Kevin Samuels Thread

[KHUFU]

The issue is relationships.

The women call in because they claim to want a "high value man" for relationships / marriage.

How can we remove men from this discussion and still have a discussion?

Especially considering the fact that men control access to relationships and marriage?

Sorta like going on a job interview and telling the employer that the job description and qualifications required don't matter.

No I dont have a degree.

No I dont have any experience.

No I dont know what this company does....nor do I care.

Just give me the job title, pay me, and shut up about what you actually need from me / want me to do.

If you don't give me the job then you're just a big fat meanie and I'm gonna tell on you!

Imagine the nerve it takes to even conjure such an POV.

Well, the whole problem lies in the question of what is a high quality man, and then whom she is seeking information from on the matter. Because he is a man, is he truly qualified to discuss such matters? Instead of having a discussion based upon history, and why women were oppressed in the first place, and how that will effect the decisions that women, Black women, will make? He is speaking from an advantageous position in regard to his privilege, yet not one from intellectual acuity.

Men aren't chastised for having multiple sex partners, or even having more than one partner at one particular session. However, let a Black woman have a three way with two well hung men, and then bragging about it to her friends with a few males present. She'll be called all sorts of derogatory names, shamed even by the women AND men. There is indeed a double standard.

But if the brother does the same, with two ladies resembling porn stars?

Oh he is the MAN!

So when Samuels asks these women if they have children, then suggesting that she is not worthy of a supposed high quality man due to having such?

It's a problem, a very big problem.

A high quality man isn't going to judge anyone, simply because they have children, or simply multiple sex partners...if he is indeed of good character.

 

[tay1]

So when Samuels asks these women if they have children, then suggesting that she is not worthy of a supposed high quality man due to having such?

It's a problem, a very big problem.

A high quality man isn't going to judge anyone, simply because they have children, or simply multiple sex partners...if he is indeed of good character.

This isn’t his argument. His claim is why would a high value man settle for a woman with children when he can have one without kids

Most men think like this. Men aren’t wifing or seeking to wife women with kids. That’s just how it is. If we really wanna be real, women with kids are usually side pieces.

And his gauge of a high value man is strictly income based. He never mentions character.

 

[KHUFU]

This isn’t his argument. His claim is why would a high value man settle for a woman with children when he can choose a woman without?

Most men think like this. Men aren’t wifing or seeking to wife women with kids. That’s just how it is.

And his gauge of high value is strictly income base. He never mentions character..

I don't know about that, men not wanting a woman with children. If she has her own paper? That changes EVERYTHING. If she does not rely upon anyone to get the job done? I know of several divorcee's here in Manhattan that are always, and I mean ALWAYS beating men, younger men off of them, while being asked to marry or be in a relationship, and I am talking about Black women as well. I know of a few in ATL as well, including one heiress to a food chain.

Nope, not buying it. Since Samuels isn't talking about character? Then his example of high quality is way off, totally missing the mark.

 

[tomdiginson]

Just give me the job title, pay me, and shut up about what you actually need from me / want me to do.

If you don't give me the job then you're just a big fat meanie and I'm gonna tell on you!

Imagine the nerve it takes to even conjure such an POV.

Wasn't one of the callers upset because he wouldn't give her advice because she wanted to cheat and eventually move from her husband who had cancer and was going through chemotherapy? The audacity There were some who wanted to defend that behavior too.

 

[tay1]

I don't know about that, men not wanting a woman with children. If she has her own paper? That changes EVERYTHING. If she does not rely upon anyone to get the job done? I know of several divorcee's here in Manhattan that are always, and I mean ALWAYS beating men, younger men off of them, while being asked to marry or be in a relationship, and I am talking about Black women as well. I know of a few in ATL as well, including one heiress to a food chain.

Nope, not buying it. Since Samuels isn't talking about character? Then his example of high quality is way off, totally missing the mark.

Bro the high majority of men don’t want women with kids. We don’t have to argue that.

I mean that’s his definition of what a high value man is. I can have mine, he can have his. It’s neither right nor wrong. Just what he gauges to be high value.

 

[KHUFU]

Bro the high majority of men don’t want women with kids. We don’t have to argue that.

Okay, since you want to play that game, should women want men with kids?

 

[WASHED KING]

I’m 24 with no kids so at this point in my life I don’t want to date a woman with kids.

Not trying to play step daddy right now.

 

[tay1]

Okay, since you want to play that game, should women want men with kids?

I wouldn’t advise people to date others with kids in general. It a women doesn’t want to deal with men with kids, that’s fine and she’s not in the wrong for that. Others peoples kids can complicate things.

 

[Present]

Well, the whole problem lies in the question of what is a high quality man, and then whom she is seeking information from on the matter. Because he is a man, is he truly qualified to discuss such matters? Instead of having a discussion based upon history, and why women were oppressed in the first place, and how that will effect the decisions that women, Black women, will make? He is speaking from an advantageous position in regard to his privilege, yet not one from intellectual acuity.

Men aren't chastised for having multiple sex partners, or even having more than one partner at one particular session. However, let a Black woman have a three way with two well hung men, and then bragging about it to her friends with a few males present. She'll be called all sorts of derogatory names, shamed even by the women AND men. There is indeed a double standard.

But if the brother does the same, with two ladies resembling porn stars?

Oh he is the MAN!

So when Samuels asks these women if they have children, then suggesting that she is not worthy of a supposed high quality man due to having such?

It's a problem, a very big problem.

A high quality man isn't going to judge anyone, simply because they have children, or simply multiple sex partners...if he is indeed of good character.

The women themselves defined the "High Value Man", not Samuels.

They call in saying they want this and want that...

6 figures
Over 6 feet tall
Young
Business owner / CEO
In Shape
Nice Car
Nice House
Etc. Etc.

Basically all the things our mothers and grandmothers BUILT with our fathers and grandfathers...they want to walk into it, with three kids, baby daddies, and a gut.

Our fathers, grandfathers aren't good enough and they are too good to build with an average man like those women that came before them.

Show up at the end of the race talking about - WE WON BABY!

I aint even mad though.

Cant knock the hustle...

80% to 90% of divorces are initiated by Women too? Alimony, Child support, visitations, etc etc.

They even have cases where a single man dated a woman with a child and all of a sudden got hit with child support.

Ever hear of "Paternity by Estoppel"?

The game is the game.

 

[KHUFU]

The women themselves defined the "High Value Man", not Samuels.

They call is saying they want this and want that...

6 figures
Over 6 feet tall
Young
Business owner / CEO
In Shape
Nice Car
Nice House
Etc. Etc.

Basically all the things our mothers and grandmothers BUILT with our fathers and grandfathers...they want to walk into it, with three kids, baby daddies, and a gut.

So, nobody is talking about character, for neither the man nor woman, right?

Therein lies the issue, and that is a really major problem.

 

[WASHED KING]

So, nobody is talking about character, for neither the man nor woman, right?

Therein lies the issue, and that is a really major problem.

Relationships are treated more like business deals if you will.

Great point

 

[KHUFU]

I wouldn’t advise people to date others with kids in general. It a women doesn’t want to deal with men with kids, that’s fine and she’s not in the wrong for that. Others peoples kids can complicate things.

All of that changes once you get older. I am sure that you know that. Once people enter their thirties, forties, they begin to look back at life. If you've truly lived, kids may be in the picture, but you can also still be seeking success.

Nobody should be giving up hope about being in a successful relationship, simply because they have children.

 

[KHUFU]

The women themselves defined the "High Value Man", not Samuels.

They call in saying they want this and want that...

6 figures
Over 6 feet tall
Young
Business owner / CEO
In Shape
Nice Car
Nice House
Etc. Etc.

Basically all the things our mothers and grandmothers BUILT with our fathers and grandfathers...they want to walk into it, with three kids, baby daddies, and a gut.

Our fathers, grandfathers aren't good enough and they are too good to build with an average man like those women that came before them.

Show up and the end of the race talking about - WE WON BABY!

 

[Present]

I’m 24 with no kids so at this point in my life I don’t want to date a woman with kids.

Not trying to play step daddy right now.

Wise choice!

Don't Do it!!!

My GF has kids but I made damn sure their father is on child support already.

Protect yourself at all times!

The doctrine of paternity by estoppel is most often applied in child support cases to either preclude a man who has held the child out as his own from avoiding support of the child after his relationship with the child's mother has ended or to preclude a mother "who held one man out as her child's father from seeking support from another man" at a later time. The Pennsylvania Supreme Court has stated: "Those who mislead a child as to the identity of his or her natural father, cannot then turn around and disprove their own fiction to the detriment of the child.

Sorry. This document is not available.

www.jdsupra.com

 

[WASHED KING]

Wise choice!

Don't Do it!!!

My GF has kids but I made damn sure their father is on child support already.

Protect yourself at all times!

The doctrine of paternity by estoppel is most often applied in child support cases to either preclude a man who has held the child out as his own from avoiding support of the child after his relationship with the child's mother has ended or to preclude a mother "who held one man out as her child's father from seeking support from another man" at a later time. The Pennsylvania Supreme Court has stated: "Those who mislead a child as to the identity of his or her natural father, cannot then turn around and disprove their own fiction to the detriment of the child.

Sorry. This document is not available.

www.jdsupra.com

They our chea:

Don’t get me wrong I want kids one day but right now at this very moment I know I’m not in the place maturity wise to be a father and support a family.

That wouldn’t be fair to the child or it’s mother.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

I don't think anyone PREFERS to play step-father but many jump into that situation for sure.

 

[tomdiginson]

Kevin done inspired all people across the youtube spectrum to start talking about relationships

 

[jape]

Kevin done inspired all people across the youtube spectrum to start talking about relationships

i wouldn't attribute that to him. lets be real...this has been a thing since forever. people just have a platform now.

 

[Present]

Don’t get me wrong I want kids one day but right now at this very moment I know I’m not in the place maturity wise to be a father and support a family.

That wouldn’t be fair to the child or it’s mother.

Stick with your convictions.

Stand for something or fall for anything.

Don't let anyone shame or guilt you into doing something that you don't want to do / push you into something you're not ready for.

Only you know what's right / wrong for you.

 

[tay1]

Kevin done inspired all people across the youtube spectrum to start talking about relationships

Isn’t bro a racist? I remember him saying some questionable stuff.

 

[Present]

Kevin done inspired all people across the youtube spectrum to start talking about relationships

Hopefully the more men share information we can put a dent in male suicide rates.

My ex's brother committed suicide over a failed relationship, debilitating child support, and not being able to see his son.

He had a baseball scholarship and ended up getting his HS GF pregnant, she kept the baby, and put him on child support.

He dropped out of college, got a job at a plant, and had his checks garnished...leaving him to live with his Mom, this was back when they took ALL the money.

One of his checks was literally $12.

Went to go see / pick up his son and saw a dude chillin, feet up, shirt off, playing the play station he bought his son for Christmas, and his son was telling him he was hungry. Moms started going off on him when he said something, calling him all kinds of names...he still had feelings for her and all that.

Went to the car and ended his life right there in the parking lot.

Got hectic when BM tried to come to the funeral.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

 

[tomdiginson]

Isn’t bro a racist? I remember him saying some questionable stuff.

Not certain. This is the first I'm hearing this.

i wouldn't attribute that to him. lets be real...this has been a thing since forever. people just have a platform now.

Definitely not, but I'm seeing Youtubers who's content is drastically different begin talking about it. For example, the one I posted talks about Tech.

 

[marikomorose]

Would any of you agree that you have unrealistic standards?

 

[frankmatthews]

I said it before and I'll say it again, the problem is people got a list of superficial **** they looking for in a mate like they going grocery shopping. People got it in their head what THEY want, and its just a matter of checking off boxes when meeting people and determining if they are a suitable match to fulfill their own desires. It aint about meeting someone, seeing them for who they are as a person and falling in love with said person. Its about what do I get out of it, what do they bring to my table, how does this person contribute to my own fragile self image. How do they reflect on ME. Did I win by "obtaing" this person, or am I taking an L. Me, me, me. Very rarely if ever is it about the person, or love, unless you count love of self. And it is eventually exposed when the inevitable problems creep in. Dam this person that I invested years with, children, marriage. Nope, I can do better and I want better.

All this talk about a high value man, ok he makes six figures, is built, got no kids, owns a home and 3 cars. Now when you find out hes a lame, or he cheats on you, or beats you then what? You didnt get into a relationship with a solid individual, you got into a relationship with a list of attributes.