**LA LAKERS THREAD** Sitting on 17! 2023-2024 offseason begins

[pmatic]

Team was more than talented enough to be a 50+ win, top four seed team as evident of the last two months of play.

 

[Brosizzlew30.23]

Damn, AD must have got

Mainly because HAM was toiling with the lineups up until the all star break and guys were frustrated of their revolving/lack of role.

AR and D'Lo (our best guards) were both BENCHED only to bring them back to the starting lineup?

What kinda **** is that?

RUI been in an out, had DNP's but he's easily one of the best players on the roster...how you think he feels?

HAM just not great a building a COHESIVE CULTURE

I feel like that was Franks thing, focusing on morale/team building rather than X's and O's

You can tell too in 2020 them boys was having FUN

Honest and reliable take!

 

[Brosizzlew30.23]

Team was more than talented enough to be a 50+ win, top four seed team as evident of the last two months of play.

The MAIN reason they’re not is because of Bum and Dumber

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

Ham one of the worst Laker coaches ever . Real Byron-esque. Hella frustrating the way he was leaning on Prince and Cam half the season. People will stick to their guns and repeat the same takes but he clearly held the team back. Ham even said in the beginning of the year that Prince was only starting because Vando was hurt, saw Rui dominate his role in the playoffs and still took all season to start him. When he finally started him in Jan/Feb he said that would be the permanent starting lineup then Rui got hurt and it took Ham another month to start him again

 

[pmatic]

LFR pod slowly losing their minds. IDK how they do it while being Laker employees.

 

[darthska]

🗣🗣🗣🗣

Firing him wouldn't do anything

Firing him wouldn't do anything

#this

Firing him wouldn't do anything

That part!

Firing him wouldn't do anything

Something, something, people in the back

 

[darthska]

People are so stuck in 1-way thinking.
- 'This ONE THING is the problem!'
- 'Solving that one thing wouldn't solve everything.'
- 'Stay in denial. Keep pretending the 1 thing I insist you acknowledge isn't a problem. '

2 things can be true.
2 things are true.

 

[lovehateself]

bring back Frankie V

 

[essential1]

There’s gotta be at least 5 games in.

-Drafting a project and not a more NBA ready prospect. Or not trading the pick for a role player. A Roster spot that they could have used to have even a small impact on would have been nice.
-Vando’s injuries
-Gabe’s injuries and then being awful whenever he’s played.
-Not figuring out what they wanted to do at the backup Center spot.
-Benching AR for Cam
-Benching Rui for TP
-Benching DLo and leaving AR on the bench too when Ham said he moved AR to separate him and DLo
-Benching Max for Cam and then Gabe when Max is a pretty prototypical player for the role they need. And a ton of reps would have come in handy by March/April
-Relying on TP to be almost entirely what he’s not.
-That horrific December starting lineup where everyone knew it sucked. And Ham went with it for multiple games.
-The players (all of them) collectively being **** after the IST for about a month one way or another
-Not having a solution for Sabonis (there isn’t a true solution for Jokic, but there should be for Sabonis).
-AD’s eyes.
-Wood’s injury.
-Not being real about the bench for the trade deadline. Whether it was getting a backup Big or a wing.

And that’s before you get to specific individual games from DLo, AR, Bron & AD.

 

[grittyman]

I hope that list isn’t in order lol

 

[essential1]

I hope that list isn’t in order lol

Chronological for the most part.

 

[darthska]

There’s gotta be at least 5 games in.

-Drafting a project and not a more NBA ready prospect. Or not trading the pick for a role player. A Roster spot that they could have used to have even a small impact on would have been nice.
-Vando’s injuries
-Gabe’s injuries and then being awful whenever he’s played.
-Not figuring out what they wanted to do at the backup Center spot.
-Benching AR for Cam
-Benching Rui for TP
-Benching DLo and leaving AR on the bench too when Ham said he moved AR to separate him and DLo
-Benching Max for Cam and then Gabe when Max is a pretty prototypical player for the role they need. And a ton of reps would have come in handy by March/April
-Relying on TP to be almost entirely what he’s not.
-That horrific December starting lineup where everyone knew it sucked. And Ham went with it for multiple games.
-The players (all of them) collectively being **** after the IST for about a month one way or another
-Not having a solution for Sabonis (there isn’t a true solution for Jokic, but there should be for Sabonis).
-AD’s eyes.
-Wood’s injury.
-Not being real about the bench for the trade deadline. Whether it was getting a backup Big or a wing.

And that’s before you get to specific individual games from DLo, AR, Bron & AD.

15 items.
6 of them fall squarely on HiP Ham.
"It's all Coach!" relies on math that ain't mathin'.

 

[tupac003]

There are a ton of reasons why we underachieved.

Firing Ham isn't going to fix the majority of those reasons.

Neither is playing 2 bigs. Thanks God I don't have to see post after post of that nonsense.

 

[BRONBROW2020]

Draymond shot out of his mind last night, but isn't he like a 40% three point shooter this season lol.

the real clown lmao

 

[cedric ceballos]

They can fire Darvin Ham and he’ll likely be the fall guy since that’s the nature of the game.

But ever since Phil left in 2011 they’ve had 6 different head coaches. None of them have lasted more than 3 seasons. Even if/when they fire Ham, the odds are they’ll be right back in this same position looking for a new head coach in 2-3 years tops.

 

[Brosizzlew30.23]

Can’t wait til this season is over and they get a new head coach so people can wake up and see what the real problem was.

And yeah, Jaxson Hayes will be on the roster next year and so will Rui and Vando and probably AR too

And watch how much better they will be next season with a new head coach and essentially the same core next year.

Just watch. We’ll see what the real cause of the Lakers’ problems was

But I’m sure all the smart guys will continue with their smart takes

 

[essential1]

OKC starting lineup +9.8
MIN starting lineup +9.1

 

[Brosizzlew30.23]

Yeah man, Darvin was never the MAIN problem

Tell me this guy is full of it lmao

 

[Brosizzlew30.23]

OKC starting lineup +9.8
MIN starting lineup +9.1

Yeah but…….

according to certain folks in here Ham was only a small part of the problem and getting rid of him for a better coach ain’t changing a damn thing LOL

Talk about shortsightedness thinking lol

 

[Brosizzlew30.23]

Yeah man, Darvin is NOT the problem and firing him won’t change a gotdamn thing

 

[Brosizzlew30.23]

Let’s take a look at Darvin’s coaching EXPERTISE shall we


This dude can’t even get his own players to FOCUS and EXECUTE like PROFESSIONALS do in real life because HAM CANNOT COACH!!!!

Dude does not have the brain, the savvy, and the basketball mind to analyze film and coach his guys to make the proper adjustments. Period.

#Coaching

 

[atlsfinest]

 

[darthska]

Aaaaah, so if you say that ONE THING is the problem and someone agrees that that one thing is a problem but also ACKNOWLEDGES that there are also other problems, you're doing the thing where you interpret that as them saying that the one thing you say is a problem is NOT a problem at all.

It's not that the guy you posted is full of it: it's that you are.

I'm tempted to come up with a bet that will show it to everyone else (I can't say "That will show it to you", because I can already tell that you're a 'Never lost' type who never 'accepts' error.) Needs to be a bet free from all qualifiers, because I know how you rock.

 

[tupac003]

Any insight on why?

They expect us to be worse next year or would this affect us having the reported 3 FRP's for whatever "star" we trade for...smh

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

Next year's draft is better. Either way Lakers would have 3 picks to trade