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I dont know about you, but the people that i know that have 4.0 that didnt really cared what they learned are getting mad money. They are not working at notbest buy.
"I don't care about learning, I just want the grade" vol. Is this where we are?
I dont know about you, but the people that i know that have 4.0 that didnt really cared what they learned are getting mad money. They are not working at notbest buy.
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Honestly I think school kills the idea of learning before you even get to college. Thats what happen to me at least (not in college yet). I'm not surewhere everything flipped but it got to a point where school didn't interest me AT ALL. It was the same thing every year. It was just frustrating after awhile. But thats just me though. I am wired differently. I usually don't like going along with stuff just because.
marleysprotege
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i can honestly tell you ... college has taught me nothing but time management and work ethic ... in fact, its made me realize what i have to do to succeed inthis world ... be a suck up and look like you try ...
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I use to hate those people in class that were really there to learn. 90% of my class was there as a stepping stone to something better. Most of the stuff theyteach will never be applied in your job choice with the exception of the medical field, law, and a few other majors.
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My dude right here is speak the true
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im guilty of this when i was in school
... i aint gonlie all i cared about was graduating
and i guess this is thereason why im at my dead end job now
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Depends on the subject and my interest.
for example if it is History 200-300 level class focusing on Industrial revolution or even political assertion and revolution in the 1848s, now that issomething worth your total focus and time. But if it is some nonsense cough:::music appreciation:::cough then that is totally and utterly boring and all I willdo is probably count down the days, cheat and get the grade by just doing exactly what is on the syllabus and nothing more.
for example if it is History 200-300 level class focusing on Industrial revolution or even political assertion and revolution in the 1848s, now that issomething worth your total focus and time. But if it is some nonsense cough:::music appreciation:::cough then that is totally and utterly boring and all I willdo is probably count down the days, cheat and get the grade by just doing exactly what is on the syllabus and nothing more.
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Yeah He is pretty much dead on. How do you they expect you to want to learn and put forth 100% all the time when you have job, home life and thenon top of all that they still want their 10-x page papers
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man it all starts with the b.s. professors who do stupid +*%+ like not give a student an A- when they have an 89.4% or something. I had an upper div statsmidterm and failed it b/c i wrote my answers in in bullet point format, instead of paragraphs. Teacher said if i wrote in paragraph form i would of got a B b/cmy answers were correct. what sense does this make on a MATH test? I learned the material and wasn't rewarded, which is why students dont want to learn.
also why do professors curve classes if they care about learning. If i deserve an A on my project/paper/test etc. what does it matter what the next man got.College is a messed up system...
also why do professors curve classes if they care about learning. If i deserve an A on my project/paper/test etc. what does it matter what the next man got.College is a messed up system...
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I care abt football the school... ha ha ha
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of course, sometimes it is best to learn outside the classrooms cuz sometimes you just dont learn everything that you need to inside, but its thepeople that dont even put any effort in trying to learn at least one thing from a class that really disappoint me. it seemsthat the fear of getting an F far outweighs the internal pursuit of knowledge that we all have. humans are creatures that are supposed to have a thirst forknowledge, but with each new generation, this thirst that we had is becoming more of a relic of our past. its a travesty...Originally Posted by kavinsky
Originally Posted by 2sappy
some of the stuff you guys are saying is true. in college there are people that either choose one side or the other. in the beginning of the quarter, there were a lot of people in my English class, for example. most of them were there to learn, while the rest were there just for the grade (I asked around). in the beginning of the course, the teach said that very few people were gonna get anything higher than an A. the next day, a few people dropped the class. fast forward to halfway through the course, people werent getting the grades that they wanted, so they stopped coming to class. in the span of a week the class went from about 25-30 people, to about 10-12. it was a shame because people were depriving themselves of the knowledge that they could have learned in this course, i mean the teach wasn't bad at all. he gave us topics that made you think differently about how you use words, as well as the world around you. anyway, i was gonna drop the course too cuz i wasnt doin so good, but i decided to stick it out, and it worked well for me (got a B by the way
). it sucks that people have forsaken the pursuit of knowledge just for better grades. is this what our educational system has come to?
uh huh...such a pity
I'm more than intellectually capable of "learning" everything in the course, but I'm also much smarter in that I figure out what the prof wants for me to get an A and that's the bottom line. I learn for personal reasons on my spare time through investment magazines, not these BS101 useless business courses
EDIT: and btw that sentence structure is
oh and thatnks for the comment, i try my best
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The whole system is flawed. Some teachers are stiffs man. I had plenty of them. Oh and another thing that bothers me on a great level, whenteachers ask you what you want to be in life. I remember in 10th grade my English teacher asked us that question. I said I want to play professional football.Her response is "you have to pick a real job and chances are you probably won't make it".
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what? I aint huge on the whole proper grammar thing, but at least take the time to convey what you trying to say homie
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C average ftw...although, I try my best to learn all the interesting things they teach in college.
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Learning is overrated. When it comes down to it, would you rather get that high grade that will boost your GPA which in turn helps your class rank andpossible grad school applications, or struggle through a class, and possibly do worse in other classes as a result, to "learn" something you'lleventually forget? I gave up on learning for the sake of learning a long time ago. Learning to pad that GPA ftw
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I hate that society has placed such an emphasis on grades and GPAs. That #%%# stresses me man... I also hate when people have such high expectations for melike I can't $*@% up. I'm not perfect dammit but I always do my best.
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Being in highschool right now, i've realized that my GPA is what's going to get me in to college, not really what i've learned.
And so i'm pretty much straight "A's" but i don't really feel like i'm all that smart. I just get the work done. So if that'swhat's
gonna get me into college than that's what i'm gonna do
And so i'm pretty much straight "A's" but i don't really feel like i'm all that smart. I just get the work done. So if that'swhat's
gonna get me into college than that's what i'm gonna do
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you do realize learning and good grades aren't inversely proportional right? it is possible to do both. you just need to approach the class with the rightattitude.
the discussion was mostly based on taking easy classes for the grade or hard classes to learn and probably not get the straight As.
the discussion was mostly based on taking easy classes for the grade or hard classes to learn and probably not get the straight As.
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Originally Posted by eNPHAN
, it's just not in my nature..
which is funny cause every job i had, except at a sneaker store, this attribute has impacted me negatively...
, i'd rather have my pride tho...
tell me about it...i think you (at least ima have to bite the bullet) and just do whats necessary for me to make it where i want to be. I dont like it either.
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there are however tons of factors involved which place a heavy emphasis on getting good grades. Generally guaranteeing yourself a good grade isbased on taking the class that will be the easiest to get the good grade in, and a lot of times those classes are perceived as the ones that you dont reallylearn much in.
in my collegiate walk, I -learned- that the hardest and most challenging classes will force you to do more study, research, and force you to devote more time. time is of the essence, so devoting lots of time to harder courses takes away from balancing all the other factors of life/school. That said, its a lot oftimes easier to just take the easiest classes to keep the academic burden low and you can devote your time to bettering your future in areas that you feel willaffect it
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Just learn enough to get that A.
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The greatest thing I have learned from UC Santa Cruz is the value of education. UCSC didn't even use a letter grade system until 1997, using rather writtenevaluations of an individual's progress. Albeit this was possible due to the small size of UCSC ( >15k until 2000).
Many of my professors, at least the tenured ones from yesteryear, still prefer to focus on the written evaluations instead of the grade. What impressed me mostis the dogged determination of many of the professors in the History and Environmental Studies departments to establish a relationship with each student.It's fairly common for my professors to know my name by face and my educational progress in their class.
I was encouraged to ENGAGE my education - get my money's worth, if you will. Education here focuses on participating in experiential learning - applying myknowledge through research within the community - as well as monitoring growth and progress of individual students and testing for HOW MUCH one has learned,rather than specifically WHAT was learned. For example, many of the research papers I write are less rigidly structured than simple multiple choice or shortanswer tests, and are more indicative of my educational progress than a scantron exam. I feel this enlarges the capacity for learning, and provides much moremotivation and fulfillment than ranking individuals by letters.
I truly appreciate that I was fortunate enough to go to college. I realize now that it is a privilege, and understand what an injustice that it is notavailable to everyone. I am thrilled by what I'm learning, and am so thankful I get the opportunity to learn. The fact that
Many of my professors, at least the tenured ones from yesteryear, still prefer to focus on the written evaluations instead of the grade. What impressed me mostis the dogged determination of many of the professors in the History and Environmental Studies departments to establish a relationship with each student.It's fairly common for my professors to know my name by face and my educational progress in their class.
I was encouraged to ENGAGE my education - get my money's worth, if you will. Education here focuses on participating in experiential learning - applying myknowledge through research within the community - as well as monitoring growth and progress of individual students and testing for HOW MUCH one has learned,rather than specifically WHAT was learned. For example, many of the research papers I write are less rigidly structured than simple multiple choice or shortanswer tests, and are more indicative of my educational progress than a scantron exam. I feel this enlarges the capacity for learning, and provides much moremotivation and fulfillment than ranking individuals by letters.
I truly appreciate that I was fortunate enough to go to college. I realize now that it is a privilege, and understand what an injustice that it is notavailable to everyone. I am thrilled by what I'm learning, and am so thankful I get the opportunity to learn. The fact that
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i was like that the first 3 years of college in pharmacy school. it was what seemed back then like useless information but now that i'm actually learningabout the drugs and the medical conditions those previous topics sometimes comes back to haunt me. now i'm more worried about learning than the grade i getbecause what i learn now i will use forever as long as i'm working as a pharmacist.
also if your parents are paying $$$ for your education why not at least try to learn something out of it?
also if your parents are paying $$$ for your education why not at least try to learn something out of it?
