**LA LAKERS THREAD** Sitting on 17! 2023-2024 offseason begins

He's giving Embiid the credit for 13 of those wins so you guys are only 3 wins better without him than last year so far. But as I said the roster construction is very similar to what the Lakers have all the way down to Robinson/Covington, Sergio/Huertas, and Bayless/Henderson and Deng/Mosgov.

His logic is absolutely ******ed.
 
Man you guys were the type to sniff glue in kinder right? I really don't feel like breaking this down step by step but the original premise was that the sixers without Simmons and embiid are more competitive than the current Laker team as is. Start from there and you figure out the rest. Nite nite

This guy included 25 year old black who's been inactive for weeks and tried to exclude the two youngest players
 
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guys cant we all just get along in here?

Nah



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Pre & Post All Star Break

Randle:
Pre 12.9 / 8.1 / 3.6 on .487/.250 only shot 24 3s in 50 games
Post 13.8/10.8/4.7 on .469/.263 on 19 3s in 13 games


Russell:
Pre: 14.2 / 3.8 / 4.7 on .392/.348
Post: 19.3 / 2.8 / 4.8 on .451/.389

Ingram
Pre: 8.0 / 4.1 / 1.9 on .363 / .304
Post: 13.7 / 4.2 / 2.5 on .503 / .262
 
Lol do y'all really think we suck this bad or we're trying to lose?

You guys really suck that bad. Trust me, I've been rooting for you guys to win games all year and it hasn't happened. It's not even like the Lakers have had devastating injuries throughout the season as a reason why they've sucked like this. Their entire team has been healthy for most of the season.
 
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Lol do y'all really think we suck this bad or we're trying to lose?

Both.
Getting rid of Lou and shutting down Deng\Moz was clearly pro-tank.

But then again, they weren't and aren't part of our future so what's on the court now is what we want developed anyways, and what's on the court now is pathetically awful.
 
Anthony Brown was supposed to be the 3 and defense guy to really help glue some of this together.

Like someone mentioned a few pages ago, I don't even remember him making ONE 3 during his entire tenure with us :x :lol



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Lol do y'all really think we suck this bad or we're trying to lose?

Both. Since that 10-10 start, we are now 10-41, 1-12 since actively tanking (Lou trade). Going into the season this was one of the worst 3 rosters in the league. They're pretty much right where there supposed to be. We got blown out a lot before the trade and after.
 
Can't win games with no defense
Our best defender is possibly a d-leaguer we just signed for the rest of the year
 
I can't believe we've had 3 straight lottery picks, two of them being #2 picks, and we're still this bad.
Are we just victims of bad draft classes to pick from? (Outside of KAT)
I was thinking about this the other day.  This is a byproduct of the one-and-done era.  Guys are coming out with a promise to be good in 2-3 years.  As much I would be against it as a player, I do see the reasoning to keep these players in college a little longer.  They are coming out with just a "potential" for being good and therefore getting a lottery pick doesn't really mean as much nowadays.  More of a crapshoot when drafting than ever before.
 
I was thinking about this the other day.  This is a byproduct of the one-and-done era.  Guys are coming out with a promise to be good in 2-3 years.  As much I would be against it as a player, I do see the reasoning to keep these players in college a little longer.  They are coming out with just a "potential" for being good and therefore getting a lottery pick doesn't really mean as much nowadays.  More of a crapshoot when drafting than ever before.

This. This isn't the days where guys stayed 2 to 3 years and you kinda knew who what going to be what.

The lottery now is a crap shoot. Once in a while you have guys you know will be impact players (KAT) but most of the time its a roll of the dice.
 
Yup. This isn't the 80s. You don't get a seasoned Magic or MJ who's ready to take over from day 1.

Everyone holds the Warriors as the gold standard (as they should), but nobody takes into account:

Klay & Barnes went to school for 2 years.
Curry went for 3 years.
Dray went for 4 years.

And the Warriors were still trash and struggled in the beginning. If it took 2-3 years for that group to get it going, you shouldn't expect a team full of 1 & dones to compete right away. It takes a lot of patience. A lot of ugly basketball.
 
Which is why the terrible play doesn't bother me sometimes but I can't watch it all the time. I had to turn the game off yesterday.

I think the kids will be fine.

I'm for making moves if they make sense, but only if they make sense.
 
 
I was thinking about this the other day.  This is a byproduct of the one-and-done era.  Guys are coming out with a promise to be good in 2-3 years.  As much I would be against it as a player, I do see the reasoning to keep these players in college a little longer.  They are coming out with just a "potential" for being good and therefore getting a lottery pick doesn't really mean as much nowadays.  More of a crapshoot when drafting than ever before.
Lol you think there isn't a "potential" aspect of staying in school too? Kris Dunn and buddy heild say hi.
 

Makes no real difference tbh whether a kid stays in school past one year or not. In fact, I'd argue that the longer a kid stays in school, the more likely he's an average NBA prospect.

You really don't want guys who've stayed in college 3 or 4 years as the focal point of your rebuild.
 
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I was thinking about this the other day.  This is a byproduct of the one-and-done era.  Guys are coming out with a promise to be good in 2-3 years.  As much I would be against it as a player, I do see the reasoning to keep these players in college a little longer.  They are coming out with just a "potential" for being good and therefore getting a lottery pick doesn't really mean as much nowadays.  More of a crapshoot when drafting than ever before.


Lol you think there isn't a "potential" aspect of staying in school too? Kris Dunn and buddy heild say hi.

 
Makes no real difference tbh whether a kid stays in school past one year or not. In fact, I'd argue that the longer a kid stays in school, the more likely he's an average NBA prospect.

You really don't want guys who've stayed in college 3 or 4 years as the focal point of your rebuild.


This. Ain't that many 3 year college future NBA superstars. Potential superstars are not staying for 3 years getting pimped.


Very few people saw this coming from Steph. Which is why he doesn't held to the same standard as other superstars. He was the "underdog" "regular man" story.
 
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Yup. This isn't the 80s. You don't get a seasoned Magic or MJ who's ready to take over from day 1.

Everyone holds the Warriors as the gold standard (as they should), but nobody takes into account:

Klay & Barnes went to school for 2 years.
Curry went for 3 years.
Dray went for 4 years.

And the Warriors were still trash and struggled in the beginning. If it took 2-3 years for that group to get it going, you shouldn't expect a team full of 1 & dones to compete right away. It takes a lot of patience. A lot of ugly basketball.
 
I understand wanting hope but the Warriors were 47-35 in Draymond's rookie year, 51-31 in his second year then won the championship in his third year. The Warriors bad year came the year before Draymond's rookie year when Klay was a rookie and Curry only played 20 games because of ankle problems. Not a good comparison in any form to this current Laker squad.
 
The Lakers are only in year 1 or 2 of the true rebuild (I don't count last year's Kobe farewell tour as a rebuilding season... more like a **** show). Next year is year 2 or 3 depending on how you look at it.

I agree it's different, mainly because the Warriors had good pieces that the Lakers don't have. They traded monta for bogut and that really set it off (let Curry shine & Bogut was huge for them). Lakers literally have nothing on the team besides young players.

Also different cuz the warriors weren't built with 1 & Dones. Their players were more ready to compete in the NBA than any of our players coming out were.

The dubs never had 19 year olds getting significant minutes. This is gunna take way longer than it took in GS (if they see it through). Will our players be as good as GS's players? Probably not. But it's still the best team building model of this era.
 
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Just got my tickets for the game Friday.

Section 110 Row 1. Found a steal on the ticket exchange. Can't wait.
 
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