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Israel declares War - Destruction of Gaza / Growing conflict in Middle East
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I like Biden. He’s more honest
Lol
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Right? But we were called October 7 deniers and minimalists.
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Will Israel ever embrace non violence?
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For anyone that was saying that Hamas screwed themselves for Oct. 7, more like it was actually a reaction to Israeli violence and Hamas had no way out.
Oct. 7 though was used as a pre-text for Netanyahu and their goons, along with US/Western corporations and governments, to proceed with the Trump Plan that included being spearheaded by Kushner.
This is what they are going for:
Source: https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/29/worl...anwhile-in-america-january-29-intl/index.html
More information here: https://www.timesofisrael.com/kushner-peace-plan-urged-palestinian-jordanian-saudi-land-swap-book/
This is all already was pre-planned and right now it is being executed.
So, that is why Netanyahu does want Trump to win. But, if Harris wins, the whole point for Biden in supporting the genocide is to dismantle and weaken Hamas as much as possible, because it benefits the Saudis too and to weaken the Iranian allies and axis (Syria, Yemen, Hezbollah, Hamas, Iraqi factions, etc.). Saudi , Egypt, Israel and U.S. wants Iran as weaker as possible to shift power balance in the region.
Another angle having to do other than with oil as a resource and land grabs, is also the narco-trade in the region. Syria is supposedly the biggest narco state in the world, and also whoever has power over the Bekaa Valley in Lebanon, has immense presence and power in the region over the drug trade. That is why they are also able to support their power and purchase of arms. Syria and south Lebanon are making billions off this drug called Captagon (which actually is ironically purchased in highest amounts by Gulf states). This trade goes all over the world, and even to Venezuela.
Turkey and Qatar are 2-faced and in the middle between both alliances/powers as they play the double game with Hamas. They actually ally at times indirectly with Egypt, Saudi, Israel et al et al to go against Syria. But where Saudi is against Turkey and Qatar is they beef over the Muslim brotherhood which Saudi does not want to extend its presence and power in the region.
But, as for Biden and company, they want to get the US-Saudi defense pact going and normalization, and then so that's what they have in it for each other. Both want Hamas/Iran/Hezbollah/Syria axis weakened, and so then Saudi should officially normalize with Israel for U.S. and Israel to attempt this with wars on their behalf as well, while then Saudi will get U.S. help finally to expand their nuclear capacity and development for deterrence against Iran's nuclear capabilities that will be in full development soon if not stopped.
Edit: Obviously Russia, China and other powers are involved and this is all not even the tip of the iceberg. But, you'd have to know history, politics and the ongoing shift in alliances and powers to get what's beneath the fog of war. Imperial and colonial powers do not give a $%^& about any of us, and as people that is why we should side against these corporations and politicians. We need to prioritize liberation for the people, the masses, not the ruling 1%. They are evil, maniacal and genocidal, and we need to stop being complacent to their use of powers to control and use us. We are all used just as pawns and all they care about is killing us off, or using our bodies to exploit us for labour to feed their riches.
Oct. 7 though was used as a pre-text for Netanyahu and their goons, along with US/Western corporations and governments, to proceed with the Trump Plan that included being spearheaded by Kushner.
This is what they are going for:
Source: https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/29/worl...anwhile-in-america-january-29-intl/index.html
More information here: https://www.timesofisrael.com/kushner-peace-plan-urged-palestinian-jordanian-saudi-land-swap-book/
This is all already was pre-planned and right now it is being executed.
So, that is why Netanyahu does want Trump to win. But, if Harris wins, the whole point for Biden in supporting the genocide is to dismantle and weaken Hamas as much as possible, because it benefits the Saudis too and to weaken the Iranian allies and axis (Syria, Yemen, Hezbollah, Hamas, Iraqi factions, etc.). Saudi , Egypt, Israel and U.S. wants Iran as weaker as possible to shift power balance in the region.
Another angle having to do other than with oil as a resource and land grabs, is also the narco-trade in the region. Syria is supposedly the biggest narco state in the world, and also whoever has power over the Bekaa Valley in Lebanon, has immense presence and power in the region over the drug trade. That is why they are also able to support their power and purchase of arms. Syria and south Lebanon are making billions off this drug called Captagon (which actually is ironically purchased in highest amounts by Gulf states). This trade goes all over the world, and even to Venezuela.
Turkey and Qatar are 2-faced and in the middle between both alliances/powers as they play the double game with Hamas. They actually ally at times indirectly with Egypt, Saudi, Israel et al et al to go against Syria. But where Saudi is against Turkey and Qatar is they beef over the Muslim brotherhood which Saudi does not want to extend its presence and power in the region.
But, as for Biden and company, they want to get the US-Saudi defense pact going and normalization, and then so that's what they have in it for each other. Both want Hamas/Iran/Hezbollah/Syria axis weakened, and so then Saudi should officially normalize with Israel for U.S. and Israel to attempt this with wars on their behalf as well, while then Saudi will get U.S. help finally to expand their nuclear capacity and development for deterrence against Iran's nuclear capabilities that will be in full development soon if not stopped.
Edit: Obviously Russia, China and other powers are involved and this is all not even the tip of the iceberg. But, you'd have to know history, politics and the ongoing shift in alliances and powers to get what's beneath the fog of war. Imperial and colonial powers do not give a $%^& about any of us, and as people that is why we should side against these corporations and politicians. We need to prioritize liberation for the people, the masses, not the ruling 1%. They are evil, maniacal and genocidal, and we need to stop being complacent to their use of powers to control and use us. We are all used just as pawns and all they care about is killing us off, or using our bodies to exploit us for labour to feed their riches.
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In the words of the wise Ritter…For anyone that was saying that Hamas screwed themselves for Oct. 7, more like it was actually a reaction to Israeli violence and Hamas had no way out.
Oct. 7 though was used as a pre-text for Netanyahu and their goons, along with US/Western corporations and governments, to proceed with the Trump Plan that included being spearheaded by Kushner.
This is what they are going for:
Source: https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/29/worl...anwhile-in-america-january-29-intl/index.html
More information here: https://www.timesofisrael.com/kushner-peace-plan-urged-palestinian-jordanian-saudi-land-swap-book/
This is all already was pre-planned and right now it is being executed.
So, that is why Netanyahu does want Trump to win. But, if Harris wins, the whole point for Biden in supporting the genocide is to dismantle and weaken Hamas as much as possible, because it benefits the Saudis too and to weaken the Iranian allies and axis (Syria, Yemen, Hezbollah, Hamas, Iraqi factions, etc.). Saudi , Egypt, Israel and U.S. wants Iran as weaker as possible to shift power balance in the region.
Another angle having to do other than with oil as a resource and land grabs, is also the narco-trade in the region. Syria is supposedly the biggest narco state in the world, and also whoever has power over the Bekaa Valley in Lebanon, has immense presence and power in the region over the drug trade. That is why they are also able to support their power and purchase of arms. Syria and south Lebanon are making billions off this drug called Captagon (which actually is ironically purchased in highest amounts by Gulf states). This trade goes all over the world, and even to Venezuela.
Turkey and Qatar are 2-faced and in the middle between both alliances/powers as they play the double game with Hamas. They actually ally at times indirectly with Egypt, Saudi, Israel et al et al to go against Syria. But where Saudi is against Turkey and Qatar is they beef over the Muslim brotherhood which Saudi does not want to extend its presence and power in the region.
But, as for Biden and company, they want to get the US-Saudi defense pact going and normalization, and then so that's what they have in it for each other. Both want Hamas/Iran/Hezbollah/Syria axis weakened, and so then Saudi should officially normalize with Israel for U.S. and Israel to attempt this with wars on their behalf as well, while then Saudi will get U.S. help finally to expand their nuclear capacity and development for deterrence against Iran's nuclear capabilities that will be in full development soon if not stopped.
Edit: Obviously Russia, China and other powers are involved and this is all not even the tip of the iceberg. But, you'd have to know history, politics and the ongoing shift in alliances and powers to get what's beneath the fog of war. Imperial and colonial powers do not give a $%^& about any of us, and as people that is why we should side against these corporations and politicians. We need to prioritize liberation for the people, the masses, not the ruling 1%. They are evil, maniacal and genocidal, and we need to stop being complacent to their use of powers to control and use us. We are all used just as pawns and all they care about is killing us off, or using our bodies to exploit us for labour to feed their riches.
On October 6, NOBODY was talking about a Palestinian state.
Now that’s agenda item number 1
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We’re gonna bomb your military base
Israel: oh yea!?? We are gonna explode 1000 pagers of random citizens either vis electronic warfare or planted at the factory etc.
What ******* weirdos
Israel: oh yea!?? We are gonna explode 1000 pagers of random citizens either vis electronic warfare or planted at the factory etc.
What ******* weirdos
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Do you think Kamala will send out a “condolences” tweet for the terror attack in Lebanon today?
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I've heard all the Mossad stories and thought some were exaggerated but this is right up there. This is straight out of a movie.
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More:
Reuters
https://www.reuters.com/world/middl...-pagers-exploded-sources-witnesses-2024-09-17
Hezbollah vows to punish Israel after pager explosions across Lebanon
Lebanese Information Minister Ziad Makary condemned the detonation of the pagers - used by Hezbollah and others in Lebanon to communicate - as an "Israeli aggression". Hezbollah said Israel would receive "its fair punishment" for the blasts.
The Israeli military, which has been engaged in cross-border warfare with Iran-backed Hezbollah since the start of the Gaza war last October, declined to respond to Reuters' questions about the detonations.
A Hezbollah official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the detonation of the pagers was the "biggest security breach" the group had been subjected to in nearly a year of conflict with Israel.
Developments in Lebanon are extremely concerning, especially given the "extremely volatile" context, said U.N. spokesperson Stephane Dujarric, adding that the U.N. deplores any civilian casualties.
Without commenting directly on the explosions in Lebanon, an Israeli military spokesman said the chief of staff, Major General Herzi Halevi, had met with senior officers on Tuesday evening to assess the situation. No policy change was announced but "vigilance must continue to be maintained", he said.
Hezbollah earlier confirmed in a statement the deaths of at least two of its fighters in the explosions and said it was conducting an investigation into their causes.
Hezbollah fighters have been using pagers as a low-tech means to try and avoid Israeli tracking of their locations, two sources familiar with the group's operations told Reuters earlier this year. A pager is a wireless telecommunications device that receives and displays messages.
The pagers were detonated in southern Lebanon, the southern suburbs of Beirut known as Dahiyeh and the eastern Bekaa valley - all Hezbollah strongholds.
Many of those hurt included Hezbollah fighters who are the sons of top officials from the armed group, two security sources told Reuters.
One of the fighters killed was the son of a Hezbollah member of the Lebanese parliament, Ali Ammar, they said.
"This is not a security targeting of one, two or three people. This is a targeting of an entire nation," senior Hezbollah official Hussein Khalil said while paying his condolences for Ammar's son.
Lebanese broadcaster Al Jadeed cited Ammar as saying what happened was an Israeli aggression. "We will deal with the enemy in the language it understands," he added.
Tuesday's blasts added to a hefty price already paid over the past year by Hezbollah, which has lost more than 400 of its fighters in Israeli strikes, including its top commander Fuad Shukr in July. Security sources in Lebanon said two more Hezbollah fighters were killed in an Israeli strike in southern Lebanon on Tuesday.
Iran's ambassador to Lebanon, Mojtaba Amani, suffered a "superficial injury" in Tuesday's pager blasts and is currently under observation in hospital, Iran's semi-official Fars news agency said. Reuters could not immediately confirm the report.
There was no word from the Israeli government on the explosions.
Earlier on Tuesday, Israel's domestic security agency said it had foiled a plot by Lebanese militant group Hezbollah to assassinate a former senior defence official in the coming days.
The Shin Bet agency, which did not name the official, said in a statement it had seized an explosive device attached to a remote detonation system, using a mobile phone and a camera that Hezbollah had planned to operate from Lebanon.
Shin Bet said the attempted attack was similar to a Hezbollah plot foiled in Tel Aviv a year ago, without giving further details.
Hezbollah has said it wants to avoid all-out conflict with Israel but that only an end to the Gaza war will stop the cross-border clashes. Gaza ceasefire efforts remain deadlocked after months of talks mediated by Qatar, Egypt and the United States.
At Mt. Lebanon hospital, a Reuters reporter saw motorcycles rushing to the emergency room, where people with their hands bloodied were screaming in pain.
The head of the Nabatieh public hospital in the south of the country, Hassan Wazni, told Reuters that around 40 wounded people were being treated at his facility. The wounds included injuries to the face, eyes and limbs.
Groups of people huddled at the entrance of buildings to check on people they knew who may have been wounded, the Reuters journalist said.
Regional broadcasters carrying CCTV footage which showed what appeared to be a small handheld device placed next to a grocery store cashier where an individual was paying spontaneously exploding.
Hezbollah fired missiles at Israel immediately after the Oct. 7 attacks by Hamas gunmen on Israel that triggered the Gaza war. Hezbollah and Israel have been exchanging fire constantly ever since, while avoiding a major escalation.
Tens of thousands of people have been displaced from towns and villages on both sides of the border by the hostilities.
On Tuesday, Israel added the safe return of its citizens forced to leave their homes near the border with Lebanon to its formal war goals.
Reuters
https://www.reuters.com/world/middl...-pagers-exploded-sources-witnesses-2024-09-17
Hezbollah vows to punish Israel after pager explosions across Lebanon
- Hezbollah calls it biggest security breach in war with Israel
- Hezbollah fighters are among those killed, the group says
- Pagers are used to try to avoid Israeli detection
- No comment from Israeli military or government
- Iranian ambassador to Lebanon reportedly injured
Lebanese Information Minister Ziad Makary condemned the detonation of the pagers - used by Hezbollah and others in Lebanon to communicate - as an "Israeli aggression". Hezbollah said Israel would receive "its fair punishment" for the blasts.
The Israeli military, which has been engaged in cross-border warfare with Iran-backed Hezbollah since the start of the Gaza war last October, declined to respond to Reuters' questions about the detonations.
A Hezbollah official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the detonation of the pagers was the "biggest security breach" the group had been subjected to in nearly a year of conflict with Israel.
Developments in Lebanon are extremely concerning, especially given the "extremely volatile" context, said U.N. spokesperson Stephane Dujarric, adding that the U.N. deplores any civilian casualties.
Without commenting directly on the explosions in Lebanon, an Israeli military spokesman said the chief of staff, Major General Herzi Halevi, had met with senior officers on Tuesday evening to assess the situation. No policy change was announced but "vigilance must continue to be maintained", he said.
Hezbollah earlier confirmed in a statement the deaths of at least two of its fighters in the explosions and said it was conducting an investigation into their causes.
Hezbollah fighters have been using pagers as a low-tech means to try and avoid Israeli tracking of their locations, two sources familiar with the group's operations told Reuters earlier this year. A pager is a wireless telecommunications device that receives and displays messages.
The pagers were detonated in southern Lebanon, the southern suburbs of Beirut known as Dahiyeh and the eastern Bekaa valley - all Hezbollah strongholds.
MANY INJURED
Lebanese Health Minister Firass Abiad said 2,750 people had been wounded in the explosions, 200 of them critically.Many of those hurt included Hezbollah fighters who are the sons of top officials from the armed group, two security sources told Reuters.
One of the fighters killed was the son of a Hezbollah member of the Lebanese parliament, Ali Ammar, they said.
"This is not a security targeting of one, two or three people. This is a targeting of an entire nation," senior Hezbollah official Hussein Khalil said while paying his condolences for Ammar's son.
Lebanese broadcaster Al Jadeed cited Ammar as saying what happened was an Israeli aggression. "We will deal with the enemy in the language it understands," he added.
Tuesday's blasts added to a hefty price already paid over the past year by Hezbollah, which has lost more than 400 of its fighters in Israeli strikes, including its top commander Fuad Shukr in July. Security sources in Lebanon said two more Hezbollah fighters were killed in an Israeli strike in southern Lebanon on Tuesday.
Iran's ambassador to Lebanon, Mojtaba Amani, suffered a "superficial injury" in Tuesday's pager blasts and is currently under observation in hospital, Iran's semi-official Fars news agency said. Reuters could not immediately confirm the report.
There was no word from the Israeli government on the explosions.
Earlier on Tuesday, Israel's domestic security agency said it had foiled a plot by Lebanese militant group Hezbollah to assassinate a former senior defence official in the coming days.
The Shin Bet agency, which did not name the official, said in a statement it had seized an explosive device attached to a remote detonation system, using a mobile phone and a camera that Hezbollah had planned to operate from Lebanon.
Shin Bet said the attempted attack was similar to a Hezbollah plot foiled in Tel Aviv a year ago, without giving further details.
Hezbollah has said it wants to avoid all-out conflict with Israel but that only an end to the Gaza war will stop the cross-border clashes. Gaza ceasefire efforts remain deadlocked after months of talks mediated by Qatar, Egypt and the United States.
SCREAMING IN PAIN
After Tuesday's blasts, a Reuters journalist saw ambulances rushing through the southern suburbs of the capital Beirut, a Hezbollah stronghold, amid widespread panic. A security source said that devices were also exploding in the south of Lebanon.At Mt. Lebanon hospital, a Reuters reporter saw motorcycles rushing to the emergency room, where people with their hands bloodied were screaming in pain.
The head of the Nabatieh public hospital in the south of the country, Hassan Wazni, told Reuters that around 40 wounded people were being treated at his facility. The wounds included injuries to the face, eyes and limbs.
Groups of people huddled at the entrance of buildings to check on people they knew who may have been wounded, the Reuters journalist said.
Regional broadcasters carrying CCTV footage which showed what appeared to be a small handheld device placed next to a grocery store cashier where an individual was paying spontaneously exploding.
Hezbollah fired missiles at Israel immediately after the Oct. 7 attacks by Hamas gunmen on Israel that triggered the Gaza war. Hezbollah and Israel have been exchanging fire constantly ever since, while avoiding a major escalation.
Tens of thousands of people have been displaced from towns and villages on both sides of the border by the hostilities.
On Tuesday, Israel added the safe return of its citizens forced to leave their homes near the border with Lebanon to its formal war goals.
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CNN has 20 posts on this
https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/lebanon-pagers-attack-hezbollah/index.html
One excerpt:
Experts have shared two competing theories as to how hundreds of pagers could have exploded simultaneously. One theory is that there was a cybersecurity breach, causing the pagers’ lithium batteries to overheat and detonate. Another is that this was a “supply chain attack,” where the pagers were tampered with during the manufacturing and shipping process.
David Kennedy, a former US National Security Agency intelligence analyst, told CNN that the explosions seen in videos shared online appear to be “too large for this to be a remote and direct hack that would overload the pager and cause a lithium battery explosion.”
Kennedy said he found the second theory to be more plausible.
“It’s more likely that Israel had human operatives… in Hezbollah… The pagers would have been implanted with explosives and likely only to detonate when a certain message was received,” he said.
“The complexity needed to pull this off is incredible. It would have required many different intelligence components and execution. Human intelligence (HUMINT) would be the main method used to pull this off, along with intercepting the supply chain in order to make modifications to the pagers,” he added.
https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/lebanon-pagers-attack-hezbollah/index.html
One excerpt:
How was this pulled off? Here are the theories
From CNN's Christian EdwardsExperts have shared two competing theories as to how hundreds of pagers could have exploded simultaneously. One theory is that there was a cybersecurity breach, causing the pagers’ lithium batteries to overheat and detonate. Another is that this was a “supply chain attack,” where the pagers were tampered with during the manufacturing and shipping process.
David Kennedy, a former US National Security Agency intelligence analyst, told CNN that the explosions seen in videos shared online appear to be “too large for this to be a remote and direct hack that would overload the pager and cause a lithium battery explosion.”
Kennedy said he found the second theory to be more plausible.
“It’s more likely that Israel had human operatives… in Hezbollah… The pagers would have been implanted with explosives and likely only to detonate when a certain message was received,” he said.
“The complexity needed to pull this off is incredible. It would have required many different intelligence components and execution. Human intelligence (HUMINT) would be the main method used to pull this off, along with intercepting the supply chain in order to make modifications to the pagers,” he added.
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Posting cnn and Reuters articles
YUCK
YUCK
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It was a terrorist attack
Lots of innocent peoples pagers blew up.
Thats the story.
Lots of innocent peoples pagers blew up.
Thats the story.
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Israel ****** up
They united a very divided lebonan
They united a very divided lebonan
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