Kevin Samuels Thread

[feeninlikejodeci]

No doubt about it.

Dudes tend to not know that it was only thirty years ago that women in the united states needed a man to cosign for a credit card, or even a home owner loan. Women could not spend money using credit, without a man cosigning such.

...you dont think that was a good practice?

Let's look at the spending habits of your typical independent "boss lady"

Drinks a $5 coffee every morning
Has some type of weekly 3 digit splurge (Designer Shoes/Handbag, nails/hair, IKEA)
Drives either a Gas Guzzling SUVs or "Luxury" car thats less than 5 years old
Lives by herself when she couldve stayed with Mom/Dad or had roommates

 

[KHUFU]

...you dont think that was a good practice?

Let's look at a typical independent "boss lady" who makes $40k a year...

Drinks a $5 coffee every morning
Has some type of weekly 3 digit splurge (Designer Shoes/Handbag, nails/hair, IKEA)
Drives either a Gas Guzzling SUVs and or "Luxury" car (C Class Mercedes)
Lives in a condo when she couldve rented an apt. Lives by herself when she couldve stayed with Mom/Dad or had roommates

If anything Society needs to revert back to 1970 standards, people took "MAGA" out of context thinking it was racism...half of it has to do with gender roles.

I hope that you are joking with this post.

 

[finessence]

...you dont think that was a good practice?

Let's look at a typical independent "boss lady" who makes $40k a year...

Drinks a $5 coffee every morning
Has some type of weekly 3 digit splurge (Designer Shoes/Handbag, nails/hair, IKEA)
Drives either a Gas Guzzling SUVs and or "Luxury" car (C Class Mercedes)
Lives in a condo when she couldve rented an apt. Lives by herself when she couldve stayed with Mom/Dad or had roommates

If anything Society needs to revert back to 1970 standards, people took "MAGA" out of context thinking it was racism...half of it has to do with gender roles.

whooooo is making 40k a year, living in a CONDO?!?? Your math is terrible

 

[KHUFU]

took “MAGA”out of context

I had to make sure I read that correctly.

 

[Present]

Patriarchy created this sort of woman, so now men must deal with the result. If you are a dude who chooses to be a with a woman without her own voice, her own paper, her own identity? Then the result is just. You gotta see trouble before it comes.

Is it even fair to label it as “women”? It’s not all of them like this. I wouldn’t know what to call this group though. And yea, this group of women were created by low standard men and terrible all around American values

I get it.

Unchecked patriarchy is flawed to say the least.

Is this just a pendulum swing to Matriarchy?

Horrible women were created by men?

Where are these women w/o a voice, money, or identity, in 2021...maybe in another country but in the Unites States?

At what point does personal accountability take affect?

If I don't get to blame the racist rich white man for my personal choices, thoughts, and beliefs w/o calling him my "Daddy" then how is it any less patriarchal to allow women to hide behind men and throw rocks...blaming men for women's own world views, entitlements, decisions, etc?

Personal accountability for all.

Women have the authority to behave as they see fit so they have the accountability for their own behavior.

And please. "Not all women" = "Not all cops".

It's the cultural conditioning and actual systems (child support, marriage, divorce, alimony, etc).

Between abstinence, birth control, abortion, and adoption, 100% of single Mothers are Mothers by choice.

Women control access to sex, Men control access to marriage.

Fun Fact: 80% of divorces are initiated by women.

IMHO - Personal accountability for choices and responsibility for actions / decisions is not gender based.

Ex: Cardi B doesn't play her own music in front of her daughter. Some might find this hypocritical, but to me she is doing what she is supposed to do. It aint her job to decide what music other parents allow their kids to listen to. Yet if a man says her music is too raunchy - here comes some feminist to shout him down.

 

[WASHED KING]

 

[Mark Antony]

I hope that you are joking with this post.

Always is, don't know why dudes indulge him.

 

[blastercombo]

I get it.

Unchecked patriarchy is flawed to say the least.

Is this just a pendulum swing to Matriarchy?

Horrible women were created by men?

Where are these women w/o a voice, money, or identity, in 2021...maybe in another country but in the Unites States?

At what point does personal accountability take affect?

If I don't get to blame the racist rich white man for my personal choices, thoughts, and beliefs w/o calling him my "Daddy" then how is it any less patriarchal to allow women to hide behind men and throw rocks...blaming men for women's own world views, entitlements, decisions, etc?

Personal accountability for all.

Women have the authority to behave as they see fit so they have the accountability for their own behavior.

And please. "Not all women" = "Not all cops".

It's the cultural conditioning and actual systems (child support, marriage, divorce, alimony, etc).

Fun Fact: 80% of divorces are initiated by women.

Between abstinence, birth control, abortion, and adoption, 100% of single Mothers are Mothers by choice.

IMHO - Personal accountability for choices and responsibility for actions / decisions is not gender based.

Ex:

Couple things

1. Do not compare this to anything police related. Nobody woke up and said I’ll go take classes for a week and be a deadbeat woman with the intent to harm people, nor did anyone choose to be a woman

2. Personal choice is real, I’m with you on that

3. I don’t blame anyone for anything but American values are trash. You cite choice all you want but that’s like blaming someone for speaking with a country accent even though they live in the Deep South. Environment matters. Upbringing matters.

4.The divorce numbers need more context for me to jump on one side or the other. I don’t know WHY they’re getting divorced buts that’s also an American thing. Getting married is an adult pastime in American culture.

For the most part I agree with you but they’re things that warrant more discussion than a simple yes or no.

 

[blastercombo]

...you dont think that was a good practice?

Let's look at the spending habits of your typical independent "boss lady"

Drinks a $5 coffee every morning
Has some type of weekly 3 digit splurge (Designer Shoes/Handbag, nails/hair, IKEA)
Drives either a Gas Guzzling SUVs or "Luxury" car thats less than 5 years old
Lives by herself when she couldve stayed with Mom/Dad or had roommates

You got 1 strike left before you’re in the block list just on nonsense alone

 

[KHUFU]

I get it.

Unchecked patriarchy is flawed to say the least.

Is this just a pendulum swing to Matriarchy?

Horrible women were created by men?

Where are these women w/o a voice, money, or identity, in 2021...maybe in another country but in the Unites States?

At what point does personal accountability take affect?

If I don't get to blame the racist rich white man for my personal choices, thoughts, and beliefs w/o calling him my "Daddy" then how is it any less patriarchal to allow women to hide behind men and throw rocks...blaming men for women's own world views, entitlements, decisions, etc?

Personal accountability for all.

Women have the authority to behave as they see fit so they have the accountability for their own behavior.

And please. "Not all women" = "Not all cops".

It's the cultural conditioning and actual systems (child support, marriage, divorce, alimony, etc).

Fun Fact: 80% of divorces are initiated by women.

Between abstinence, birth control, abortion, and adoption, 100% of single Mothers are Mothers by choice.

IMHO - Personal accountability for choices and responsibility for actions / decisions is not gender based.

Ex:

The problem is that women still do not have equal representation under the law. The same goes for religious institutions, those of which influence politics, then extending itself into issues such as abortion rights. South Carolina has just passed a bill in the matter, and the supreme court has placed the bill on hold. Needless to say, representatives who are male and republican, are pushing the bill to ban abortions. Women do not own their own bodies in this country, as proven through such legislation. This and the fact that it is still occurring in 2021, proves that there is still a long way to go, until women can truly rep and then make decisions for themselves, truly being free.

 

[Present]

Couple things

1. Do not compare this to anything police related. Nobody woke up and said I’ll go take classes for a week and be a deadbeat woman with the intent to harm people, nor did anyone choose to be a woman

2. Personal choice is real, I’m with you on that

3. I don’t blame anyone for anything but American values are trash. You cite choice all you want but that’s like blaming someone for speaking with a country accent even though they live in the Deep South. Environment matters. Upbringing matters.

4.The divorce numbers need more context for me to jump on one side or the other. I don’t know WHY they’re getting divorced buts that’s also an American thing. Getting married is an adult pastime in American culture.

For the most part I agree with you but they’re things that warrant more discussion than a simple yes or no.

You missed my point...

The "Not all" logical fallacy is the issue. We could be talking about football players or car accidents, though I appreciate the passion on police brutality.

Not all (also known as Not all X) is a turn of phrase that attempts to force unnecessary "nuance" into a subject that already has nuance, either by:

1. Deflecting fully specific criticism by pretending it's actually quite unspecific (first form), or
2. Insisting that you need not be specific yourself when dishing out criticism to others (second form)

The Not all fallacy is employed in the hopes of shutting down conversation by making the opponent appear to lack all nuance.

Ex:

Person A: I posted up a video to support anti-bullying efforts… I got really bullied by the football players at my school.

Person B: I used to play football, and I never bullied anyone. Don't judge all jocks by just your experience! #NotallFootballPlayers

or

Person A: Wow, did you know that in 2011, 23% of all auto collisions involved cell phones? We should do something about that.

Person B: Not all people text and drive. I've never done that. You shouldn't be prejudiced against drivers just because some of them do crappy ****. #NotAllDrivers

 

[blastercombo]

The problem is that women still do not have equal representation under the law. The same goes for religious institutions, those of which influence politics, then extending itself into issues such as abortion rights. South Carolina has just passed a bill in the matter, and the supreme court has placed the bill on hold. Needless to say, representatives who are male and republican, are pushing the bill to ban abortions. Women do not own their own bodies in this country, as proven through such legislation. This and the fact that it is still occurring in 2021, proves that there is still a long way to go, until women can truly rep and then make decisions for themselves, truly being free.

Was about to say stuff like this but didn’t want to go in that deep

American Christians still teach women are below men

Republicans are still controlling a woman’s body in certain states

 

[WASHED KING]

All jokes aside it's pretty easy to avoid these types of women. At some point personal responsibility with who you choose to lay down with has to come into play.

 

[blastercombo]

You missed my point...

Not all (also known as Not all X) is a turn of phrase that attempts to force unnecessary "nuance" into a subject that already has nuance, either by:

1. Deflecting fully specific criticism by pretending it's actually quite unspecific (first form), or
2. Insisting that you need not be specific yourself when dishing out criticism to others (second form)

The Not all fallacy is employed in the hopes of shutting down conversation by making the opponent appear to lack all nuance.

Ok fine. If you don’t like the “not all” phrase I’ll accept that. If you reread my initial post I said the group of women in question need their own label. “ALL” isn’t the correct label imo. With all that said, still doesn’t takeaway from everything else.

 

[Present]

The problem is that women still do not have equal representation under the law. The same goes for religious institutions, those of which influence politics, then extending itself into issues such as abortion rights. South Carolina has just passed a bill in the matter, and the supreme court has placed the bill on hold. Needless to say, representatives who are male and republican, are pushing the bill to ban abortions. Women do not own their own bodies in this country, as proven through such legislation. This and the fact that it is still occurring in 2021, proves that there is still a long way to go, until women can truly rep and then make decisions for themselves, truly being free.

Yeah those anti abortion laws are CRAZY!

IJS - don't take that out on me. No excuse to try to diminish me as a human being just because some rich powerful white dude from South Carolina is trying to take away your rights. I'm on women's side when it comes to that...but they aint gonna be talking crazy to me or treating me any old kind of way just because I have a penis.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

If I don't get to blame the racist rich white man for my personal choices, thoughts, and beliefs w/o calling him my "Daddy" then how is it any less patriarchal to allow women to hide behind men and throw rocks...blaming men for women's own world views, entitlements, decisions, etc?

Correct. We can't blame the white man because we need to pull ourselves up by pur bootstraps.


Story better told by.

I know the history. You cannot seem to learn from it. You can keep throwing your sexy phrase at me all you want. But it still dont change the FACT that YOU are the one bitter about a period of time that YOU were not involved in. NOT me.

 

[tay1]

All jokes aside it's pretty easy to avoid these types of women. At some point personal responsibility with who you choose to lay down with has to come into play.

That’s a big part of brush’s entire channel is that either side doesn’t take accountability for their actions. Especially women.

 

[Present]

Correct. We can't blame the white man because we need to pull ourselves up by pur bootstraps.


Story better told by.

Kot Dayum!!!!

Buddy went all in aint he?

 

[Mark Antony]

All jokes aside it's pretty easy to avoid these types of women. At some point personal responsibility with who you choose to lay down with has to come into play.

Also people tend to go into egotistical word vomit when they have some attention on them, in the end some are more adaptable and moldable than they portray, both men and women.

 

[Present]

Ok fine. If you don’t like the “not all” phrase I’ll accept that. If you reread my initial post I said the group of women in question need their own label. “ALL” isn’t the correct label imo. With all that said, still doesn’t takeaway from everything else.

I think this fine gentleman can help...

 

[KHUFU]

Yeah those anti abortion laws are CRAZY!

IJS - don't take that out on me. No excuse to try to diminish me as a human being just because some rich powerful white dude from South Carolina is trying to take away your rights. I'm on women's side when it comes to that...but they aint gonna be talking crazy to me or treating me any old kind of way just because I have a penis.

There are some incredibly angry women out there, and I agree with their anger. As a Black man, I can’t want to see anyone oppressed. However, you’ve got to acknowledge your privilege as a man with those angry women, just like white people must acknowledge theirs while dealing with Black people. Once I learned to acknowledge my privilege, my relationship changed with all women, and they no longer treated me as the enemy.

 

[Mark Antony]

There are some incredibly angry women out there, and I agree with their anger. As a Black man, I can’t want to see anyone oppressed. However, you’ve got to acknowledge your privilege as a man with those angry women, just like white people must acknowledge theirs while dealing with Black people. Once I learned to acknowledge my privilege, my relationship changed with all women, and they no longer treated me as the enemy.

This is ultimately game but I doubt dudes are ready to absorb this.

 

[aepps20]

I hope that you are joking with this post.

I believe he was serious and I agree with him 200%.

 

[Present]

There are some incredibly angry women out there, and I agree with their anger. As a Black man, I can’t want to see anyone oppressed. However, you’ve got to acknowledge your privilege as a man with those angry women, just like white people must acknowledge theirs while dealing with Black people. Once I learned to acknowledge my privilege, my relationship changed with all women, and they no longer treated me as the enemy.

Agreed 100% and well said.

My bad.

I was focused on the ones calling into Kevin Samuels, in their late 30's, with 3 kids, from multiple men, thinking they are "10s" while claiming that anything less than a 6'5", child free, rich, successful, single man with his own business, multiple houses, and cars, is somehow beneath them.

 

[wayniac211]

...you dont think that was a good practice?

Let's look at the spending habits of your typical independent "boss lady"

Drinks a $5 coffee every morning
Has some type of weekly 3 digit splurge (Designer Shoes/Handbag, nails/hair, IKEA)
Drives either a Gas Guzzling SUVs or "Luxury" car thats less than 5 years old
Lives by herself when she couldve stayed with Mom/Dad or had roommates

Cmon bruh lol.. lotta women know how to budget better than dudes..

You got 1 strike left before you’re in the block list just on nonsense alone

Maaan.. f u and your strikes.. f is you..