Kevin Samuels Thread

[WASHED KING]

Nah Fam.

This aint it.

I respect women enough to see them as adults who have the authority to make their own decisions.

I respect women enough to hold them accountable for the decisions they make.

If they make the decision to call into Samuels show making claims and having opinions that aren't based on facts / reality then what's the problem?

The burden of proof lies with the person making the claim.

None of them are victims.

The Ad Hominem fallacy aint working.

We can talk all day long about Samuels delivery but where is the lie?

He provides data, metrics, and numbers that anyone with access to the internet can easily confirm.

We cant claim to respect women one minute and the next create a narrative that they are little girls who cant handle reality.

Creating safe spaces for lies and delusions to divide us is how the black family got so far gone in the first place.

If anything we need more of Kevin Samuels in our communities. He gets on men the exact same way.

Samuels in not the problem nor is he our enemy.

He's actually out here speaking for lots of us and our experiences - including my own.

His "Cut your hair for Corporate America" video pissed me off at first too but after I got out of my feelings I realized he was exactly right.

Hit dogs are supposed to holler.

I'm not arguing any of the concepts being discussed.

None of that has anything to do with the environment in which all these conversations take place. His delivery is completely irrelevant to this conversation I'm addressing the notion that Kevin should be applauded like some hero for talking circles around the women who engage with him.

Who is Kevin Samuels benefitting besides Kevin Samuels is the question here? These livestreams happen for his monetary gain, these women are getting absolutely NOTHING from talking with him. But he is getting the subscribers, ad revenue, more members for his group etc all the benefit.

I'm just calling a spade a spade this man isn't out here to do anything but line his own pockets. I'm not mad at it get your money, I find the interactions entertaining but that's where it ends for me.

Kevin isn't speaking for my life experiences at all. All the black families I saw growing up were strong 2 parent households. I'm a public school teacher, 5'10 according to Kevin's definition I'm not a "high value" man but I have zero issues dating attractive successful women. I know plenty of guys I went to school with that work blue collar jobs labor jobs no college degree some still live with their moms and and date attractive women who make more money than them with no issue.

So which one is it? Are women already settling?

I just see a lot of applause for Kevin from guys who don't get any play and feel like he is their savior or something. It's weird.

 

[aepps20]

Nah Fam.

This aint it.

I respect women enough to see them as adults who have the authority to make their own decisions.

I respect women enough to hold them accountable for the decisions they make.

If they make the decision to call into Samuels show making claims and having opinions that aren't based on facts / reality then what's the problem?

The burden of proof lies with the person making the claim.

None of them are victims.

The Ad Hominem fallacy aint working.

We can talk all day long about Samuels delivery but where is the lie?

He provides data, metrics, and numbers that anyone with access to the internet can easily confirm.

We cant claim to respect women one minute and the next create a narrative that they are little girls who cant handle reality.

Creating safe spaces for lies and delusions to divide us is how the black family got so far gone in the first place.

If anything we need more of Kevin Samuels in our communities. He gets on men the exact same way.

Samuels in not the problem nor is he our enemy.

He's actually out here speaking for lots of us and our experiences - including my own.

His "Cut your hair for Corporate America" video pissed me off at first too but after I got out of my feelings I realized he was exactly right.

Hit dogs are supposed to holler.

Hit libs do the same thing. Not trying to bring my politics into this bug I suspect that 100% of Kevin's callers,l are libs. The conjecture and innuendo in those calls is shocking.

 

[tay1]

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I'm not arguing any of the concepts being discussed.

None of that has anything to do with the environment in which all these conversations take place. His delivery is completely irrelevant to this conversation I'm addressing the notion that Kevin should be applauded like some hero for talking circles around the women who engage with him.

Who is Kevin Samuels benefitting besides Kevin Samuels is the question here? These livestreams happen for his monetary gain, these women are getting absolutely NOTHING from talking with him. But he is getting the subscribers, ad revenue, more members for his group etc all the benefit.

I'm just calling a spade a spade this man isn't out here to do anything but line his own pockets. I'm not mad at it get your money, I find the interactions entertaining but that's where it ends for me.

Kevin isn't speaking for my life experiences at all. All the black families I saw growing up were strong 2 parent households. I'm a public school teacher, 5'10 according to Kevin's definition I'm not a "high value" man but I have zero issues dating attractive successful women. I know plenty of guys I went to school with that work blue collar jobs labor jobs no college degree some still live with their moms and and date attractive women who make more money than them with no issue.

So which one is it? Are women already settling?

I just see a lot of applause for Kevin from guys who don't get any play and feel like he is their savior or something. It's weird.

He doesn’t attribute being a “high value” man to being able to attract women. His target male audience is the top 10-15 percent income wise but naturally his kind of conversations will attract incels. Nothing you can do about that.

 

[WASHED KING]

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He doesn’t attribute being a “high value” man to being able to attract women. His target male audience is the top 10-15 percent income wise but naturally his kind of conversations will attract incels. Nothing you can do about that.

Y'all really think men making the top 10-15% percent is really watching Kevin Samuels in their free time?

His target audience is women (disgruntled) and incels.

 

[tay1]

Y'all really think men making the top 10-15% percent is really watching Kevin Samuels in their free time?

Those are the type of men he speaks about. It’s the primary factor in what he determines to be “high value”

He also speaks to men who are on their way or are seeking to be on their way to reaching that kind of lifestyle “HIT squad” if you’re familiar with his little terminology.

 

[Present]

Y'all really think men making the top 10-15% percent is really watching Kevin Samuels in their free time?

His target audience is women (disgruntled) and incels.

Bruh!

I guess you missed the part where he's hooked up high value couples who are now engaged to be married?

I get it.

You don't like Kevin Samuels (for whatever reason).

I mean that's cool and all but damn...what did he say / do that bothers you so much?

 

[tay1]

However, I do wish he would go back to speaking to men. Because a lot of dudes need work themselves and to hear his older messages before he transitioned to speaking to women.

 

[WASHED KING]

Bruh!

I guess you missed the part where he's hooked up high value couples who are now engaged to be married?

I get it.

You don't like Kevin Samuels (for whatever reason).

I mean that's cool and all but damn...what did he say / do that bothers you so much?

I have zero issue with dude. I've said many of times in this very thread I find him entertaining check the post history. But to act like he's some saint and savior for the Black relationship is not it. He has a fanbase, a platform and knows how to get engagement. That's a skill in itself.

Kevin is out here to get that money, and I will never have an issue with a black man getting paid.

 

[oidreez]

I'm not arguing any of the concepts being discussed.

None of that has anything to do with the environment in which all these conversations take place. His delivery is completely irrelevant to this conversation I'm addressing the notion that Kevin should be applauded like some hero for talking circles around the women who engage with him.

Who is Kevin Samuels benefitting besides Kevin Samuels is the question here? These livestreams happen for his monetary gain, these women are getting absolutely NOTHING from talking with him. But he is getting the subscribers, ad revenue, more members for his group etc all the benefit.

I'm just calling a spade a spade this man isn't out here to do anything but line his own pockets. I'm not mad at it get your money, I find the interactions entertaining but that's where it ends for me.

Kevin isn't speaking for my life experiences at all. All the black families I saw growing up were strong 2 parent households. I'm a public school teacher, 5'10 according to Kevin's definition I'm not a "high value" man but I have zero issues dating attractive successful women. I know plenty of guys I went to school with that work blue collar jobs labor jobs no college degree some still live with their moms and and date attractive women who make more money than them with no issue.

So which one is it? Are women already settling?

I just see a lot of applause for Kevin from guys who don't get any play and feel like he is their savior or something. It's weird.

So then why are these women calling in if they should know by now how he's gonna react to them?

It's weird that people like what he has to say? We're living in a time where all a woman has to do is post a selfie to IG and gets tons of likes and comments but he's telling them to be humble and it's weird that men are liking this...

 

[DCAllAfrican]

Nah Fam.


I respect women enough to see them as adults who have the authority to make their own decisions.

I respect women enough to hold them accountable for the decisions they make.

I follow your train of thought but why do you think/believe people DON'T do this?

I also would like to hear from KHUFU on this because I know he believes women making poor decisions with men is a result of the society men crafted? (Touching on what you mentioned before)

 

[KHUFU]

Go up against Samuels?

Samuels is easy to defeat?

Samuels is an oppressor?

Women are slaves?

Huh?

In the videos I've watched, its the women's own thoughts, actions, ways, words, decisions, and choices (including the decision / choice to call into his platform) that are on display.

Nope, but I hear you, you are talking about choice. Because of their oppression, these women are not prepared to discuss their own feelings, or their own oppression, or circumstances while dealing with such. Yes, they do call in, but the women who can put Samuels in his place, are not going to call into such a format. They are too busy getting it done even though the system is against them. The women that are calling into that show, are seeking validation from the wrong source. I would never ask someone white to validate me, through his own explanation of his or her privilege. !&@@ them.

 

[Present]

I follow your train of thought but why do you think/believe people DON'T do this?

I also would like to hear from KHUFU on this because I know he believes women making poor decisions with men is a result of the society men crafted? (Touching on what you mentioned before)

It doesn't show in their comments.

 

[doublemesh96]

This dude is a certified fun boy. Atlanta is a cesspool

 

[Present]

Nope, but I hear you, you are talking about choice. Because of their oppression, these women are not prepared to discuss their own feelings, or their own oppression, or circumstances while dealing with such. Yes, they do call in, but the women who can put Samuels in his place, are not going to call into such a format. They are too busy getting it done even though the system is against them. The women that are calling into that show, are seeking validation from the wrong source. I would never ask someone white to validate me, through his own explanation of his or her privilege. !&@@ them.

Put him in his place?

What place is that?

Also,

I believe the women you speak of would surrender their positions to facts, logic, and reason so they'd more than likely be on the side of truth.

Otherwise they aren't honest people and should be treated as such.

There should never be a point in an argument, debate, or discussion where feelings are valued over facts...and the fact of the matter is women these days have far more power than their predecessors ever dreamed of in the USA.

I hear the word oppression and immediately shut up, because that isn't my song to sing or story to tell.

Id rather a woman tell me about her own oppression...and the ones in my life have never mentioned being oppressed to me, so I can only imagine.

Sorta like a White man telling me about the oppression of Black people.

I have a Mother that lived through the Civil Rights movement, sisters, nieces, aunts, etc and never heard them mentioned being "oppressed" by Black men.

I understand this means nothing because its anecdotal - which is why I wish there were more women on NT to tell their own story when it comes to oppression.

The feminist movement has done much to destroy the credibility of the women who are actually suffering the most.

Ex: All those white women who wore ***** hats still voted overwhelmingly for a ***** grabber.

 

[finessence]

What makes a man “high value” according to Kevin isn’t the same for women. And I agree with him on that aspect. What primarily makes a man high value according to him is his resources. He targets men making 100k and above. A man shouldn’t care about a woman’s money.

A man should DEFINITELY care about a woman’s money. Like who raised you guys? This is exactly why some of these women act a damn fool. A woman needs to contribute financially just like a man should! Not caring about a women's money is why their are a lot of simps and incels out here

 

[finessence]

However, I do wish he would go back to speaking to men. Because a lot of dudes need work themselves and to hear his older messages before he transitioned to speaking to women.

Exactly. I definitely want to hear him to talk the men who are out here getting played because their so desperate to be had. Just like the disgruntled women he interviews. I want to hear from the disgruntled men. I also want to hear him talk to more people ages 19-23, and ages 27-33.

Sometimes, he never asks these women what industry they work in or, what their housing and transportation situation is. He needs to delve more into that too. Also, their habits. Like do they smoke, drink, hobbies, do they watch sports or own pets. He leaves out a lot of important questions

 

[DCAllAfrican]

He shut down that, "Black men are locked up and gay" card QUICK

THis was funny when they got on the topic of weight.

 

[tay1]

A man should DEFINITELY care about a woman’s money. Like who raised you guys? This is exactly why some of these women act a damn fool. A woman needs to contribute financially just like a man should! Not caring about a women's money is why their are a lot of simps and incels out here

If you needs a woman’s money to survive, live comfortably, etc, you lost . If she has her own money, great, if not I don’t care. Either way, she’s gonna be on my program. With or without her, I’ll be good.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

If you needs a woman’s money to survive, live comfortably, etc, you lost . If she has her own money, great, if not I don’t care. Either way, she’s gonna be on my program. With or without her, I’ll be good.

You would be cool with a stay at home wife that doesn't have much to offer financially?

I come in peace.

 

[tay1]

You would be cool with a stay at home wife that doesn't have much to offer financially?

I come in peace.

Once we have kids, I’m more than cool with that. I don’t want nannies, babysitters, etc.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

Once I have kids, I’m more than cool with that. I don’t want nannies, babysitters, etc.

Oh aight!

 

[WASHED KING]

Personally I don't want a stay at home wife. That's just me though women that want that typically don't peak my interest. They bore me.

 

[tay1]

Oh aight!

Working on it

 

[tay1]

Personally I don't want a stay at home wife. That's just me though women that want that typically don't peak my interest. They bore me.

I just don’t wanna be in a position to where the woman who carried a child for nine months needs to be in a position where she has to work in order for us to be good. Also. I want the mother to be there for the child as long as she can in it’s early years.

Just to ask. How do you foresee taking care of the children in infancy of both are working full time?

 

[finessence]

Stay at home mom in 2021.

He gone wanna kill her when he come home and see her getting throttle by some random dude