Rotations have NOTHING to do with this roster.
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You can have Pop run our rotations, nothing changes grand scheme.
Rotations is a meaningless scapegoat arguing point. Period.
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Rotations have NOTHING to do with this roster.
Zero
You can have Pop run our rotations, nothing changes grand scheme.
Rotations is a meaningless scapegoat arguing point. Period.
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guys guys guys chill pop a benazepril and watch some different strokes
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Pop would be starting and playing Luol Deng significant minutes?
Pop would continue to put personnel out there that's counter productive to the playing style he wants to run?
Pop would sit the prized rookie the entire 4th qtr even though he barely played in the preseason at all and needs as many reps as possible even in a blowout?
Anyway my roommate just brought me this:
Pop would continue to put personnel out there that's counter productive to the playing style he wants to run?
Pop would sit the prized rookie the entire 4th qtr even though he barely played in the preseason at all and needs as many reps as possible even in a blowout?
Anyway my roommate just brought me this:
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pop would have deng playing like rudy gay
pop makes oatmeal out of bird ****
pop makes oatmeal out of bird ****
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We have no offensive game plan whatsoever. That was atrocious
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15 games til the civil war pops off
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I seriously want to know what the hell they were doing in training camp. I mean I know So was out but they were legit running the same booty set the entire night.
Textbook WBS steez right here.
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Luke said they were hardly doing any offense in camp. So many pull up jumpers. They didn't play as a team by any stretch. Nance looked great. Zo should've had more assists. And that's about it
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They reallly need to come out and make a statement next game. Not that it's the be all end all but they're at a point where they should be able to impose their will on a team like pheonix
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There's no statement game when their offense is to set up brook for the 3 
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This isn't a team that is going to win a lot of games this year, and I think we all should of expected that going in.
Ingram, Zo, they're going to be learning a lot as this season goes and will make a fair amount of mistakes on the way.
I rode with the D Lo trade which sounds hypocritical but I had personal feelings about intangibles which aren't really debatable because everyone feels differently about things like that. No problem with anyone that feels otherwise, though, I debated it when it happened. I honestly wouldn't be shocked if D Lo finds his way to an all-star out in BK, I just didn't think the way he approached games was conducive to winning meaningful basketball. Never called him a rat or snitch, wasn't crazy about him in college but gave him a fair chance as far as my meaningless critique goes. Pretty sure I sang his praises here after the Cleveland game, but I admit, I was a prisoner of the moment there. Honestly, I hope I'm wrong about him and he becomes a great player because I have no ill feelings towards him, but I think when it comes down to who I'd rather have as a primary ball handler, I am a big fan of Zo's approach to the game and his demeanor as opposed to D Lo and I think his upside is better. (Yes, Ball avy, I know)
Zo seemed uncomfortable as an aggressor on offense, once he missed a few he checked out from shooting. Also, he was not holding the ball for more than 2 seconds for awhile. Pat Bev was making sure he was in that *** all night. I think it's going to be a very up and down season for him, honestly kind of still wish we got Rondo just to mentor him a little because apparently the young guys in Chicago sung his praises as far as his leadership went, which was surprising to me. But, the kid has a good head on his shoulders, and honestly seems dedicated to the game more than you see most 19 year olds that come in the league these days. Dude is pretty damn mature and composed considering the circus around him too. Needs to start being more comfortable with the ball in his hands though, saw a lot of overpassing at times and while it's great that he is always looking to set someone up, he is a 6'7" PG that seemed to do a good job of finishing at the rim in college when he attacked and if he does that more it opens up more people around him.
Ingram has the ability, the body really needs to fill out though. Defensively, his footwork seemed sound and I think he can still cause problems on that end in the future too. He plays awkwardly at times on offense and it can be uncomfortable to watch But, I do think he's gonna put it together. He has a pretty good understanding of the game and while he seems checked out most the time, I think he's just one of those Klay Thompson type guys Dude can get to the rim, as ugly as it can look sometimes. Just needs to bulk up and become a better finisher. Consistency on shooting needs to come along as well. Don't think he will be Giannis but I think his progression to be similar to his/Hayward's still.
I'd like to see a little more variation in the offensive sets though, things seemed very stagnant more often than not. Again, it's only the first game.
Some of the lineups Luke rode with confused me as well. Deng starting threw me off too. He just hasn't had starter production in years.
KCP will help the starting lineup out, but the PF position was a weird mess today. Julius has so much to potentially offer but he's just not clicking with the game mentally still. Nance plays his *** off but he has his limitations. Kuz had I think unnecessary expectations put on him by the general fanbase and while he has some upside, isn't that guy yet and needs some time. I still think he will end up a great role player but we'll see.
Didn't realize how long this was in hindsight, and I don't post in here often, but I love this team and like to chirp in every now and then.
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Ingram, Zo, they're going to be learning a lot as this season goes and will make a fair amount of mistakes on the way.
I rode with the D Lo trade which sounds hypocritical but I had personal feelings about intangibles which aren't really debatable because everyone feels differently about things like that. No problem with anyone that feels otherwise, though, I debated it when it happened. I honestly wouldn't be shocked if D Lo finds his way to an all-star out in BK, I just didn't think the way he approached games was conducive to winning meaningful basketball. Never called him a rat or snitch, wasn't crazy about him in college but gave him a fair chance as far as my meaningless critique goes. Pretty sure I sang his praises here after the Cleveland game, but I admit, I was a prisoner of the moment there. Honestly, I hope I'm wrong about him and he becomes a great player because I have no ill feelings towards him, but I think when it comes down to who I'd rather have as a primary ball handler, I am a big fan of Zo's approach to the game and his demeanor as opposed to D Lo and I think his upside is better. (Yes, Ball avy, I know)
Zo seemed uncomfortable as an aggressor on offense, once he missed a few he checked out from shooting. Also, he was not holding the ball for more than 2 seconds for awhile. Pat Bev was making sure he was in that *** all night. I think it's going to be a very up and down season for him, honestly kind of still wish we got Rondo just to mentor him a little because apparently the young guys in Chicago sung his praises as far as his leadership went, which was surprising to me. But, the kid has a good head on his shoulders, and honestly seems dedicated to the game more than you see most 19 year olds that come in the league these days. Dude is pretty damn mature and composed considering the circus around him too. Needs to start being more comfortable with the ball in his hands though, saw a lot of overpassing at times and while it's great that he is always looking to set someone up, he is a 6'7" PG that seemed to do a good job of finishing at the rim in college when he attacked and if he does that more it opens up more people around him.
Ingram has the ability, the body really needs to fill out though. Defensively, his footwork seemed sound and I think he can still cause problems on that end in the future too. He plays awkwardly at times on offense and it can be uncomfortable to watch
But, I do think he's gonna put it together. He has a pretty good understanding of the game and while he seems checked out most the time, I think he's just one of those Klay Thompson type guys Dude can get to the rim, as ugly as it can look sometimes. Just needs to bulk up and become a better finisher. Consistency on shooting needs to come along as well. Don't think he will be Giannis but I think his progression to be similar to his/Hayward's still.I'd like to see a little more variation in the offensive sets though, things seemed very stagnant more often than not. Again, it's only the first game.
Some of the lineups Luke rode with confused me as well. Deng starting threw me off too. He just hasn't had starter production in years.
KCP will help the starting lineup out, but the PF position was a weird mess today. Julius has so much to potentially offer but he's just not clicking with the game mentally still. Nance plays his *** off but he has his limitations. Kuz had I think unnecessary expectations put on him by the general fanbase and while he has some upside, isn't that guy yet and needs some time. I still think he will end up a great role player but we'll see.
Didn't realize how long this was in hindsight, and I don't post in here often, but I love this team and like to chirp in every now and then.
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Phoenix might be one of only a handful of teams we're better than on paper. If we lose this game its a bad sign.
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The fact that we're better than only a handful of teams should say enough about how prone we are to losing that game.
Also, I don't know how bad of a sign losing the second game of the season would be to anyone. One of our best teams in recent history would of probably dropped it to the Bobcats
Not comparing the two, just saying you can't dictate too much off it I think. Suns did get the worse *** beating I've seen in a long time though Wouldn't be that chipper if we lose I can't lie.
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Glaring warning signs the whole game...
1) We have no offensive scheme... so obvious.
2) Sorry to say, Ingram hasn't shown me anything for Magic to call him a go to scorer...
No go to move, no shot, no footwork, still doesn't know how to use his length... pause*
He had all summer to bulk up, still looks like Manute Bol but shorter. HE NEEDS MAMBA SESSIONS
3) Defense still sucks
4) Clarkson and Randle has hit their ceiling IMO
5) I could list 15 more things but just like them tonight, I dont feel like giving effort...
Might be in for a long season....
"Our style of play will attract free agents"... sure, if the free agents just happen to like crappy basketball
1) We have no offensive scheme... so obvious.
2) Sorry to say, Ingram hasn't shown me anything for Magic to call him a go to scorer...
No go to move, no shot, no footwork, still doesn't know how to use his length... pause*
He had all summer to bulk up, still looks like Manute Bol but shorter. HE NEEDS MAMBA SESSIONS
3) Defense still sucks
4) Clarkson and Randle has hit their ceiling IMO
5) I could list 15 more things but just like them tonight, I dont feel like giving effort...
Might be in for a long season....
"Our style of play will attract free agents"... sure, if the free agents just happen to like crappy basketball
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Are you guys really better than PHX on paper?
Bledose and Booker are both better than anyone on the roster not named Lopez and KCP isnt playin
Bledose and Booker are both better than anyone on the roster not named Lopez and KCP isnt playin
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Dudes at my job couldn’t WAIT to tell me how terrible we looked last night
Same ones who say “it’s just one game, that win meant nothing” had we won
It’s gonna be a long season
Same ones who say “it’s just one game, that win meant nothing” had we won
It’s gonna be a long season
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So tough to watch, and its going to be a very long one. All I want to see is some exciting bball here and there and some growth from the players we need to see growth in. Play was so sloppy last night, looking like HS bball out there. Some of the passing was just straight up lazy.
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We've been getting completely dragged by the clippers for about 5 years now. Always our biggest loss of the season. Like..they annihilate us. So in a sense it's good to get that out the way even tho you'd hope to see some improvement by now. It's not really reflective of what the team is capable of.. hopefully. I mean we're not that good but we're not THAT bad either
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lol
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Im off the “Luke know what he’s doing” bandwagon.
How many bad lineups and old guys playing can he have before we just put before we get a Lonzo, Ingram,Kuzma, Nance, Randle on the floor at the same time?
How many bad lineups and old guys playing can he have before we just put before we get a Lonzo, Ingram,Kuzma, Nance, Randle on the floor at the same time?
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I thought Ball played pretty good. Just looking at his passing, he had guys open all night. He hit Nance Jr with a sweet pass but of course Nance didn't shoot the wide open 10 foot jumper. Multiple wide open threes for Lopez. Of course he needs to score more but he doesn't need to when he's getting WIDE open looks for others. Plus he was rebounding well and had two blocks and a deflection. Not bad for first game against all 1st defense pg LOL
