Jalen Rose on Chris Webber: ' He ‘is delusional and still in denial'

[seasoned vet]

i grew up idolizing these guys, i hate to see this

i had no idea these cats were even into it

via: LarryBrownSports

Jalen Rose responds to Chris Webber: He ‘is delusional and still in denial’

Jalen Rose MichiganJalen Rose heard all about Chris Webber’s passive-aggressive shots at him over the “Fab Five” documentary and responded Wednesday.

Earlier in the day, Webber, now an analyst for Turner Sports, joined “The Dan Patrick Show” and said he “wasn’t too thrilled” with the film, which was put together largely by Rose and the other three members of the Fab Five, Juwan Howard, Jimmy King and Ray Jackson. Webber said he was only given a call about participating in the film about a week before they were set to wrap. King disputed this claim, and so does Rose.

Webber also took some not-so-subtle shots at Rose by saying the former point guard was “Hollywood” and wanted to make the film all about himself.

Later on Wednesday, Rose responded to Webber’s interview with some comments to Larry Brown Sports.

“One dude traveled then called timeout. One dude lied to grand jury and hasn’t apologized. One dude tried to circumvent the documentary to HBO. One dude ignored multiple requests from everyone involved after agreeing to participate. One dude played like (President) Obama and sat in a suite during Michigan’s recent title game. One dude slandered Ed Martin after all he did for him and his family. One dude is not in contact with the other four (which is all good). One dude has been doing a rebuttal doc for four years. One dude clearly is delusional and still in denial,” Rose said of Webber in messages to Larry Brown Sports.

“Congrats on your amazing success! Respect had no price. Man up.”

Rose has spoken sternly of Webber in the past and has asked him to finally apologize to Michigan for taking money from booster Ed Martin and lying to the grand jury about it. If Webber does apologize, it would go a long way towards ironing out problems he has had with the school and his teammates since the whole scandal broke over 12 years ago.

^^^ that article was in response to this \/\/\/

Chris Webber seems upset with way Jalen Rose did ‘Fab Five’ documentary

Jalen Rose Chris WebberThe most notable player from Michigan’s heralded “Fab Five” is not too happy with the “30 for 30″ documentary that told the group’s story.

Chris Webber did an interview with “The Dan Patrick Show” Wednesday and talked about the film, which was put together by Fab Five member Jalen Rose, who is now an analyst for ESPN. The subject came up in the interview when Webber said he actually has embraced his timeout blunder rather than be embarrassed by it.

Webber notably did not participate in the documentary, and he says that is because he was insulted that they only approached him at the last minute when they were almost done filming.

“The reason why I didn’t do the documentary is because I got a call. There were negotiations going on in different places. I guess someone promised that I could be in the doc. Because they knew I probably wouldn’t, they called and said, ‘hey, we want you to be in the doc.’ I said, ‘heck yeah I’ll be in the doc. What’s going on?’ He says, ‘we’re wrapping up next week, we need to get you.’ I’m like, I’m not saying I was John Lennon, but my story’s pretty big in there.”

Webber says he has been working on a book for five years that will tell his story and said, “I hope that I can give full context to my story.

“I wasn’t too thrilled with [the documentary]. I’m a big fan of 30 for 30s. I can’t complain or be upset about it.”

Though Webber says he was only approached a week before filming wrapped, fellow Fab Five member Jimmy King disputes Webber’s recollection of events.

“That’s a flat-out lie,” King said. “There is no way we would have done this production — I’m going to tell you exactly how it went down. When it was proposed, it was sent out over email to all of us.”

The other members of the group were in the documentary, so maybe there is something to what King says.

Patrick came out and straight up asked C-Webb whether he liked the documentary.

“I love the guys, but I just think there was so much missed there,” Webber said. “I think it was OK, except … I think it was … it looked like … it looked like, you know, what happens, a lot of people, after they retire or when they’re looking for a job or when they want to be relevant, they go back in time and kind of make sure their importance is really known.

“My thing is it’s always been about us five. So when one guy has a million highlights of himself, as if he was the leading scorer and all the stories are like embellished, it’s just a little hard for me. But I think it was entertaining, there was a lot of truth in it. I think it was definitely good, it was OK. Yeah, it was good.”

Webber just seems to be upset that someone else (ahem, Rose) took the liberty of making a film about the group. Webber talked about a code they had with the Fab Five and seems to feel it was broken.

“I made an agreement when I joined the Fab Five not to be above the group. There was a chance to be above the group. I have stated consistently as a member nobody is above another. It’s just disheartening when you pay attention to those rules for 20-plus years and somebody wants to be ‘Hollywood’ and make it about them,” Webber told Patrick, seemingly taking a shot at Rose.

“To hear people now … just to be famous. No one ever loved the Fab Five. So why would you use us to tell stories to get that fake love now? Our whole heart was in not being loved. … I was disheartened by whatever someone is trying to create our legacy. Don’t try to go back and act like you were smart and a martyr, don’t do that. Just tell the story and let people have fun.”

The friction between Rose and Webber is palpable. Rose discussed it two years ago and said he thinks it’s due to the timeout and Webber’s punishment for the scandal. Rose says Webber disassociated himself with the group ever since then. He also said last year that he wanted Webber to apologize to the school.

It’s clear that the two men have different agendas despite being brothers who had great accomplishments together at Michigan. Webber is more of an outsider who still has yet to publish his book, while Rose is a go-getter who got most of the group together and made a film about them that told their story. Webber should stop treating himself like an outsider and work on ingratiating himself with the group, that way his story and opinions would be included.

 

[6 Rings G.O.A.T.]

 

[mr jordan04]

Jalen

 

[ill steelo]

God damn @ that ether from Jalen

 

[kingfoamnyc]

Jalen just washed this _ don't eem want to hear him commentate another game again

 

[shoeking2102]

Jalen Rose blocked me on twitter for no reason. Didn't even mention his handle 

 

[mr marcus]

Chris did Ed name dirty 

 

[mr j 858]

Jalen & CWebb just need to get into a room together and man up and workout whatever issues they still have.

 

[Brownstone]

Jalen screams estrogen to me....Dude was trash in the league and always thought he had something to prove.....I always found it funny that Howard was the one who got rings, on the bench of course, but he got em.

 

[Sonny Corinthos]

Jalen screams estrogen to me....Dude was trash in the league and always thought he had something to prove.....I always found it funny that Howard was the one who got rings, on the bench of course, but he got em.

How was he trash ?

Jalen almost averaged 15 points for his career, after getting off to a slow start .

 

[SneakerProSr.]

I just want these brothers

Jalen screams estrogen to me....Dude was trash in the league and always thought he had something to prove.....I always found it funny that Howard was the one who got rings, on the bench of course, but he got em.

How was he trash ?

Jalen almost averaged 15 points for his career, after getting off to a slow start .

@ Jalen being trash in the league.

This whole beef kills me. Being from Michigan these dudes meant a lot to me when I was a kid.

Chris seems jealous of Jalen making it in the media.

I've watched the Fab Five more than I can count and Jalen isn't presented as the star in anyway shape or form.

Even after all this Jalen still goes out of his way to say he loves Chris and never spoke on Chris until Chris slandered him.

 

[mr marcus]

I def think Chris is kinda salty about Jalen media success

 

[doublemesh96]

Man **** jalen rose ***** *** ***** he is Hollywood

 

[mr marcus]

JRLA 

 

[8pm at msg]

I still think Jalen is in the wrong for constantly feeling the need to call him out publicly.

 

[cashbanks]

Chris mad because he sucks at calling games and Jalen's post ball career is booming

 

[al3xis]

'One dude' is responsible for the the Fab 5 ever being a thing.

I remember 93-94 without him and nobody, nobody could have have a **** about the other 4.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

I wish they wasn't beefing in the public like this. Seems like something that should be handled behind the scenes. Both are having successful careers after basketball.

 

[jaysfiend23]

Seems to me C Webb is salty of jalen

 

[SneakerProSr.]

Multiple media members and other members of the Fab Five say Chris full of ****.

Dude is delusional

 

[User 15002]

Chris says he was never above the group. He may never voice that, but he most certainly does want to be above the group. I don't have an issue with it. He was the crown jewel of that class. Fab five would not have gotten the press they did w/o him. He was the one dunking on AA players and was a beast.

He just needs to come out and say what he's been thinking. "I was the boss. Treat me like it."

 

[jjs07]

Is it possible that both guys are jealous of one another?

 

[seasoned vet]

Chris being jealous to me is a lazy answer

these guys are like brothers
and thats too petty

i think Chris didnt want to talk publicly about what happened
and if he decided to, he wanted the story to be told by him or on his terms only

a few words come to mind to descibe that
jealousy isnt one of them

i wil say that after watching the doc
Jimmy King came off a little bitter

it seemd like Jimmy felt that if they'd have gotten one of those championships they all would have been in better situations in the NBA.

one has to wonder if thats true

 

[SneakerProSr.]

Real talk this is all about Ed Martin.

Chris lied about it to try to protect his image and the school. It backfired and he feels some type of way about it.

Jalen is Jalen, Jalen came from nothing and never gave two ***** about the NCAA so his mentality was who cares if you took money don't lie on a dead man that helped you.

I understand it to an extent I just want it over with

 

[seasoned vet]

Real talk this is all about Ed Martin.

Chris lied about it to try to protect his image and the school. It backfired and he feels some type of way about it.

Jalen is Jalen, Jalen came from nothing and never gave two ***** about the NCAA so his mentality was who cares if you took money don't lie on a dead man that helped you.

I understand it to an extent I just want it over with

what did Ed Martin allegedly do that Chris lied about?

that reporter that kinda shadowed Chris in those years said if his family was getting any money he never seen evidence of it

ive never looked into it myself tho