Jeffrey Epstein commits suicide in Manhattan jail

So in a nutshell Both high ranking republican & democratic officials have very questionable ties to this Epstein dude... who from all i have read has been relative non discreet with his pedophilia & sex trafficking of children.

My thing is while Pizzagate obviously wasn't true in regards to the specific meeting spots and it's target of specifically the DMC. the overlaying message of USA politicians being involved in a large spread sex ring was dismissed as a conspiracy back then... This Epstein case leans heavily on implicating just that.

So in all honesty was the pizza gate conspiracy really that farfetched? the details were off but the overarching theme turned out to be true & even broader than speculated.

Again...that’s how conspiracy theories work. You take half thuth’s...and spin em. That’s what happened with Pizza Gate. The Epstein case and his ties was known years before Pizza Gate. So it’s easy to make a child sex trafficking ring the foundation of a conspiracy. Because it’s based in Some reality. Then, you have politicians with history of being sexual deviants...that in itself isn’t far off, and has never been far off.

And For one...the PizzaGate theory was promoted at the highest levels (including trump and his transition etc and allies). So it wasn’t obvious to millions (as it should’ve been)

And nobody dismissed USA politicians being involved in shady sex related crimes. Shoot, one goes down damn near every year :lol. And It’s been KNOWN that Epstein had ties to high ranking political people....not only across the US political isle...but globally.
 
two things,

I'm not simply referencing NT when i say these things.... the general consensus in the public in regards to the Clinton's on this... is two sides mulling over Clinton conspiracies & whether or not they could have this Epstein dude killed. speculation either way

what isn't really being discussed is the fact that Clinton's name was on a ledger on Epstein's plane more than a dozen times... and has visited his ****ing island several times, witnesses from older cases have literally stated that Bill was there..... and somehow this isn't being heavily discussed or question on a national level?

Instead i've seen Trump's one quote of Epstein being a fun guy to hang out with, plastered on every single article. Now Trump is absolutely capable of being involved with this nasty **** with out a doubt. but the way clinton's involvement & friendship with Epstein is being downplayed in the public is WILD.

Also i never really went into detail about pizzagate, but wasn't the overall point of it that global elites were running a child sex ring?? are we not here discussing the FACT that a multibillionaire who flew many global elite out to his private island, on his private plane..... is now being charged for being a well known pedo who used that island to run a child sex ring?

nothing about that is laughable
If someone wants to know of Bill Clinton's connection to Epstein, literally all they have to do is a bit of reading. It's not hard.
BuT ThE MeDiA is no more than an excuse for people to remain wilfully ignorant. Not directed at you but just a general observation.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/09/...tion=click&module=RelatedLinks&pgtype=Article July 9
Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein: How Are They Connected?

https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffr...inton-white-house-multiple-times-in-early-90s July 25
Jeffrey Epstein Visited Clinton White House Multiple Times in Early ’90s

https://www.foxnews.com/us/flight-l...offenders-jet-much-more-than-previously-known May 13 2016
Flight logs show Bill Clinton flew on sex offender's jet much more than previously known
Former President Bill Clinton was a much more frequent flyer on a registered sex offender’s infamous jet than previously reported, with flight logs showing the former president taking at least 26 trips aboard the “Lolita Express” -- even apparently ditching his Secret Service detail for at least five of the flights, according to records obtained by FoxNews.com.

https://www.businessinsider.com/rep...l-clinton-2019-7?international=true&r=US&IR=T
Jeffrey Epstein reportedly visited the White House several times while Bill Clinton was president


Etc. etc.
 
If someone wants to know of Bill Clinton's connection to Epstein, literally all they have to do is a bit of reading. It's not hard.
BuT ThE MeDiA is no more than an excuse for people to remain wilfully ignorant. Not directed at you but just a general observation.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/09/...tion=click&module=RelatedLinks&pgtype=Article July 9
Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein: How Are They Connected?

https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffr...inton-white-house-multiple-times-in-early-90s July 25
Jeffrey Epstein Visited Clinton White House Multiple Times in Early ’90s

https://www.foxnews.com/us/flight-l...offenders-jet-much-more-than-previously-known May 13 2016
Flight logs show Bill Clinton flew on sex offender's jet much more than previously known
Former President Bill Clinton was a much more frequent flyer on a registered sex offender’s infamous jet than previously reported, with flight logs showing the former president taking at least 26 trips aboard the “Lolita Express” -- even apparently ditching his Secret Service detail for at least five of the flights, according to records obtained by FoxNews.com.

https://www.businessinsider.com/rep...l-clinton-2019-7?international=true&r=US&IR=T
Jeffrey Epstein reportedly visited the White House several times while Bill Clinton was president


Etc. etc.

this mixed in with Clinton's reps blatantly lying abouth their relationship should def draw more interest but Trump is the easier target. Two different sides of the political spectrum but morally they're a perfect match.
 
Again...that’s how conspiracy theories work. You take half thuth’s...and spin em. That’s what happened with Pizza Gate. The Epstein case and his ties was known years before Pizza Gate. So it’s easy to make a child sex trafficking ring the foundation of a conspiracy. Because it’s based in Some reality. Then, you have politicians with history of being sexual deviants...that in itself isn’t far off, and has never been far off.

And For one...the PizzaGate theory was promoted at the highest levels (including trump and his transition etc and allies). So it wasn’t obvious to millions (as it should’ve been)

And nobody dismissed USA politicians being involved in shady sex related crimes. Shoot, one goes down damn near every year :lol:. And It’s been KNOWN that Epstein had ties to high ranking political people....not only across the US political isle...but globally.

I hear you and most reasonable people would easily see this also.

However some people in society are so caught up in playing the Democrat vs Republican game that the child sex ring became more of a backstory to, people highlighting how the rightwing is spreading conspiracy or how Trump is lying.

again i'm not saying you or even people in this thread have dismissed the possibility of these elite guys being heavily involved in a trafficking ring, but i have def seen that sentiment when directly speaking to that portion of the pizzagate scandal. Many people out there wholeheartedly believe that government officials wouldn't be able to get away with such a thing and not be exposed & jailed.
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...9ac934-bdd9-11e9-b873-63ace636af08_story.html

An autopsy found that financier Jeffrey Epstein suffered multiple breaks in his neck bones, according to two people familiar with the findings, deepening the mystery about the circumstances around his death.

Among the bones broken in Epstein’s neck was the hyoid bone, which in men is near the Adam’s apple. Such breaks can occur in those who hang themselves, particularly if they are older, according to forensics experts and studies on the subject. But they are more common in victims of homicide by strangulation, the experts said.

Someone posted it a few pages back, but there was an interview with an inmate who said the sheets given to those on suicide watch are paper thin and in no way can hold the human body with out tearing. This is definitely a homicide in my eyes.
 
Someone posted it a few pages back, but there was an interview with an inmate who said the sheets given to those on suicide watch are paper thin and in no way can hold the human body with out tearing. This is definitely a homicide in my eyes.

Agreed. Man's on suicide watch and they supplying him with some high quality linen from Burj Al Arab. :smh::smh::smh:
 
Look, the more of these white privilege types commit suicide? The better. Let it act like a virus, with all of them being afraid that they've caught the bug, with a whole lot to lose. Suicide? Murder? Who cares?! Allow those sheets continue to wrap around ALL of their necks.
 
https://nypost.com/2019/08/14/epste...-of-bill-clinton-in-dress-heels-in-townhouse/

Guess you guys are going to get real creative and find new ways to point the finger at Trump
how about both of them have a relationship with this guy?
its not a one or the other type of thing. that's surface level thinking.
these guys work in the same circles and behind the scenes a lot probably goes on that we aren't privy too. i'm sure many work together and put on a front for the ppl. its honestly typical.
 
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" These people will believe anything. They swear we hate each other's guts. These people probably think wrestling is real too. People love feeling like they're on teams."
 
https://www.thedailybeast.com/ghisl...world-is-jeffrey-epsteins-girlfriend?ref=home
Where in the World Is Ghislaine Maxwell?
As the British socialite’s alleged boyfriend denies she’s holed up at his Massachusetts home, a friend tells The Daily Beast that Ghislaine Maxwell is lying low in France.
Where in the world is Ghislaine Maxwell?

Police are reportedly scrambling to find the 57-year-old British socialite—and accused madam of deceased sex offender Jeffrey Epstein—as she faces a new lawsuit from one victim who alleges Maxwell gave “organizational support to Epstein’s sex-trafficking ring” and procured “underage girls for Epstein’s sexual pleasure.”

Since Epstein’s apparent jail-cell suicide on Saturday, the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York said their sex-trafficking and conspiracy probe into the multimillionaire’s orbit is ongoing. (In a July court filing, prosecutors said they were investigating “uncharged individuals” in Epstein’s case.)

Attorney General William Barr has vowed that authorities are coming for Epstein’s alleged accomplices. “Let me assure you that case will continue on against anyone who was complicit with Epstein," Barr said Monday. “Any co-conspirators should not rest easy. Victims deserve justice and will get it.”
Maxwell hasn’t been charged with any crimes in connection to Epstein. And for years, she has denied any wrongdoing, in particular after accuser Virginia Roberts Giuffre claimed that Maxwell and Epstein groomed her for sex with Britain’s Prince Andrew. (Buckingham Palace and Andrew also deny that anything improper happened.)

But last Friday, a tranche of unsealed documents in a defamation lawsuit filed by Giuffre spelled out how Maxwell allegedly drove around seeking teen “masseuses” for Epstein to abuse, and how she allegedly participated in the sexual abuse herself and kept a “sex slave” of her own.

David Boies, a lawyer for Giuffre and other Epstein victims, said Maxwell should be prosecutors’ next logical focus after Epstein’s demise.

“Maxwell is not gonna be able to hide,” Boies told The Daily Beast. “There’s no place in the civilized world where she can go and not be found. And unlike Epstein, she does not have the massive resources that would be required to carve out a new life in some obscure place where she cannot be extradited from.”

“I think it’s interesting to speculate as to where she is. I also think the more important issue is: where do the prosecutors stand in bringing a case and is she cooperating?”

It’s unclear if Maxwell has spoken to authorities after Epstein’s arrest. Multiple lawyers of Maxwell’s didn’t return messages seeking comment.

Friends of Maxwell tell The Daily Beast that she is lying low in France, where she has been known to stay at Epstein’s residence on Paris’s exclusive Avenue Foch near the Arc de Triomphe. “She isn’t responding to even her closest friends’ calls,” said one person who had tried reaching her in recent weeks.

Epstein purchased multiple properties within a building at 22 Avenue Foch for about 1.5 million euros in 2002, and officials in France have called for a police probe into his activities there.
 
this mixed in with Clinton's reps blatantly lying abouth their relationship should def draw more interest but Trump is the easier target. Two different sides of the political spectrum but morally they're a perfect match.
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" These people will believe anything. They swear we hate each other's guts. These people probably think wrestling is real too. People love feeling like they're on teams."

Folks, you need to learn the difference between people and the policies they support. Trying to equivocate political spectacle to policies is exactly what is driving the general apathy in the US, especially among those who do not identify with the Right (Right wing voters understand this distinction very well). My comment is tangential to the topic of this thread, but relevant because people are using the eccentricities of political figures to say "both parties are the same." That's wrong.
 
This is basically True Detective (ring) and Ray Donovan (homicide that is portrayed as a suicide) combined into one.
 
People have been raping children, drinking their blood and performing satanic rituals since the dawn of time. It happened then, now, and will continue on. It's the darkside of mankind. Only the naive believe time changes behavior. Maybe on an individual, but the depravity on man persists as long as man does. There is nothing new under the sun.
 
EXCLUSIVE: Jeffrey Epstein shipped $100K cement truck to 'Pedophile Island' three weeks before damning expose was released, paying for machine up front so it would arrive quicker, as experts say he could have 'literally covered up evidence

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...nt-truck-Pedophile-Island-cover-evidence.html

  • Jeffrey Epstein shipped a $50k cement truck to his private Caribbean island Little St. James on November 7 last year, DailyMailTV can exclusively reveal
  • Epstein sent the machine with an Express Bill Of Lading, an unusual and expensive way of shipping an item so that it arrives quickly
  • The 66-year-old, who died by apparent suicide on Saturday, was in such a hurry that he paid for the machine up front so it would arrive sooner
  • Three weeks later the Miami Herald published its expose on Epstein on November 28, which eventually led to Epstein being arrested in July
  • Shipping experts told DailyMailTV that the possibility that it was 'used to literally cover up evidence cannot be discounted'
  • Other items sent to Epstein was a tile and carpet extractor that weighed 191 lbs and was sent to his New York home from the US Virgin Islands on March 11
  • Epstein also had an industrial shredder sent to his island in 2008 shortly after reaching a controversial non prosecution agreement in Florida

 
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