. She would be nothing more than a pretty face at that point.

I just prefer to reserve my $ on people I know and know are worthy of my time.
 
This thread is all over the place...Why is likelihood of smashin being tied in with paying? I think OP meant paying for dates with your steady girl, not some random chick that you took out just because you wanna get laid..Of course you can get some P w/o taking her out on a nice date, but I'm pretty sure it's common knowledge that you don't have to do much to impress a @%@@ because she's down for the D regardless
 
This thread is all over the place...Why is likelihood of smashin being tied in with paying? I think OP meant paying for dates with your steady girl, not some random chick that you took out just because you wanna get laid..Of course you can get some P w/o taking her out on a nice date, but I'm pretty sure it's common knowledge that you don't have to do much to impress a @%@@ because she's down for the D regardless
 
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