"I don't care about learning, I just want the grade" vol. Is this where we are?

[mideastbeast]

^Word.

Just give me my degree so I can work and I'm good. If I want to learn something I learn about it myself. Out of all the things we learned in school maybe2% was important to me. What a joke.

 

[infamousod]

if they didn't teach cursive in elementary then no one would know how to read it and we wouldn't be able to read old documents. if they didn'tteach chemistry in high school no one would be inspired to become a scientist. (it's unfortunate they had to lie to you to get you to learn something, thatdoes need to change)

Even if the classes were irrelevant to you, it meant something to someone else, and being forced to take that class I guess makes you collateral damage. But inmy mind if there are a million of you suffering through a boring chemistry lecture but one person who was forced to take it ends up liking it and pursuing adegree in it, it was worth it.

Not to get too far off topic but that mentality is why a lot of urban youths don't make it out of the ghetto. They don't think the classes matter, theyskip and hit the streets cause they think that's what they need to be ready for. When if a few more of them would stay in school they might have a chance.

 

[bonafide hustla]

Originally Posted by infamousod

if they didn't teach cursive in elementary then no one would know how to read it and we wouldn't be able to read old documents. if they didn't teach chemistry in high school no one would be inspired to become a scientist. (it's unfortunate they had to lie to you to get you to learn something, that does need to change)

Even if the classes were irrelevant to you, it meant something to someone else, and being forced to take that class I guess makes you collateral damage. But in my mind if there are a million of you suffering through a boring chemistry lecture but one person who was forced to take it ends up liking it and pursuing a degree in it, it was worth it.

Not to get too far off topic but that mentality is why a lot of urban youths don't make it out of the ghetto. They don't think the classes matter, they skip and hit the streets cause they think that's what they need to be ready for. When if a few more of them would stay in school they might have a chance.

TRUTH. Education at the grade school level is by far the most important to your future...imo

 

[barack 0drama]

Yes, This is where we are.

School is a game...You just have to play it.

 

[frank 7he t4nk]

It seems like that with a lot of students these days, sometimes I find myself in that mentality as well.

The ends justify the means.

 

[DownByLaw]

Originally Posted by I AM KNOWLEDGE

Man who are you telling? It's a part of the dumbing down process of American Education.

It pisses me off too. Tell me this. How many times have you gone to class, the teacher not show up, and the class celebrate it like it's some holiday.

I say damn that. The professor is going to get paid regardless, hell, you are paying them. And when that happens you aren't getting what you pay for.

But let someone go to McDonalds and not get their large fry that they paid for, and it will be all hell to pay.

They doing it wrong.

/thread

 

[justhotkicks]

Originally Posted by upstateboibeats


Now High school...they have you learning chemistry, geology, etc. Doesn't do %#*% for anyone that isnt going to be a scientist, so why require it? Shut up and give me the grade.

Well, they're not forcing you to learn science, they're seeing if you're capable of learning science. Heck, I work in thehealth/medical field and 90% of the stuff I learned from classes are somewhat irrelevant.

 

[mf doomer]

Genaral knowledge> Organized knowledge.

In college youl'l come across some boring classes, but within that you never know when you have to apply what youv'e learned one day.

Why not maximize your potential and cram it for the sake of the ability to learn. That should be more appreciated than 'just' recieving a grade.

 

[eight2one]

Blink, u make a lot of post...i just cared about the grade

 

[kicksgetmehigh]

Originally Posted by T i c a l

Well, fact is you won't use most of the crap they feed you in college in your career so there's no point in learning it unless it interests you.

- Tical.

With so many BS that these schools are teaching, theres no way one can survive in the real world.

 

[sole addict ny]

wait a minute, I have to offer money to take classes at a institution for learning and get back a letter grade? Is there a big prize at the end? Wow, what isthis thing called?

 

[bgl2687]

there maybe shortcuts to certain majors where you dont need to learn, but come engineering,math,science,computer majors you will need to learn. Happened to meI just got the grades to get by not caring then when I got to upper division programming classes I'm scratching my head gotta put in extra work to learnthe stuff.

 

[sole addict ny]

Originally Posted by BgL2687

there maybe shortcuts to certain majors where you dont need to learn, but come engineering,math,science,computer majors you will need to learn. Happened to me I just got the grades to get by not caring then when I got to upper division programming classes I'm scratching my head gotta put in extra work to learn the stuff.

cosign its the truth

 

[tbone95860]

Combination of both for me.... learning & just getting the good grade.

 

[selectaclutchstar]

Cut and dry, it's been like that for years. Sure they got a 4.0 or above and got their degree and whatnot, but when you see 'em where they workin',Best Buy, department store, even yet, a desk job not pertaining to the degree they earned; nor do they have any intention to get a job that they'studied' super hard for in school. Don't get me wrong, there are people who absorbed the material they were taught, and then there are those whodid the work, but didn't learn anything. It's a darn shame!!!

 

[worldbeefreeg]

Originally Posted by iBlink

I'm talking to a friend and a friend of his about school. I'm a poli sci major and she's scheduled to take a poli sci class next semester. I then proceed to tell her my old professor is a pretty good one. He's hard, but you'll learn the stuff he teaches for sure. The girl, who's rather cute IMO, then proceeds to say she doesn't care about learning, she's only concerned with her grade. I couldn't believe it; that's straight up high school mentality man.

Jesus told her she that she should only care about grades. He's present with her at all times.

 

[kavinsky]

My college is the reason I care about GPA more than learning. It's nothing more than a business system. It's like sports, no one gives a %!%+ how youplay the game, it's whether you win or lose.

 

[2sappy]

some of the stuff you guys are saying is true. in college there are people that either choose one side or the other. in the beginning of the quarter, therewere a lot of people in my English class, for example. most of them were there to learn, while the rest were there just for the grade (I asked around). in thebeginning of the course, the teach said that very few people were gonna get anything higher than an A. the next day, a few people dropped the class. fastforward to halfway through the course, people werent getting the grades that they wanted, so they stopped coming to class. in the span of a week the class wentfrom about 25-30 people, to about 10-12

. it was a shame because peoplewere depriving themselves of the knowledge that they could have learned in this course, i mean the teach wasn't bad at all. he gave us topics that made youthink differently about how you use words, as well as the world around you. anyway, i was gonna drop the course too cuz i wasnt doin so good, but i decided tostick it out, and it worked well for me (got a B by the way

).it sucks that people have forsaken the persuit of knowledge just for better grades. is this what our educational system hascome to?

 

[infamousod]

Originally Posted by SelectaClutchStar

Cut and dry, it's been like that for years. Sure they got a 4.0 or above and got their degree and whatnot, but when you see 'em where they workin', Best Buy, department store, even yet, a desk job not pertaining to the degree they earned; nor do they have any intention to get a job that they 'studied' super hard for in school. Don't get me wrong, there are people who absorbed the material they were taught, and then there are those who did the work, but didn't learn anything. It's a darn shame!!!

you're still missing a few segments if you want to break it down like that; there are a lot more variables. But you're right, I have a friend whomajored in geology and he's an athletic trainer straight out of college. He got the grades and he earned a degree which will open doors because companieswant to see that you're capable of earning one. But I wonder if he ever really liked the field or ever seriously thought about working in it. He mostlikely strolled along passing classes and not learning much. He played the system into getting a degree he will never explicitly use.

That said I don't think he regrets going to college at all. He's really smart and he proud he has a diploma to put on his wall. Some of you may saycollege was a waste of his time and there are more like him but really he just failed to properly adjust to what he really wanted to do in life. With a degreein a health-related field he would have more to stand on while pursuing bigger dreams on his current path.

 

[Rootin4EverybodyBlack]

For me I used to really care about learning, but then i found out....most teachers/professors don't care if they actually TEACH you, its just a check forthem. That included with all the b.s. classes and work, my mentality just changed. So yes it just is about to grade to me now.

 

[highrep87]

Originally Posted by mdwst9

i go in wanting to learn but some of them teachers b wilding man so sometimes i have no choice but to jus try to get the best grade i can get.

 

[NotoriousLEEdope]

Originally Posted by iBlink

Originally Posted by I AM KNOWLEDGE

Man who are you telling? It's a part of the dumbing down process of American Education.

It pisses me off too. Tell me this. How many times have you gone to class, the teacher not show up, and the class celebrate it like it's some holiday.

I say damn that. The professor is going to get paid regardless, hell, you are paying them. And when that happens you aren't getting what you pay for.

But let someone go to McDonalds and not get their large fry that they paid for, and it will be all hell to pay.

They doing it wrong.

Exactly.

Tical, I agree that some of the mess they teach you is pointless (all math besides the basics ftmfl), but the fact of the matter is that you have to pass the class that you paid for so why not actually try to gain some knowledge in the area?

I find it very hard to be truly interested in every class that you have to take. For example, I am a Biology major and I've had to takePhysics classes in order to get my degree. Physics is something that I am not even remotely interested in...it just doesn't grab my attention. However,I'm genuinely interested in all of my bio classes because I find them interesting no matter how hard they may be. If it's science or any kind ofhistory then I am tuned in no matter what. I think that people are drawn to the subjects they are interested in and thirst for knowledge in those subjects.Other classes get the "I don't care but I'll do the work treatment."

 

[ninjallamafromhell]

Originally Posted by Nako XL

Originally Posted by T i c a l

Well, fact is you won't use most of the crap they feed you in college in your career so there's no point in learning it unless it interests you.

- Tical.

But where's the ambition? Where's the thirst for knowledge??

There's no time. You just get crap flung at you, and then you have to regurgitate it a week later on a test. I don't know anyone thatlearns anything this way, but I know I don't. I got my final on Vector Calculus in a few days, and I haven't retained a single thing in that class. The only things I know are the things we went over in class last week.

 

[kavinsky]

Originally Posted by 2sappy

some of the stuff you guys are saying is true. in college there are people that either choose one side or the other. in the beginning of the quarter, there were a lot of people in my English class, for example. most of them were there to learn, while the rest were there just for the grade (I asked around). in the beginning of the course, the teach said that very few people were gonna get anything higher than an A. the next day, a few people dropped the class. fast forward to halfway through the course, people werent getting the grades that they wanted, so they stopped coming to class. in the span of a week the class went from about 25-30 people, to about 10-12

. it was a shame because people were depriving themselves of the knowledge that they could have learned in this course, i mean the teach wasn't bad at all. he gave us topics that made you think differently about how you use words, as well as the world around you. anyway, i was gonna drop the course too cuz i wasnt doin so good, but i decided to stick it out, and it worked well for me (got a B by the way

). it sucks that people have forsaken the persuit of knowledge just for better grades. is this what our educational system has come to?

uh huh...such a pity

I'm more than intellectually capable of "learning" everything in the course, but I'm also much smarter in that I figure out what the profwants for me to get an A and that's the bottom line. I learn for personal reasons on my spare time through investment magazines, not these BS101 uselessbusiness courses

EDIT: and btw that sentence structure is

 

[mateen cleaves]

its been like that