**LA LAKERS THREAD** Sitting on 17! 2023-2024 offseason begins

[CP1708]

James Harden the SG, or the PG?

You guys in love with these labels, I guess when Ingram was running some of the O early in the year, he was the PG too?

LeBron a Center to you guys when they play small ball?


The NBA damn near positionless now. Obviously you have guys that can slide between the 2-3, or 4-5, or even 1-3, etc. But sayin DLo is a SG, and a SG only is pretty comical. He's the guy that sets up and runs the O. Line him up at Power Forward, I don't care, he runs the Offense. He is the distributor. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 12 whatever.

Book had more 30 point games his rookie than Kawhi had his entire career before this season.

So, Booker havin more 30 point games than a defensive first player makes him an elite scorer? I'm readin this right here?

Zubac got more 20 point games than Mutumbo, gotta be HOF right there. Ingram got more 20 point games than Bruce Bowen

I get it, Book can score, no doubt from me. But elite? 70 got you guys excited.

 

[mosk33toe]

D'Lo best suited as a playmaking 2. He's a jack of all trades but a master of none, unless his jump shot reaches elite levels.

It's an okay problem to have, you either find a point guard in this draft and have him off the ball spot up shooter and cutter, or you slide him into the 1 at time and have him run the offense.

We won't truly know how good this will play out until either the young guys step up and live up to their potential (ie: Ingram, Randle, Clarkson, Zu) or we get a All-Star like PG here and see how it works.

Either way, lets just hope we get this pick, because i've been cheering for Laker losses and I want to shower after every game for doing so.

 

[Lizakers]

Yes, I watch wtih a blindfold

What we DO know for a fact is the coaches that see him everyday in shoot arounds, games and practice, decided they want to move im off the ball.

And, no, Booker is not Kobe. I'm just saying he has the potential to put up Kobe-type numbers and he's the reason PHX is regarded as having a better future than us. They have a player that everyone regards as a sure-fire superstar (everyone other than Dlo stans in this thread)

But but PER bruh
But but assists bruh

smh

 

[CP1708]

Getting assists is not the same as running an offense. He can get 5 assists as a SG

I don't wanna play games here, I'm truly tryna know, you think, DLo doesn't run the O, right now? He's just "getting assists" but he doesn't run the offense? Is this your true, honest belief, or you just havin some fun on a Friday? Shoot me straight.

 

[Lizakers]

I don't wanna play games here, I'm truly tryna know, you think, DLo doesn't run the O, right now? He's just "getting assists" but he doesn't run the offense? Is this your true, honest belief, or you just havin some fun on a Friday? Shoot me straight.

there are possessions where he does and many possessions where he gives the ball to JC and just slow motion jogs around the perimeter or stands in the corner. He's like a hybrid right now kinda
I'm saying if he had elite PG potential/ability, this experiment wouldn't be happening.

 

[MVP]

Everybody else sees it in Book but y'all. Also everyone else doesn't see what y'all see in D'Lo as well. [emoji]129300[/emoji]

 

[Lizakers]

We're just self loathing Laker fans though, right?

Meanwhile we bout to draft his replacement at PG 2 years after he was drafted to be "our best PG since Magic"

 

[tonelow]

I love Booker, but I don't see him averaging 30 5 and 5 

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We're just self loathing Laker fans though, right?

Meanwhile we bout to draft his replacement at PG 2 years after he was drafted to be "our best PG since Magic"

Well seeing that the two best prospects are PGs, it makes sense to see if he can play the 2 alongside one of them, no?

Also, this whole point guard thing is overblown anyway. Is Kyrie really the pg? Is Steph? You want to have a bunch of guys that can pass, dribble and shoot. Theoretically Ball/Fultz, Dlo and Ingram will all share ball handling responsibilities and be able to play off ball. That would be an amazing core going forward.

I think it looks bad now because Clarkson has really regressed as a passer and playmaker. 

 

[MVP]

30/5/5 is a bit much.

See no reason he won't be at 25/5/4 though. That's about at Bean's career averages.

Something I found interesting just now:

Clarkson apg post ASG: 4.1
Russell apg post ASG:
5.0

 

[tonelow]

30/5/5 is a bit much.

See no reason he won't be at 25/5/4 though. That's about at Bean's career averages.

Something I found interesting just now:

Clarkson apg post ASG: 4.1
Russell apg post ASG:
5.0

Yea mid 20s, I can see that.

Clarkson can get to the cup and he's good at dishing to bigs once he penetrates, but man he's so bad at making simple reads especially in the PnR. Which is pretty much the exact opposite of Dlo.

If only we could combine JC and Dlo, then combine Nance and Julius.

 

[Lizakers]

I love Booker, but I don't see him averaging 30 5 and 5  . 

Well seeing that the two best prospects are PGs, it makes sense to see if he can play the 2 alongside one of them, no?

Also, this whole point guard thing is overblown anyway. Is Kyrie really the pg? Is Steph? You want to have a bunch of guys that can pass, dribble and shoot. Theoretically Ball/Fultz, Dlo and Ingram will all share ball handling responsibilities and be able to play off ball. That would be an amazing core going forward.

I think it looks bad now because Clarkson has really regressed as a passer and playmaker. 

You make great points. I can't disagree.
I just worry about perimeter defense if Dlo is going to be asked to defend elite guards and still have energy to give us 20+ ppg as a SG, he's shown us a low "motor" this season getting tired and mailing in games and such

 

[denni5themenace]

the fact of the matter is, as long as DLo gets as many assists as he has shot attempts, he'll be fine.

 

[tonelow]

 

I love Booker, but I don't see him averaging 30 5 and 5 

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Well seeing that the two best prospects are PGs, it makes sense to see if he can play the 2 alongside one of them, no?

Also, this whole point guard thing is overblown anyway. Is Kyrie really the pg? Is Steph? You want to have a bunch of guys that can pass, dribble and shoot. Theoretically Ball/Fultz, Dlo and Ingram will all share ball handling responsibilities and be able to play off ball. That would be an amazing core going forward.

I think it looks bad now because Clarkson has really regressed as a passer and playmaker. 

You make great points. I can't disagree.
I just worry about perimeter defense if Dlo is going to be asked to defend elite guards and still have energy to give us 20+ ppg as a SG, he's shown us a low "motor" this season getting tired and mailing in games and such

Yea the defense could be a problem, but that's also something that you worry about a little later. Not saying it's not important but getting talent and then figuring out how they fit should be the focus.

I personally feel like Nwaba should be starting now and we will need him or a similar player in the starting lineup once we are really competing.

 

[moonman818]

Booker may very well end up averaging 30+, 5 boards (he's 6'6 after all) and 5 assists in 2-3 years. That's kobe level

Dude is literally nothing but a scorer and y'all comparing him to da god after 2 years.

 

[CP1708]

I don't wanna play games here, I'm truly tryna know, you think, DLo doesn't run the O, right now? He's just "getting assists" but he doesn't run the offense? Is this your true, honest belief, or you just havin some fun on a Friday? Shoot me straight.

there are possessions where he does and many possessions where he gives the ball to JC and just slow motion jogs around the perimeter or stands in the corner. He's like a hybrid right now kinda
I'm saying if he had elite PG potential/ability, this experiment wouldn't be happening.

I can get behind hybrid, I wouldn't argue with that.
This "elite PG potential" thing you're saying, that is just flat out wrong. Luke is tanking, and during that, he is seeing what Clarkson can do, what DLo can do, what Randle can do, who is affected by what, and how. For instance, does Clarkson and Randle click real well? Or does Zubac play off DLo at the 2? Or do they both play well off each other? Does DLo as an outlet shooter work better for Clarkson than Clarkson an outlet shooter for DLo, etc. Luke is doing exactly what he should be doing, you guys are so hard to read between the lines and decide DLo's entire future is being etched in stone because of this month stretch outside the starting "PG" spot.

And you're worried about DLo's defense, but Booker is going to be Kobe.........no worry about defense there........hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Everybody else sees it in Book but y'all. Also everyone else doesn't see what y'all see in D'Lo as well. [emoji]129300[/emoji]

We're just self loathing Laker fans though, right?

Meanwhile we bout to draft his replacement at PG 2 years after he was drafted to be "our best PG since Magic"

His replacement. So, the Blazers drafted Lillard's replacement when they took CJ, right? Or, if we draft Josh Jackson, are we drafting Ingram's replacement?

30/5/5 is a bit much.

See no reason he won't be at 25/5/4 though. That's about at Bean's career averages.

Something I found interesting just now:

Clarkson apg post ASG: 4.1
Russell apg post ASG:
5.0

Any way you could give me the number of assists DLo "should" have when his player miss bunnies or get fouled, etc? Or are you going to pretend that's not a thing?

the fact of the matter is, as long as DLo gets as many assists as he has shot attempts, he'll be fine.

This post right here, Gold.

 

[MVP]

Dude is literally nothing but a scorer and y'all comparing him to da god after 2 years.

D'Book at age 20- 22/3/3 in 35 minutes

Kobe at age 20- 20/5/4 in 38 minutes

He's not that far off, and he has the tools to be a good defender. Not saying he's going to be Kobe. 

 

[CP1708]

Dude is literally nothing but a scorer and y'all comparing him to da god after 2 years.

D'Book at age 20- 22/3/3 in 35 minutes
Kobe at age 20- 20/5/4 in 38 minutes

He's not that far off, and he has the tools to be a good defender. Not saying he's going to be Kobe. 

Well this just got interesting.....

So, when we post DLo comparisons to other great PG's at the same stages of career, you was throwin a fit.

But now........this is ok?

 

[MVP]

Well this just got interesting.....

So, when we post DLo comparisons to other great PG's at the same stages of career, you was throwin a fit.

But now........this is ok?

I don't see per 36. Or not exclusively leaning on stats so yea this is ok. Book has already gotten the Bean cosign as well. 

 

[moonman818]

Dude is literally nothing but a scorer and y'all comparing him to da god after 2 years.

D'Book at age 20- 22/3/3 in 35 minutes
Kobe at age 20- 20/5/4 in 38 minutes

He's not that far off, and he has the tools to be a good defender. Not saying he's going to be Kobe. 

Like those stupid *** simple numbers mean anything

What was MJ averaging at 20?


I'm honestly flabbergasted at the love Devin Booker is getting in here.

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

Was Kobe a number one option whose coach force fed him and enabled him to pad his stats at age 20?

 

[MVP]

Like those stupid *** simple numbers mean anything

What was MJ averaging at 20?


I'm honestly flabbergasted at the love Devin Booker is getting in here.

MJ was still at UNC at 20. 

Again I'm not saying Booker is going to be Kobe. I call him Beige Mamba jokingly. But kid has the same frame, same height, and just is a natural scorer like Bean was, maybe even more so at his age. 

And I'm wondering are y'all mad that everybody seems to be giving him love and not D'Lo even though the stats suggest one is a better player. Not everything can be determined by a spreadsheet. 

 

[moonman818]

Like those stupid *** simple numbers mean anything


What was MJ averaging at 20?



I'm honestly flabbergasted at the love Devin Booker is getting in here.

MJ was still at UNC at 20. 

Again I'm not saying Booker is going to be Kobe. I call him Beige Mamba jokingly. But kid has the same frame, same height, and just is a natural scorer like Bean was, maybe even more so at his age. 

It's a bad comparison because he literally does nothing as well as Kobe except put the ball in the basket. And I don't believe he does that anywhere near as well Kobe either... they were brought up with two completely different roles.

Also I love how you're the first to throw out numbers when guys compare D Lo favorably to other players, but proceed to say he's "Kobe level" because of a simple ppg

Got a thing for them light skinneded boys huh [emoji]128527[/emoji]

 

[MVP]

It's a bad comparison because he literally does nothing as well as Kobe except put the ball in the basket. And I don't believe he does that anywhere near as well Kobe either... they were brought up with two completely different roles.

Also I love how you're the first to throw out numbers when guys compare D Lo favorably to other players, but proceed to say he's "Kobe level" because of a simple ppg

Got a thing for them light skinneded boys huh [emoji]128527[/emoji]

Start all over.

 

[moonman818]

It's a bad comparison because he literally does nothing as well as Kobe except put the ball in the basket. And I don't believe he does that anywhere near as well Kobe either... they were brought up with two completely different roles.


Also I love how you're the first to throw out numbers when guys compare D Lo favorably to other players, but proceed to say he's "Kobe level" because of a simple ppg


Got a thing for them light skinneded boys huh [emoji]128527[/emoji]

Start all over.

Thanks for the laugh this morning.

Plz start a Phoenix Suns thread

 

[lovehateself]

at Whiplash just dive bombing into NBA thread with his nonsense

Had to go look for this
He really went in there with his pastor rap throwing **** at the wall

While booker will only get better as a scorer
Will the suns run an offense around him with all the young pieces around him, what if they actually sign someone else?