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doesn't matter he brought up eloh like jordan didnt do eloh team in
Jordan his Airness, says he can score 100 points in NBA today.
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Some of you guys are showing your age, or delusional... Jordan could do whatever he wanted on the basketball court, Kobes skill + Lebrons athleticism...
man could have scored 100, and those who doubted him would have done it the next game as well! and the 90-99 team would beatl the 2000-2009 team 7 outta 10..
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Some of you guys are showing your age, or delusional... Jordan could do whatever he wanted on the basketball court, Kobes skill + Lebrons athleticism...
man could have scored 100, and those who doubted him would have done it the next game as well! and the 90-99 team would beatl the 2000-2009 team 7 outta 10..
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this post just reeks of slurp slurp and is a discredit to hakeem, clyde, and shaq.
1. stockton, barkley, malone, and ewing never got rings, and in the case of stockton, barkley, and malone those three all played in the western conference and they all played jordan in the finals 1993, 1997, and 1998 so jordan being retired or semiretired had nothing to do with that. in paytons case he didn't get his ring til 8 years after mike retired and he was past his prime
2. with hakeem and clyde the bottom line is they won 2 titles and i could care less if jordan was retired 1 year and semi retired the next, there's no way in hell the bulls win the title every year straight from 1991-1998. that's 32 consecutive playoff series right there and playing from november into deep june every single year 8 seasons straight. also jordan and pippen played in the 1992 olympics and pippen played in the 1996 olympics so add that to the fatigue factor. also the last year of each 3 peat is when they got challenged the hardest, teams were being built to beat them and getting close to doing so because they had a target on their back. they possibly win 4 straight, lose in 95 then win another 2 or whatever but no way do they win 8 straight. That wasn't the 1960's where the celtics had way less playoff rounds and an easier route to the finals every year. The way the playoffs are setup now, I could never see a team win more then 4 titles in a row and it's gonna be tough even for another team to 3 peat at that.
3. what does kobe getting punked by chris childs and reggie have to do with jordan scoring 100 points? if mike made it his focus to score 100 he probably could if they were blowing the other team out and he got hot but it most likely would be against a crappy team with no defense.
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this post just reeks of slurp slurp and is a discredit to hakeem, clyde, and shaq.
1. stockton, barkley, malone, and ewing never got rings, and in the case of stockton, barkley, and malone those three all played in the western conference and they all played jordan in the finals 1993, 1997, and 1998 so jordan being retired or semiretired had nothing to do with that. in paytons case he didn't get his ring til 8 years after mike retired and he was past his prime
2. with hakeem and clyde the bottom line is they won 2 titles and i could care less if jordan was retired 1 year and semi retired the next, there's no way in hell the bulls win the title every year straight from 1991-1998. that's 32 consecutive playoff series right there and playing from november into deep june every single year 8 seasons straight. also jordan and pippen played in the 1992 olympics and pippen played in the 1996 olympics so add that to the fatigue factor. also the last year of each 3 peat is when they got challenged the hardest, teams were being built to beat them and getting close to doing so because they had a target on their back. they possibly win 4 straight, lose in 95 then win another 2 or whatever but no way do they win 8 straight. That wasn't the 1960's where the celtics had way less playoff rounds and an easier route to the finals every year. The way the playoffs are setup now, I could never see a team win more then 4 titles in a row and it's gonna be tough even for another team to 3 peat at that.
3. what does kobe getting punked by chris childs and reggie have to do with jordan scoring 100 points? if mike made it his focus to score 100 he probably could if they were blowing the other team out and he got hot but it most likely would be against a crappy team with no defense.
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A lot of ya'll are just plain simple minded...
... Jordan would NOT score 100 points.
Kornheiser brought up a couple good points on PTI:
1. Jordan didn't shoot threes like Kobe does, and in order for a guard to put up that many points, he'd have to go off from out there. It just wasn't his style. Kobe hit 7 threes in his 81 point game.
2. Also, a guard like Jordan isn't going to get anything easy around the rim, such as put backs off of misses, which is what a guy like Wilt could do all night long
And then, even though defense is softer, you can still zone up and double team him and make everyone else beat you. No team is going to just let someone score 100.
PERIOD. Some of ya'll are just plain irrational... talking bout 25 a quarter is easy.... it's 100 WHOLE points... ya'll slay me
... as easy as ya'll make 100 sound, why hasn't kobe repeated 81 already? Why hasn't lebron/wade dropped 80 (sometimey %%% jumpers that's why)? Why didn't T-Mac do it on them empty %%% Magic rosters... it's just 80. THAT'S why MJ ain't scoring 100 cuz it's actually *NOT* easy. @*%$ outta here mike. He didn't even score 70 (like 70 is easy). Ya'll are a trip. The only other person in our time that could have almost put up 100 was Shaq, but he'd never have hit the necessary free throws (so he never even ALMOST did it). Man, you gotta have a TON of offensive rebounds, A TON of HIGH PERCENTAGE SHOTS around the rim, and 2 tons of free throws to put up 100 points. None of that fade away or dribble drive %*** is gonna get you passed 85 (or 69 apparently, if you ain't got a three ball).. too many misses...too much energy expended.
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A lot of ya'll are just plain simple minded...
... Jordan would NOT score 100 points.
Kornheiser brought up a couple good points on PTI:
1. Jordan didn't shoot threes like Kobe does, and in order for a guard to put up that many points, he'd have to go off from out there. It just wasn't his style. Kobe hit 7 threes in his 81 point game.
2. Also, a guard like Jordan isn't going to get anything easy around the rim, such as put backs off of misses, which is what a guy like Wilt could do all night long
And then, even though defense is softer, you can still zone up and double team him and make everyone else beat you. No team is going to just let someone score 100.
PERIOD. Some of ya'll are just plain irrational... talking bout 25 a quarter is easy.... it's 100 WHOLE points... ya'll slay me... as easy as ya'll make 100 sound, why hasn't kobe repeated 81 already? Why hasn't lebron/wade dropped 80 (sometimey %%% jumpers that's why)? Why didn't T-Mac do it on them empty %%% Magic rosters... it's just 80. THAT'S why MJ ain't scoring 100 cuz it's actually *NOT* easy. @*%$ outta here mike. He didn't even score 70 (like 70 is easy). Ya'll are a trip. The only other person in our time that could have almost put up 100 was Shaq, but he'd never have hit the necessary free throws (so he never even ALMOST did it). Man, you gotta have a TON of offensive rebounds, A TON of HIGH PERCENTAGE SHOTS around the rim, and 2 tons of free throws to put up 100 points. None of that fade away or dribble drive %*** is gonna get you passed 85 (or 69 apparently, if you ain't got a three ball).. too many misses...too much energy expended.
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slurp slurp?
i hated jordan when he actually played, but i was smart enough to respect the hell out of the dude
ummm.. what of what i said wasn't true?
and to address your 3 points:
1) how exactly does this discredit my point? are those guys not all time great players who were in their primes during the bulls reign?
2) we have no clue what would have happened.. but we do know is that when jordan was there HE WON.. if you are going speculate, it is easier to speculate in the other direction.. jordan has the highest single season scoring average for the past 30 years (37 in 86-87).. he was able to do some amazing things when you were able to be more physical as a defender.. why should we not believe he would be able to do more without the ability to be as physical on the defensive end?
3) my point was that what jordan had to deal with with those knicks, pistons and heat teams physically and mentally.. and still came out on top.. if dude said he would do something he would
kobe has notoriously shut it down on his teams on NUMEROUS occasions.. hell some of yall kobe/lakers homers really need stop having a selective memory when it comes to these things.. and gasol deserves just as much credit for the lakers recent success as kobe does.. because without gasol, kobe was getting bounced in the 1st round of the playoffs OR not even making it
oh and kobe's 81 didn't come against a crappy team with no defense?
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slurp slurp?
i hated jordan when he actually played, but i was smart enough to respect the hell out of the dude
ummm.. what of what i said wasn't true?
and to address your 3 points:
1) how exactly does this discredit my point? are those guys not all time great players who were in their primes during the bulls reign?
2) we have no clue what would have happened.. but we do know is that when jordan was there HE WON.. if you are going speculate, it is easier to speculate in the other direction.. jordan has the highest single season scoring average for the past 30 years (37 in 86-87).. he was able to do some amazing things when you were able to be more physical as a defender.. why should we not believe he would be able to do more without the ability to be as physical on the defensive end?
3) my point was that what jordan had to deal with with those knicks, pistons and heat teams physically and mentally.. and still came out on top.. if dude said he would do something he would
kobe has notoriously shut it down on his teams on NUMEROUS occasions.. hell some of yall kobe/lakers homers really need stop having a selective memory when it comes to these things.. and gasol deserves just as much credit for the lakers recent success as kobe does.. because without gasol, kobe was getting bounced in the 1st round of the playoffs OR not even making it
oh and kobe's 81 didn't come against a crappy team with no defense?
Originally Posted by Murda He
A lot of ya'll are just plain simple minded...... Jordan would NOT score 100 points.
PERIOD. Some of ya'll are just plain irrational... talking bout 25 a quarter is easy
Dude, scoring 63 in a playoff game against one of the top defenses is almost like scoring 100 in a regular season game against one of the worst teams.
Why wouldn't a prime MJ be able to drop 100 against a bum team with today's rules? Also, you acting like Kobe made 15-20 threes, he made 7 threes, which is a total of 7 extra points. Give me a break man.
Edited: Meant to say 63
Originally Posted by Murda He
A lot of ya'll are just plain simple minded...... Jordan would NOT score 100 points.
PERIOD. Some of ya'll are just plain irrational... talking bout 25 a quarter is easy
Dude, scoring 63 in a playoff game against one of the top defenses is almost like scoring 100 in a regular season game against one of the worst teams.
Why wouldn't a prime MJ be able to drop 100 against a bum team with today's rules? Also, you acting like Kobe made 15-20 threes, he made 7 threes, which is a total of 7 extra points. Give me a break man.
Edited: Meant to say 63
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pdoggy85 wrote:
Of course you would say that.
How about the 2004 champs vs. 1994 champs then?
Yeah of course.
The 00,01, and 02 champs would win in seven.
Now that 09 champs would be the ONLY team to LOSE in four.
I ain't even mad about that tho.
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pdoggy85 wrote:
Of course you would say that.
How about the 2004 champs vs. 1994 champs then?
Yeah of course.
The 00,01, and 02 champs would win in seven.
Now that 09 champs would be the ONLY team to LOSE in four.
I ain't even mad about that tho.
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Just stop.. No, it's not...... that's 37 points difference . 37 is more than MJ averaged PER GAME, right? So you mean to tell me that on TOP of his BEST game, he'd still have to score his ppg avg and then some? Right. Perfectly plausible.. I could see that. I could see him adding his best game numbers to his PPG numbers, and scoring all of that in 48 minutes. Sure
The hell kinda math is that?
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Just stop.. No, it's not...... that's 37 points difference . 37 is more than MJ averaged PER GAME, right? So you mean to tell me that on TOP of his BEST game, he'd still have to score his ppg avg and then some? Right. Perfectly plausible.. I could see that. I could see him adding his best game numbers to his PPG numbers, and scoring all of that in 48 minutes. Sure
The hell kinda math is that?
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1. your first point doesn't make sense though. you said those players had to wait til jordan was retired or semi retired to get rings. where's stockton, malone, and ewings rings.
2. be realistic, do you really think jordans bulls or any team in general in the current nba can win 32 playoff series in a row have their best player play in 1 olympics and their second best player play in 2 and win 8 titles straight while doing so. your telling me there's going to be no serious injuries during that time and that teams aren't going to catch up over that timeframe and fatigue isn't going to eventually set in.
3. jordan is the goat but just because he says he's going to do something doesn't mean it's always going to happen.
regarding your post about kobe/gasol answer this how many playoff games did jordan win before pippen came in 87-88? ill answer it for you 1. jordans the greatest player ever there's no disputing that but even he needed quality players and coaching.
yes kobes 81 came against a team with crappy defense but his 62 in 3 quarters came against the 2nd best team in the league and that's a more impressive feat imo. but seriously in hindsight 81 points and 100 points is cool and all but to me what you do over an entire season is what matters cuz hell even tony delk put up 50+ in a game but jordans most impressive season stats to me is 87-88 when he won the scoring title and mvp.
i like mike the player i think he's the greatest to do it while were at it, yea he's a **** as a person but what superstar isn't so thats irrelevant but what gets to me is when people either disparage other players accomplishments while making mike look godlike, or give him a free pass for some of his a hole moves to his teammates while crucifying kobe, bron, or any current player for similar things.
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1. your first point doesn't make sense though. you said those players had to wait til jordan was retired or semi retired to get rings. where's stockton, malone, and ewings rings.
2. be realistic, do you really think jordans bulls or any team in general in the current nba can win 32 playoff series in a row have their best player play in 1 olympics and their second best player play in 2 and win 8 titles straight while doing so. your telling me there's going to be no serious injuries during that time and that teams aren't going to catch up over that timeframe and fatigue isn't going to eventually set in.
3. jordan is the goat but just because he says he's going to do something doesn't mean it's always going to happen.
regarding your post about kobe/gasol answer this how many playoff games did jordan win before pippen came in 87-88? ill answer it for you 1. jordans the greatest player ever there's no disputing that but even he needed quality players and coaching.
yes kobes 81 came against a team with crappy defense but his 62 in 3 quarters came against the 2nd best team in the league and that's a more impressive feat imo. but seriously in hindsight 81 points and 100 points is cool and all but to me what you do over an entire season is what matters cuz hell even tony delk put up 50+ in a game but jordans most impressive season stats to me is 87-88 when he won the scoring title and mvp.
i like mike the player i think he's the greatest to do it while were at it, yea he's a **** as a person but what superstar isn't so thats irrelevant but what gets to me is when people either disparage other players accomplishments while making mike look godlike, or give him a free pass for some of his a hole moves to his teammates while crucifying kobe, bron, or any current player for similar things.
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I think these five (2000-2010 MVP Award Team) in their prime could take on any other eras five (MVP Award Team) in their prime.
Kobe would have to play forward here
or i would have to remove nash and put in Nowitzki as forward
or make duncan forward and add Shaq.
BTW i was born in 1984
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I think these five (2000-2010 MVP Award Team) in their prime could take on any other eras five (MVP Award Team) in their prime.
Kobe would have to play forward here
or i would have to remove nash and put in Nowitzki as forward
or make duncan forward and add Shaq.
BTW i was born in 1984
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1. your first point doesn't make sense though. you said those players had to wait til jordan was retired or semi retired to get rings. where's stockton, malone, and ewings rings.
2. be realistic, do you really think jordans bulls or any team in general in the current nba can win 32 playoff series in a row have their best player play in 1 olympics and their second best player play in 2 and win 8 titles straight while doing so. your telling me there's going to be no serious injuries during that time and that teams aren't going to catch up over that timeframe and fatigue isn't going to eventually set in.
3. jordan is the goat but just because he says he's going to do something doesn't mean it's always going to happen.
regarding your post about kobe/gasol answer this how many playoff games did jordan win before pippen came in 87-88? ill answer it for you 1. jordans the greatest player ever there's no disputing that but even he needed quality players and coaching.
yes kobes 81 came against a team with crappy defense but his 62 in 3 quarters came against the 2nd best team in the league and that's a more impressive feat imo. but seriously in hindsight 81 points and 100 points is cool and all but to me what you do over an entire season is what matters cuz hell even tony delk put up 50+ in a game but jordans most impressive season stats to me is 87-88 when he won the scoring title and mvp.
i like mike the player i think he's the greatest to do it while were at it, yea he's a **** as a person but what superstar isn't so thats irrelevant but what gets to me is when people either disparage other players accomplishments while making mike look godlike, or give him a free pass for some of his a hole moves to his teammates while crucifying kobe, bron, or any current player for similar things.
1) the point about that posts was that you had all time great players who didn't win while jordan was there (hakeem and drexler only won when jordan wasn't there)
2) the bulls did do that.. jordan and pippen played in the 92 olympics and pippen played in the 96 olympics
3) take a look at some of the teams jordan scored 50+ against:
63 against the 86 celtics in the playoffs
61 against the 87 pistons
59 against the 88 pistons
52 against the 88 celtics
54 agaisnt the 93 knicks
55 agaisnt the 95 kinicks
jordan was able to do it against great defensive teams in an era where the players were allowed to be physical on defense
sure it sounds nice to say kobe had 62 in 3 quarters against the 2nd best team.. but you're being disingenuous, because it was still the mavs.. who unless i am mistaken, are still not known for their defense..
I'm not dumping on kobe.. but the reason why i personally believe he gets crap for basically doing some of the same things jordan did is because unlike jordan, kobe has given up on his teams before.. hell he even tried to get traded
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1. your first point doesn't make sense though. you said those players had to wait til jordan was retired or semi retired to get rings. where's stockton, malone, and ewings rings.
2. be realistic, do you really think jordans bulls or any team in general in the current nba can win 32 playoff series in a row have their best player play in 1 olympics and their second best player play in 2 and win 8 titles straight while doing so. your telling me there's going to be no serious injuries during that time and that teams aren't going to catch up over that timeframe and fatigue isn't going to eventually set in.
3. jordan is the goat but just because he says he's going to do something doesn't mean it's always going to happen.
regarding your post about kobe/gasol answer this how many playoff games did jordan win before pippen came in 87-88? ill answer it for you 1. jordans the greatest player ever there's no disputing that but even he needed quality players and coaching.
yes kobes 81 came against a team with crappy defense but his 62 in 3 quarters came against the 2nd best team in the league and that's a more impressive feat imo. but seriously in hindsight 81 points and 100 points is cool and all but to me what you do over an entire season is what matters cuz hell even tony delk put up 50+ in a game but jordans most impressive season stats to me is 87-88 when he won the scoring title and mvp.
i like mike the player i think he's the greatest to do it while were at it, yea he's a **** as a person but what superstar isn't so thats irrelevant but what gets to me is when people either disparage other players accomplishments while making mike look godlike, or give him a free pass for some of his a hole moves to his teammates while crucifying kobe, bron, or any current player for similar things.
1) the point about that posts was that you had all time great players who didn't win while jordan was there (hakeem and drexler only won when jordan wasn't there)
2) the bulls did do that.. jordan and pippen played in the 92 olympics and pippen played in the 96 olympics
3) take a look at some of the teams jordan scored 50+ against:
63 against the 86 celtics in the playoffs
61 against the 87 pistons
59 against the 88 pistons
52 against the 88 celtics
54 agaisnt the 93 knicks
55 agaisnt the 95 kinicks
jordan was able to do it against great defensive teams in an era where the players were allowed to be physical on defense
sure it sounds nice to say kobe had 62 in 3 quarters against the 2nd best team.. but you're being disingenuous, because it was still the mavs.. who unless i am mistaken, are still not known for their defense..
I'm not dumping on kobe.. but the reason why i personally believe he gets crap for basically doing some of the same things jordan did is because unlike jordan, kobe has given up on his teams before.. hell he even tried to get traded
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Originally Posted by Brandon3000
Jordan vs. the Warriors
dudes stay taking shots at my team
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Originally Posted by Brandon3000
Jordan vs. the Warriors
dudes stay taking shots at my team
