Is Hip Hop the most pirated Genre of Music? (serious discussion)

Never heard of Taylor Swift, or hell even the Rolling Stones having to push their album ahead because of bootleggin.... No one here thinks Lady Gaga dont get bootlegged, I even d/l some of her songs, but you cannot tell me a Pop/Rock/R&B/Classical/Techno/Country artist out there getting pirated more than Jay, Wayne, Drake, or WHOEVER...... If you born before 1980 I doubt you a serious rap head like THAT...........and older heads just aint about goin to PirateBay............cats barely know how to email w/ attachments
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house music is.
it might not be your cup of tea, but i would say house music is. maybe not one single dj/song does, but in general it does. there are so many blogs and sites hosting stuff for free, no one buys songs off of beatport,or other sites. 99.9% of ppl i know that listen to house music illegally download it
 
house music is.
it might not be your cup of tea, but i would say house music is. maybe not one single dj/song does, but in general it does. there are so many blogs and sites hosting stuff for free, no one buys songs off of beatport,or other sites. 99.9% of ppl i know that listen to house music illegally download it
 
 
[h2]2010 Album Sales: Way Worse Than 2009 Album Sales[/h2]

Posted Wed Jan 5, 2011 2:57pm PST by Daniel Kreps
in Amplifier

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If one of the music industry's New Year's Resolutions was to sell more albums in 2011, it's perhaps fortunate that the bar is now lower than ever. For the fourth straight year, CD sales in the U.S. dropped by 20 percent, and music sales in general fell 12.8 percent compared to the already-not-good 2009 totals. That's according to Nielsen SoundScan's year-end sales roundup, which has become an almost annual buzz kill/reminder of just how bad things are in the music biz.

How bad is it? To begin with, the 326.2 million albums sold in 2010 was the lowest total since Nielsen SoundScan began keeping tabs on sales in 1991. Only 13 albums managed to attain million-selling platinum distinction, compared to the 22 platinum albums that earned it in 2009, which in itself was a paltry total compared to the glory days of compact disc megasales -- remember when 'N Sync debuted with 2.42 million sold in a single week? (The year was 2000.) Eminem's "Recovery" was the past year's top-selling album with 3.4 million copies, also not impressive, especially when matched up against the 10 million copies "The Marshall Mathers LP" sold a decade ago. Of those 13 platinum albums in 2010, only four sold over 2 million copies.

[Related: Music stars that can (and can't) sell magazines]

But it gets worse: Even catalog album sales, comprised of 18-months-or-older releases that have perennially been a magnet for classic rock fans who still purchase their music legally, plummeted 15.3 percent in 2010. Billboard finds the dark silver lining in those numbers by saying that it wasn't that 2010 was poor-selling, it's just that 2009 unfairly raised expectations by being the recipient of the sales surge following Michael Jackson's death and the Beatles remasters.

The lone good news seems to come on the digital front, where single track downloads were actually up one percent compared to last year's totals. That's what we call "growth." (However, total overall music sales -- digital and physical albums, music videos, singles, everything -- were down 2.4 percent, the first time ever in the SoundScan era that the number decreased from the previous year, so ignore that growth thing.) A recent Pew study involving Internet users revealed that a third of respondents said they purchased digital music legally, but doesn't mention how the other two-thirds are getting their music, but given this year's SoundScan numbers we can assume they aren't paying for it.

[Rewind: Did rap stars' album leaks destroy their sales?]

She can't sell magazines, but Taylor Swift was 2010's best-selling artist as her discography combined sold 4,470,000 copies last year. While acts like the "Glee" cast, Eminem and Gaga were no surprise to make the Top 10, both Michael Jackson (Number Eight) and the Beatles (Number 10) infiltrated this list.

• Your Top Five Music Purchasing Cities: New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Philadelphia, and Washington, D.C. Hang your head in shame, Atlanta.

• Universal Music once again led all major labels with 30.8 percent market share of the 2010 sales. And despite all their troubles, EMI's market share was up nearly one percent from its harsh 2009.
 
 
[h2]2010 Album Sales: Way Worse Than 2009 Album Sales[/h2]

Posted Wed Jan 5, 2011 2:57pm PST by Daniel Kreps
in Amplifier

amplifier-651247660-1294339570.jpg


If one of the music industry's New Year's Resolutions was to sell more albums in 2011, it's perhaps fortunate that the bar is now lower than ever. For the fourth straight year, CD sales in the U.S. dropped by 20 percent, and music sales in general fell 12.8 percent compared to the already-not-good 2009 totals. That's according to Nielsen SoundScan's year-end sales roundup, which has become an almost annual buzz kill/reminder of just how bad things are in the music biz.

How bad is it? To begin with, the 326.2 million albums sold in 2010 was the lowest total since Nielsen SoundScan began keeping tabs on sales in 1991. Only 13 albums managed to attain million-selling platinum distinction, compared to the 22 platinum albums that earned it in 2009, which in itself was a paltry total compared to the glory days of compact disc megasales -- remember when 'N Sync debuted with 2.42 million sold in a single week? (The year was 2000.) Eminem's "Recovery" was the past year's top-selling album with 3.4 million copies, also not impressive, especially when matched up against the 10 million copies "The Marshall Mathers LP" sold a decade ago. Of those 13 platinum albums in 2010, only four sold over 2 million copies.

[Related: Music stars that can (and can't) sell magazines]

But it gets worse: Even catalog album sales, comprised of 18-months-or-older releases that have perennially been a magnet for classic rock fans who still purchase their music legally, plummeted 15.3 percent in 2010. Billboard finds the dark silver lining in those numbers by saying that it wasn't that 2010 was poor-selling, it's just that 2009 unfairly raised expectations by being the recipient of the sales surge following Michael Jackson's death and the Beatles remasters.

The lone good news seems to come on the digital front, where single track downloads were actually up one percent compared to last year's totals. That's what we call "growth." (However, total overall music sales -- digital and physical albums, music videos, singles, everything -- were down 2.4 percent, the first time ever in the SoundScan era that the number decreased from the previous year, so ignore that growth thing.) A recent Pew study involving Internet users revealed that a third of respondents said they purchased digital music legally, but doesn't mention how the other two-thirds are getting their music, but given this year's SoundScan numbers we can assume they aren't paying for it.

[Rewind: Did rap stars' album leaks destroy their sales?]

She can't sell magazines, but Taylor Swift was 2010's best-selling artist as her discography combined sold 4,470,000 copies last year. While acts like the "Glee" cast, Eminem and Gaga were no surprise to make the Top 10, both Michael Jackson (Number Eight) and the Beatles (Number 10) infiltrated this list.

• Your Top Five Music Purchasing Cities: New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Philadelphia, and Washington, D.C. Hang your head in shame, Atlanta.

• Universal Music once again led all major labels with 30.8 percent market share of the 2010 sales. And despite all their troubles, EMI's market share was up nearly one percent from its harsh 2009.
 
Originally Posted by ca5perrr

house music is.
it might not be your cup of tea, but i would say house music is. maybe not one single dj/song does, but in general it does. there are so many blogs and sites hosting stuff for free, no one buys songs off of beatport,or other sites. 99.9% of ppl i know that listen to house music illegally download it
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If this were true, I wouldn't have a job. So I'm not so sure about this. 
Guys like Deadmau5, Tiesto, Armin etc. sell very well on the download front off of touring. Not much Radio exposure. Itunes and Beatport. 

You may know some people who DL. I know most DJ's will. But most of the actual audience does download. 

Case in point. Deadmau5 did over 2500 downloads this week on "A City In Florida" off of his new album. 22,000 to date. 

Not a single. 

"Ghosts N Stuff" is doing 11,000 a week. And it's an old record at that. Over 400,000 to date. That was a single, but not much US Radio play. 

I know he's a phenomenon. But relative to marketing, radio play and exposure compared to Rap artists etc., these guys sell more. 

I have a record out right now that is #13 overall on Itunes. Edward Maya "Stereo Love". Outselling songs with WAY more Radio, Video etc. exposure. 

I would say the Electronic market, while smaller, is more passionate. So they buy. 

To the majority of Hip Hop fans, they music they ingest is disposable. So why buy? 

My 2 cents. 
 
Originally Posted by ca5perrr

house music is.
it might not be your cup of tea, but i would say house music is. maybe not one single dj/song does, but in general it does. there are so many blogs and sites hosting stuff for free, no one buys songs off of beatport,or other sites. 99.9% of ppl i know that listen to house music illegally download it
Click to expand...

If this were true, I wouldn't have a job. So I'm not so sure about this. 
Guys like Deadmau5, Tiesto, Armin etc. sell very well on the download front off of touring. Not much Radio exposure. Itunes and Beatport. 

You may know some people who DL. I know most DJ's will. But most of the actual audience does download. 

Case in point. Deadmau5 did over 2500 downloads this week on "A City In Florida" off of his new album. 22,000 to date. 

Not a single. 

"Ghosts N Stuff" is doing 11,000 a week. And it's an old record at that. Over 400,000 to date. That was a single, but not much US Radio play. 

I know he's a phenomenon. But relative to marketing, radio play and exposure compared to Rap artists etc., these guys sell more. 

I have a record out right now that is #13 overall on Itunes. Edward Maya "Stereo Love". Outselling songs with WAY more Radio, Video etc. exposure. 

I would say the Electronic market, while smaller, is more passionate. So they buy. 

To the majority of Hip Hop fans, they music they ingest is disposable. So why buy? 

My 2 cents. 
 
Originally Posted by illphillip

Originally Posted by ca5perrr

house music is.
it might not be your cup of tea, but i would say house music is. maybe not one single dj/song does, but in general it does. there are so many blogs and sites hosting stuff for free, no one buys songs off of beatport,or other sites. 99.9% of ppl i know that listen to house music illegally download it
Click to expand...

If this were true, I wouldn't have a job. So I'm not so sure about this. 
Guys like Deadmau5, Tiesto, Armin etc. sell very well on the download front off of touring. Not much Radio exposure. Itunes and Beatport. 

You may know some people who DL. I know most DJ's will. But most of the actual audience does download. 

Case in point. Deadmau5 did over 2500 downloads this week on "A City In Florida" off of his new album. 22,000 to date. 

Not a single. 

"Ghosts N Stuff" is doing 11,000 a week. And it's an old record at that. Over 400,000 to date. That was a single, but not much US Radio play. 

I know he's a phenomenon. But relative to marketing, radio play and exposure compared to Rap artists etc., these guys sell more. 

I have a record out right now that is #13 overall on Itunes. Edward Maya "Stereo Love". Outselling songs with WAY more Radio, Video etc. exposure. 

I would say the Electronic market, while smaller, is more passionate. So they buy. 

To the majority of Hip Hop fans, they music they ingest is disposable. So why buy? 

My 2 cents. 
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thanks for the insight. good to know,
i guess i was just thinking of the djs, and not the audience.
i cant stand stereo love
mad.gif
but ppl love it,
i know its coming when someone comes up to the both and theyre liek " can you play this song, it has a girl singing but you cant really hear her, its sounds so cool"
im like yeaah i know what song it is
grin.gif
 
Originally Posted by illphillip

Originally Posted by ca5perrr

house music is.
it might not be your cup of tea, but i would say house music is. maybe not one single dj/song does, but in general it does. there are so many blogs and sites hosting stuff for free, no one buys songs off of beatport,or other sites. 99.9% of ppl i know that listen to house music illegally download it
Click to expand...

If this were true, I wouldn't have a job. So I'm not so sure about this. 
Guys like Deadmau5, Tiesto, Armin etc. sell very well on the download front off of touring. Not much Radio exposure. Itunes and Beatport. 

You may know some people who DL. I know most DJ's will. But most of the actual audience does download. 

Case in point. Deadmau5 did over 2500 downloads this week on "A City In Florida" off of his new album. 22,000 to date. 

Not a single. 

"Ghosts N Stuff" is doing 11,000 a week. And it's an old record at that. Over 400,000 to date. That was a single, but not much US Radio play. 

I know he's a phenomenon. But relative to marketing, radio play and exposure compared to Rap artists etc., these guys sell more. 

I have a record out right now that is #13 overall on Itunes. Edward Maya "Stereo Love". Outselling songs with WAY more Radio, Video etc. exposure. 

I would say the Electronic market, while smaller, is more passionate. So they buy. 

To the majority of Hip Hop fans, they music they ingest is disposable. So why buy? 

My 2 cents. 
Click to expand...
thanks for the insight. good to know,
i guess i was just thinking of the djs, and not the audience.
i cant stand stereo love
mad.gif
but ppl love it,
i know its coming when someone comes up to the both and theyre liek " can you play this song, it has a girl singing but you cant really hear her, its sounds so cool"
im like yeaah i know what song it is
grin.gif
 
This is really a different era in music in general. Its crazy when look at how artist are selling now compared to 10-15 years ago.
 
This is really a different era in music in general. Its crazy when look at how artist are selling now compared to 10-15 years ago.
 
Originally Posted by ca5perrr

i cant stand stereo love
mad.gif
but ppl love it,
Click to expand...

smile.gif


Stereo Love did 125,000 downloads last week.

I can't stand it either though! HA! Chicks love that %#$+.

That record and Yolanda Be Cool vs. DCUP "We No Speak Americano" pretty much made my year. Mad downloads.
 
Originally Posted by ca5perrr

i cant stand stereo love
mad.gif
but ppl love it,
Click to expand...

smile.gif


Stereo Love did 125,000 downloads last week.

I can't stand it either though! HA! Chicks love that %#$+.

That record and Yolanda Be Cool vs. DCUP "We No Speak Americano" pretty much made my year. Mad downloads.
 
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