Israel declares War - Destruction of Gaza / Growing conflict in Middle East

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wow. Powerful speech.

There is ZERO ZERO chance they would have allowed that even if they read it.

The donors don’t even want the word “Palestinian” mentioned.

Donors run America. Everyone picking teams like they matter. It’s all a big joke

 

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I don’t believe anything anymore

“Im gonna do something terrible

Let me wrap my Palestinian flag round my waist to show the cameras I’m a pro-Palestinian”

 

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God bless the Grayzone

 

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Lol




Lol

But the 70,000 tons of bombs dropped on Gaza is just FINE AND DANDY for the environment

 

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“Ok guys. I think we have provoked them enough. They will (hopefully) attack us so we can play victim some more”


IsraHell got tired of waiting I guess

 

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It’s on.

 

[DripNick]

I don’t believe anything anymore

“Im gonna do something terrible

Let me wrap my Palestinian flag round my waist to show the cameras I’m a pro-Palestinian”

The devil works hard but mossad and israel work harder

 

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Mom died 2 months ago too.

Sick society.

200+ innocent Palestinians were butchered to rescue this POW

 

[DripNick]

Sick society.

Truly deranged evil people.

Remind me of the fun-filled days and birthday parties high ranking nazi officers and their families were having while living right next door to ******* Auschwitz, as pictured in The Zone of Interest

 

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War of information

Keep being distracted by the D vs R fight and the meme wars. Go ahead.

 

[me love nutella]

I would add that abstaining from voting is just privileged grandstanding. Particularly in a swing state.
Instead of voting for or against a candidate/party, abstainers are just voting against their own self-interests.

I don't get how it is privileged when we are forced with choices that don't serve the masses but only the donors, corporations, and politicians, which also are exploiting, killing and slaughtering people at home and abroad.

Holding your vote ransom is the only logical move. Votes should be earned, politicians aren't entitled to them.!!! If only the Dems functioned as an actual party, then you'd see possibility of primary protest votes on a bigger scale. For example, imagine there was a voter coalition across swing states deciding to vote only if the political party commits to withdrawing support for Israel.

Dems are getting so caught up in shaming 3rd party voters that they lose sight of the real, although small, political power they could potentially have through voting, much less things outside of voting.

 

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I don't get how it is privileged when we are forced with choices that don't serve the masses but only the donors, corporations, and politicians, which also are exploiting, killing and slaughtering people at home and abroad.

Holding your vote ransom is the only logical move. Votes should be earned, politicians aren't entitled to them.!!! If only the Dems functioned as an actual party, then you'd see possibility of primary protest votes on a bigger scale. For example, imagine there was a voter coalition across swing states deciding to vote only if the political party commits to withdrawing support for Israel.

Dems are getting so caught up in shaming 3rd party voters that they lose sight of the real, although small, political power they could potentially have through voting, much less things outside of voting.

Vote Harris bc Trump is a fascist (and by logic, Harris isn’t?)
Dems made they call here. Help us and we won’t force a sale

 

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DripNick got banned?

 

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[gry60]

I don't get how it is privileged when we are forced with choices that don't serve the masses but only the donors, corporations, and politicians, which also are exploiting, killing and slaughtering people at home and abroad.

Holding your vote ransom is the only logical move. Votes should be earned, politicians aren't entitled to them.!!! If only the Dems functioned as an actual party, then you'd see possibility of primary protest votes on a bigger scale. For example, imagine there was a voter coalition across swing states deciding to vote only if the political party commits to withdrawing support for Israel.

Dems are getting so caught up in shaming 3rd party voters that they lose sight of the real, although small, political power they could potentially have through voting, much less things outside of voting.

This is not a logical position at all, and it is indicative of the common misunderstanding that plagues discussions about American politics. The Democratic and Republican parties are political coalitions. Traditional political parties, as seen in other democratic systems, have narrower platforms that allows them to be uncompromising and still have legislative representation. In the US, the electoral system forces all these would-be parties to run under a much larger umbrella (Dem or Rep) in order to avoid the post-election process of forming a legislative majority. This means that voters can't really be single-issue voters; they have to make a comprehensive assessment of the coalition platform, which is less narrow and more compromising than what a single party platform would be, and pick which set of policies they're willing to live under. In some states, you can't even vote in either primaries if you're not a registered Dem/Rep voter.

The bottom line is, our electoral system doesn't allow the withholding of the vote to be an effective method to push the coalition in one direction (unless the voting bloc threatening to not vote is influential enough) because Dem/Rep coalitions are flexible enough to modify their platform in order to appeal to other voters.

In addition, asking left-leaning Americans to disregard the danger of another Trump administration because Biden is not jumping as high as pro-Palestinians want is a bit rich. I'm sitting here, watching the right wanting to impose their religious views on society; I'm watching judges use their power to protect the absurdly rich; I'm watching the right's attempt to dismantle the administrative state and take away avenues of opportunity from minority groups. Why should I sit this election out because of what's happening in the Middle East? Why should the Middle East be more important to me than all this other stuff that will directly impact my life and the lives of those I care about?